God AND the Big Bang

[Flame Dragon]

C'mon' date=' you know these Bible-pushers as well as I do.

 

"uhh, mayb der is 1 god dat rules over da hole univers n he rules over udda life n stuf nevr thought bout dat did u?"

[/quote']

 

Most Christians believe that humans, since we are God's most precious creations, that there would be no other intelligent life forms in the universe.

 

Yet another example of a religious person ignoring statistics and going with what a non-proven book says. Wonderful.

 

Nothing can be 100% proven. Have you not even read the other posts in this thread? I would rather you not mock my religion.

 

Our beliefs are nothing more than a joke to those who disagree, but we can do nothing but hold our faith, and move along. You and I both know this is nothing more than a test, to see how strong our faith truly is. We cannot show everyone otherwise, so let it be.

 

You're right. It's pointless to argue over religion with other people.

It's funny that Christians can't post in religious threads without getting flamed. ^_^

Oh well, c'est la vie!

 

That's because Atheists get flamed IRL. The internet makes up for that.

 

And guys, I wasn't advocating the Big Bang. I was merely stating that believing in the Big Bang and God is counter-productive along with being a huge contradiction.

How is it a huge contradiction. At some point you need to think "What caused the big bang" You say the singularity, so how did that come to be. You go with String theory (at least I think it's called string theory) and say the contact of two other universes created this one. Ok, where did the first universe come from, and how did a second come about if two are needed to make more. You reach a point when you need to accept that SOMETHING has always been. Thinking that a god caused it is just as logical as saying energy has always been.

 

But how do you exist without being created? And how' date=' assuming a God exists, was he created?

 

Then there must have been a God above him. Surely that's it!

 

But that God needed to be created.

 

B-b-b-but God has infinite power.

 

He cannot create himself.

[/quote']

Read above. What cause the big bang, and what caused that event to happen. you reach a point when you need to think that SOMETHING has always been.

[Willieh]

C'mon' date=' you know these Bible-pushers as well as I do.

 

"uhh, mayb der is 1 god dat rules over da hole univers n he rules over udda life n stuf nevr thought bout dat did u?"

[/quote']

 

Most Christians believe that humans, since we are God's most precious creations, that there would be no other intelligent life forms in the universe.

 

Yet another example of a religious person ignoring statistics and going with what a non-proven book says. Wonderful.

 

Nothing can be 100% proven. Have you not even read the other posts in this thread? I would rather you not mock my religion.

 

Our beliefs are nothing more than a joke to those who disagree, but we can do nothing but hold our faith, and move along. You and I both know this is nothing more than a test, to see how strong our faith truly is. We cannot show everyone otherwise, so let it be.

 

You're right. It's pointless to argue over religion with other people.

It's funny that Christians can't post in religious threads without getting flamed. ^_^

Oh well, c'est la vie!

 

That's because Atheists get flamed IRL. The internet makes up for that.

 

And guys, I wasn't advocating the Big Bang. I was merely stating that believing in the Big Bang and God is counter-productive along with being a huge contradiction.

How is it a huge contradiction. At some point you need to think "What caused the big bang" You say the singularity, so how did that come to be. You go with String theory (at least I think it's called string theory) and say the contact of two other universes created this one. Ok, where did the first universe come from, and how did a second come about if two are needed to make more. You reach a point when you need to accept that SOMETHING has always been. Thinking that a god caused it is just as logical as saying energy has always been.

 

I'll start off by saying that, IMO, the Universe itself has always existed, and people just over-analyze too much. =\

 

Now, all I'm saying is that God is an explanation for the beginning of the Universe. And the Big Bang is an explanation for the beginning of the universe. Believing in both of those is about as sensible as believing in Zeus and God, in the sense that you're believing in two totally different explanations rather than just accepting one as the truth. It's pointless to believe in both is all I'm saying.

[The Dark One]

C'mon' date=' you know these Bible-pushers as well as I do.

 

"uhh, mayb der is 1 god dat rules over da hole univers n he rules over udda life n stuf nevr thought bout dat did u?"

[/quote']

 

Most Christians believe that humans, since we are God's most precious creations, that there would be no other intelligent life forms in the universe.

 

Yet another example of a religious person ignoring statistics and going with what a non-proven book says. Wonderful.

 

Nothing can be 100% proven. Have you not even read the other posts in this thread? I would rather you not mock my religion.

 

Our beliefs are nothing more than a joke to those who disagree, but we can do nothing but hold our faith, and move along. You and I both know this is nothing more than a test, to see how strong our faith truly is. We cannot show everyone otherwise, so let it be.

 

You're right. It's pointless to argue over religion with other people.

It's funny that Christians can't post in religious threads without getting flamed. ^_^

Oh well, c'est la vie!

 

That's because Atheists get flamed IRL. The internet makes up for that.

 

And guys, I wasn't advocating the Big Bang. I was merely stating that believing in the Big Bang and God is counter-productive along with being a huge contradiction.

How is it a huge contradiction. At some point you need to think "What caused the big bang" You say the singularity, so how did that come to be. You go with String theory (at least I think it's called string theory) and say the contact of two other universes created this one. Ok, where did the first universe come from, and how did a second come about if two are needed to make more. You reach a point when you need to accept that SOMETHING has always been. Thinking that a god caused it is just as logical as saying energy has always been.

 

But how do you exist without being created? And how' date=' assuming a God exists, was he created?

 

Then there must have been a God above him. Surely that's it!

 

But that God needed to be created.

 

B-b-b-but God has infinite power.

 

He cannot create himself.

[/quote']

Read above. What cause the big bang, and what caused that event to happen. you reach a point when you need to think that SOMETHING has always been.

 

No you don't. This was the point I was making before. There is nothing wrong with infinite regression.

[Flame Dragon]

C'mon' date=' you know these Bible-pushers as well as I do.

 

"uhh, mayb der is 1 god dat rules over da hole univers n he rules over udda life n stuf nevr thought bout dat did u?"

[/quote']

 

Most Christians believe that humans, since we are God's most precious creations, that there would be no other intelligent life forms in the universe.

 

Yet another example of a religious person ignoring statistics and going with what a non-proven book says. Wonderful.

 

Nothing can be 100% proven. Have you not even read the other posts in this thread? I would rather you not mock my religion.

 

Our beliefs are nothing more than a joke to those who disagree, but we can do nothing but hold our faith, and move along. You and I both know this is nothing more than a test, to see how strong our faith truly is. We cannot show everyone otherwise, so let it be.

 

You're right. It's pointless to argue over religion with other people.

It's funny that Christians can't post in religious threads without getting flamed. ^_^

Oh well, c'est la vie!

 

That's because Atheists get flamed IRL. The internet makes up for that.

 

And guys, I wasn't advocating the Big Bang. I was merely stating that believing in the Big Bang and God is counter-productive along with being a huge contradiction.

How is it a huge contradiction. At some point you need to think "What caused the big bang" You say the singularity, so how did that come to be. You go with String theory (at least I think it's called string theory) and say the contact of two other universes created this one. Ok, where did the first universe come from, and how did a second come about if two are needed to make more. You reach a point when you need to accept that SOMETHING has always been. Thinking that a god caused it is just as logical as saying energy has always been.

 

But how do you exist without being created? And how' date=' assuming a God exists, was he created?

 

Then there must have been a God above him. Surely that's it!

 

But that God needed to be created.

 

B-b-b-but God has infinite power.

 

He cannot create himself.

[/quote']

Read above. What cause the big bang, and what caused that event to happen. you reach a point when you need to think that SOMETHING has always been.

 

No you don't. This was the point I was making before. There is nothing wrong with infinite regression.

If I understand infinite regression correctly it's that it is impossible to find the answer because the solution will need to same answer. Yea, that is an answer, that you can never find the answer, but it's human nature to try to find answers.

[Dark]

Flame Dragon, by reading your post (albeit in a hasty manner), are you saying that God has and will exist forever?

 

Again, back to my statement.

 

The big bang has a hole in it. How was the first atom or ion or proton or whatever created?

 

The same can be applied to God. How was God created?

 

The fact that God has infinite power does not suffice as an answer to how he came to be.

[Flame Dragon]

Flame Dragon' date=' by reading your post (albeit in a hasty manner), are you saying that God has and will exist forever?

 

Again, back to my statement.

 

The big bang has a hole in it. How was the first atom or ion or proton or whatever created?

 

The same can be applied to God. How was God created?

 

The fact that God has infinite power does not suffice as an answer to how he came to be.

[/quote']

When did I say anything about god existing. Yea, i know that I've said I believe in god before, but I never said anything about that now. I was pointing out that if you don't believe in god you a) believe energy has always been, or b) simply believe that their is no answer and if it's 1, like I think you believe in, your belief has the same problem as god.

 

Also, if their is a god, you simply believe that he has always been, much like those that believe in a, the fact that energy also existed.

[The Dark One]

C'mon' date=' you know these Bible-pushers as well as I do.

 

"uhh, mayb der is 1 god dat rules over da hole univers n he rules over udda life n stuf nevr thought bout dat did u?"

[/quote']

 

Most Christians believe that humans, since we are God's most precious creations, that there would be no other intelligent life forms in the universe.

 

Yet another example of a religious person ignoring statistics and going with what a non-proven book says. Wonderful.

 

Nothing can be 100% proven. Have you not even read the other posts in this thread? I would rather you not mock my religion.

 

Our beliefs are nothing more than a joke to those who disagree, but we can do nothing but hold our faith, and move along. You and I both know this is nothing more than a test, to see how strong our faith truly is. We cannot show everyone otherwise, so let it be.

 

You're right. It's pointless to argue over religion with other people.

It's funny that Christians can't post in religious threads without getting flamed. ^_^

Oh well, c'est la vie!

 

That's because Atheists get flamed IRL. The internet makes up for that.

 

And guys, I wasn't advocating the Big Bang. I was merely stating that believing in the Big Bang and God is counter-productive along with being a huge contradiction.

How is it a huge contradiction. At some point you need to think "What caused the big bang" You say the singularity, so how did that come to be. You go with String theory (at least I think it's called string theory) and say the contact of two other universes created this one. Ok, where did the first universe come from, and how did a second come about if two are needed to make more. You reach a point when you need to accept that SOMETHING has always been. Thinking that a god caused it is just as logical as saying energy has always been.

 

But how do you exist without being created? And how' date=' assuming a God exists, was he created?

 

Then there must have been a God above him. Surely that's it!

 

But that God needed to be created.

 

B-b-b-but God has infinite power.

 

He cannot create himself.

[/quote']

Read above. What cause the big bang, and what caused that event to happen. you reach a point when you need to think that SOMETHING has always been.

 

No you don't. This was the point I was making before. There is nothing wrong with infinite regression.

If I understand infinite regression correctly it's that it is impossible to find the answer because the solution will need to same answer. Yea, that is an answer, that you can never find the answer, but it's human nature to try to find answers.

Infinite regression is simply the concept that there is an infinite number of preceding steps.

 

There wasn't any one thing that has no beginning. The farther back you look, the more you'll find.

 

As for the Big Bang, I believe that current theorists surmise it to be most likely that it was caused by the collapse of a previous universe. (Something about dark matter overpowering dark energy and reversing its expansion.) How was that universe formed? Presumably by the collapse of a previous universe. And so on and so on. There doesn't necessarily have to a be a first step.

[Dark]

Flame Dragon' date=' by reading your post (albeit in a hasty manner), are you saying that God has and will exist forever?

 

Again, back to my statement.

 

The big bang has a hole in it. How was the first atom or ion or proton or whatever created?

 

The same can be applied to God. How was God created?

 

The fact that God has infinite power does not suffice as an answer to how he came to be.

[/quote']

When did I say anything about god existing. Yea, i know that I've said I believe in god before, but I never said anything about that now. I was pointing out that if you don't believe in god you a) believe energy has always been, or b) simply believe that their is no answer and if it's 1, like I think you believe in, your belief has the same problem as god.

 

Also, if their is a god, you simply believe that he has always been, much like those that believe in a, the fact that energy also existed.

 

It's technically impossible to be the first thing to exist, because something must have created that thing, but something must have created that thing to create that thing, and etc.

 

I think there is no answer, but however, I think it's irrational to believe in a supreme being.

[Flame Dragon]

Flame Dragon' date=' by reading your post (albeit in a hasty manner), are you saying that God has and will exist forever?

 

Again, back to my statement.

 

The big bang has a hole in it. How was the first atom or ion or proton or whatever created?

 

The same can be applied to God. How was God created?

 

The fact that God has infinite power does not suffice as an answer to how he came to be.

[/quote']

When did I say anything about god existing. Yea, i know that I've said I believe in god before, but I never said anything about that now. I was pointing out that if you don't believe in god you a) believe energy has always been, or b) simply believe that their is no answer and if it's 1, like I think you believe in, your belief has the same problem as god.

 

Also, if their is a god, you simply believe that he has always been, much like those that believe in a, the fact that energy also existed.

 

It's technically impossible to be the first thing to exist, because something must have created that thing, but something must have created that thing to create that thing, and etc.

 

I think there is no answer, but however, I think it's irrational to believe in a supreme being.

I'm not going to get into if their is an answer or not since this is going into things I know very little about an I won't be able to debate it that well.

 

It is irrational to believe in god, but even so it's nice to think their is something more to life, even if it's a lie. Plus under my thinking it's just as rational an idea to believe as to think energy has always been since I think their is an answer because to me everything can be answered.

[Mehmani]

There is absolutely no chance of there ever being a divine creature or deity. There is no solid rock evidence, and believing that a deity created the universe is just childish.

[Flame Dragon]

There is absolutely no chance of there ever being a divine creature or deity. There is no solid rock evidence' date=' and believing that a deity created the universe is just childish.

[/quote']

In life you won't always be able to have solid rock evidence, and while there is no way to prove their is a god, their is no way to disprove it, so no matter how small the odds, their could be a god. Also if you don't believe a god created the universe, what do you believe? Is it that it was the big bang? That's all fine and good, but what caused that? Their is no solid rock evidence of it's cause.

[Guest JoshIcy]

There is absolutely no chance of there ever being a divine creature or deity. There is no solid rock evidence' date=' and believing that a deity created the universe is just childish.

[/quote']

 

There is no "solid rock evidence" that your consciousness is your own.

Your post defeats itself. Believing that you need solid rock evidence to know that anything is possible is just childish.

[Dark]

There is absolutely no chance of there ever being a divine creature or deity. There is no solid rock evidence' date=' and believing that a deity created the universe is just childish.

[/quote']

 

:/

 

NEVER, IN A DEBATE ABOUT RELIGION AND SCIENCE, SAY THAT THERE IS NO CHANCE. ALWAYS USE "LOW CHANCE", "IRRATIONAL", OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. BECAUSE SOLID EVIDENCE HAS NOT BEEN FOUND FOR EITHER SIDE OF THE DEBATE, IT WILL NEVER BE A "NO CHANCE" ISSUE.

 

There is obviously a chance that God exists. OBVIOUSLY. What atheists choose to believe is that there are other, more rational options for things we cannot explain, like the creation of the universe. The reason God is irrational is because there is no proof of a supreme being who can, so to speak, do everything. As stated before, there are holes in the theory of God. But you can never say God DOES NOT exist. Because you are inadvertantly saying you have proved Gods non-existance.

[Willieh]

There is absolutely no chance of there ever being a divine creature or deity. There is no solid rock evidence' date=' and believing that a deity created the universe is just childish.

[/quote']

 

:/

 

NEVER, IN A DEBATE ABOUT RELIGION AND SCIENCE, SAY THAT THERE IS NO CHANCE. ALWAYS USE "LOW CHANCE", "IRRATIONAL", OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. BECAUSE SOLID EVIDENCE HAS NOT BEEN FOUND FOR EITHER SIDE OF THE DEBATE, IT WILL NEVER BE A "NO CHANCE" ISSUE.

 

There is obviously a chance that God exists. OBVIOUSLY. What atheists choose to believe is that there are other, more rational options for things we cannot explain, like the creation of the universe. The reason God is irrational is because there is no proof of a supreme being who can, so to speak, do everything. As stated before, there are holes in the theory of God. But you can never say God DOES NOT exist. Because you are inadvertantly saying you have proved Gods non-existance.

 

God does not exist, and there is no possibility of him actually existing. Well, besides subjectively and in story books.

[Flame Dragon]

There is absolutely no chance of there ever being a divine creature or deity. There is no solid rock evidence' date=' and believing that a deity created the universe is just childish.

[/quote']

 

:/

 

NEVER, IN A DEBATE ABOUT RELIGION AND SCIENCE, SAY THAT THERE IS NO CHANCE. ALWAYS USE "LOW CHANCE", "IRRATIONAL", OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. BECAUSE SOLID EVIDENCE HAS NOT BEEN FOUND FOR EITHER SIDE OF THE DEBATE, IT WILL NEVER BE A "NO CHANCE" ISSUE.

 

There is obviously a chance that God exists. OBVIOUSLY. What atheists choose to believe is that there are other, more rational options for things we cannot explain, like the creation of the universe. The reason God is irrational is because there is no proof of a supreme being who can, so to speak, do everything. As stated before, there are holes in the theory of God. But you can never say God DOES NOT exist. Because you are inadvertantly saying you have proved Gods non-existance.

Please tell me the other options for the creation of the universe besides god and energy always being. Cause really believing engery always existed is just as irrational as to believe in a god.

[Dark]

There is absolutely no chance of there ever being a divine creature or deity. There is no solid rock evidence' date=' and believing that a deity created the universe is just childish.

[/quote']

 

:/

 

NEVER, IN A DEBATE ABOUT RELIGION AND SCIENCE, SAY THAT THERE IS NO CHANCE. ALWAYS USE "LOW CHANCE", "IRRATIONAL", OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. BECAUSE SOLID EVIDENCE HAS NOT BEEN FOUND FOR EITHER SIDE OF THE DEBATE, IT WILL NEVER BE A "NO CHANCE" ISSUE.

 

There is obviously a chance that God exists. OBVIOUSLY. What atheists choose to believe is that there are other, more rational options for things we cannot explain, like the creation of the universe. The reason God is irrational is because there is no proof of a supreme being who can, so to speak, do everything. As stated before, there are holes in the theory of God. But you can never say God DOES NOT exist. Because you are inadvertantly saying you have proved Gods non-existance.

 

God does not exist, and there is no possibility of him actually existing. Well, besides subjectively and in story books.

 

Can you prove He does not exist?

 

I am still an atheist, but that will be your opposition when you blatantly assume God does not exist.

[Willieh]

There is absolutely no chance of there ever being a divine creature or deity. There is no solid rock evidence' date=' and believing that a deity created the universe is just childish.

[/quote']

 

:/

 

NEVER, IN A DEBATE ABOUT RELIGION AND SCIENCE, SAY THAT THERE IS NO CHANCE. ALWAYS USE "LOW CHANCE", "IRRATIONAL", OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. BECAUSE SOLID EVIDENCE HAS NOT BEEN FOUND FOR EITHER SIDE OF THE DEBATE, IT WILL NEVER BE A "NO CHANCE" ISSUE.

 

There is obviously a chance that God exists. OBVIOUSLY. What atheists choose to believe is that there are other, more rational options for things we cannot explain, like the creation of the universe. The reason God is irrational is because there is no proof of a supreme being who can, so to speak, do everything. As stated before, there are holes in the theory of God. But you can never say God DOES NOT exist. Because you are inadvertantly saying you have proved Gods non-existance.

 

God does not exist, and there is no possibility of him actually existing. Well, besides subjectively and in story books.

 

Can you prove He does not exist?

 

I am still an atheist, but that will be your opposition when you blatantly assume God does not exist.

 

I can't prove that gravity exists.

 

But common sense kind of suggests that it does.

[Flame Dragon]

There is absolutely no chance of there ever being a divine creature or deity. There is no solid rock evidence' date=' and believing that a deity created the universe is just childish.

[/quote']

 

:/

 

NEVER, IN A DEBATE ABOUT RELIGION AND SCIENCE, SAY THAT THERE IS NO CHANCE. ALWAYS USE "LOW CHANCE", "IRRATIONAL", OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. BECAUSE SOLID EVIDENCE HAS NOT BEEN FOUND FOR EITHER SIDE OF THE DEBATE, IT WILL NEVER BE A "NO CHANCE" ISSUE.

 

There is obviously a chance that God exists. OBVIOUSLY. What atheists choose to believe is that there are other, more rational options for things we cannot explain, like the creation of the universe. The reason God is irrational is because there is no proof of a supreme being who can, so to speak, do everything. As stated before, there are holes in the theory of God. But you can never say God DOES NOT exist. Because you are inadvertantly saying you have proved Gods non-existance.

 

God does not exist, and there is no possibility of him actually existing. Well, besides subjectively and in story books.

 

Can you prove He does not exist?

 

I am still an atheist, but that will be your opposition when you blatantly assume God does not exist.

 

I can't prove that gravity exists.

 

But common sense kind of suggests that it does.

You drop something. The reason it drops is a force we know as gravity, so their I have proven it exists.

[Willieh]

There is absolutely no chance of there ever being a divine creature or deity. There is no solid rock evidence' date=' and believing that a deity created the universe is just childish.

[/quote']

 

:/

 

NEVER, IN A DEBATE ABOUT RELIGION AND SCIENCE, SAY THAT THERE IS NO CHANCE. ALWAYS USE "LOW CHANCE", "IRRATIONAL", OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. BECAUSE SOLID EVIDENCE HAS NOT BEEN FOUND FOR EITHER SIDE OF THE DEBATE, IT WILL NEVER BE A "NO CHANCE" ISSUE.

 

There is obviously a chance that God exists. OBVIOUSLY. What atheists choose to believe is that there are other, more rational options for things we cannot explain, like the creation of the universe. The reason God is irrational is because there is no proof of a supreme being who can, so to speak, do everything. As stated before, there are holes in the theory of God. But you can never say God DOES NOT exist. Because you are inadvertantly saying you have proved Gods non-existance.

 

God does not exist, and there is no possibility of him actually existing. Well, besides subjectively and in story books.

 

Can you prove He does not exist?

 

I am still an atheist, but that will be your opposition when you blatantly assume God does not exist.

 

I can't prove that gravity exists.

 

But common sense kind of suggests that it does.

You drop something. The reason it drops is a force we know as gravity, so their I have proven it exists.

 

How do you know aliens aren't living in the earths core and using high powered vacuumes to pull things to the surface?

[Flame Dragon]

There is absolutely no chance of there ever being a divine creature or deity. There is no solid rock evidence' date=' and believing that a deity created the universe is just childish.

[/quote']

 

:/

 

NEVER, IN A DEBATE ABOUT RELIGION AND SCIENCE, SAY THAT THERE IS NO CHANCE. ALWAYS USE "LOW CHANCE", "IRRATIONAL", OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. BECAUSE SOLID EVIDENCE HAS NOT BEEN FOUND FOR EITHER SIDE OF THE DEBATE, IT WILL NEVER BE A "NO CHANCE" ISSUE.

 

There is obviously a chance that God exists. OBVIOUSLY. What atheists choose to believe is that there are other, more rational options for things we cannot explain, like the creation of the universe. The reason God is irrational is because there is no proof of a supreme being who can, so to speak, do everything. As stated before, there are holes in the theory of God. But you can never say God DOES NOT exist. Because you are inadvertantly saying you have proved Gods non-existance.

 

God does not exist, and there is no possibility of him actually existing. Well, besides subjectively and in story books.

 

Can you prove He does not exist?

 

I am still an atheist, but that will be your opposition when you blatantly assume God does not exist.

 

I can't prove that gravity exists.

 

But common sense kind of suggests that it does.

You drop something. The reason it drops is a force we know as gravity, so their I have proven it exists.

 

How do you know aliens aren't living in the earths core and using high powered vacuumes to pull things to the surface?

So they're doing that though the whole universe? Those most be damn strong vacuumes

[Willieh]

There is absolutely no chance of there ever being a divine creature or deity. There is no solid rock evidence' date=' and believing that a deity created the universe is just childish.

[/quote']

 

:/

 

NEVER, IN A DEBATE ABOUT RELIGION AND SCIENCE, SAY THAT THERE IS NO CHANCE. ALWAYS USE "LOW CHANCE", "IRRATIONAL", OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. BECAUSE SOLID EVIDENCE HAS NOT BEEN FOUND FOR EITHER SIDE OF THE DEBATE, IT WILL NEVER BE A "NO CHANCE" ISSUE.

 

There is obviously a chance that God exists. OBVIOUSLY. What atheists choose to believe is that there are other, more rational options for things we cannot explain, like the creation of the universe. The reason God is irrational is because there is no proof of a supreme being who can, so to speak, do everything. As stated before, there are holes in the theory of God. But you can never say God DOES NOT exist. Because you are inadvertantly saying you have proved Gods non-existance.

 

God does not exist, and there is no possibility of him actually existing. Well, besides subjectively and in story books.

 

Can you prove He does not exist?

 

I am still an atheist, but that will be your opposition when you blatantly assume God does not exist.

 

I can't prove that gravity exists.

 

But common sense kind of suggests that it does.

You drop something. The reason it drops is a force we know as gravity, so their I have proven it exists.

 

How do you know aliens aren't living in the earths core and using high powered vacuumes to pull things to the surface?

So they're doing that though the whole universe? Those most be damn strong vacuumes

 

Nope. There are aliens in every planet.

[Flame Dragon]

There is absolutely no chance of there ever being a divine creature or deity. There is no solid rock evidence' date=' and believing that a deity created the universe is just childish.

[/quote']

 

:/

 

NEVER, IN A DEBATE ABOUT RELIGION AND SCIENCE, SAY THAT THERE IS NO CHANCE. ALWAYS USE "LOW CHANCE", "IRRATIONAL", OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. BECAUSE SOLID EVIDENCE HAS NOT BEEN FOUND FOR EITHER SIDE OF THE DEBATE, IT WILL NEVER BE A "NO CHANCE" ISSUE.

 

There is obviously a chance that God exists. OBVIOUSLY. What atheists choose to believe is that there are other, more rational options for things we cannot explain, like the creation of the universe. The reason God is irrational is because there is no proof of a supreme being who can, so to speak, do everything. As stated before, there are holes in the theory of God. But you can never say God DOES NOT exist. Because you are inadvertantly saying you have proved Gods non-existance.

 

God does not exist, and there is no possibility of him actually existing. Well, besides subjectively and in story books.

 

Can you prove He does not exist?

 

I am still an atheist, but that will be your opposition when you blatantly assume God does not exist.

 

I can't prove that gravity exists.

 

But common sense kind of suggests that it does.

You drop something. The reason it drops is a force we know as gravity, so their I have proven it exists.

 

How do you know aliens aren't living in the earths core and using high powered vacuumes to pull things to the surface?

So they're doing that though the whole universe? Those most be damn strong vacuumes

 

Nope. There are aliens in every planet.

 

And the sun? And black holes? Also are you ignoring the fact that to be in those the gravity would crush them. Plus they vacuums would need to be damn strong since the force of gravity can be felt millions of miles from the object from which the froce is coming from. Hell if you were in the center of the earth you would melt. Also for an alien race to have spread thought the universe like that is more irrational then believing in god. Their is also the fact that they would have had to come from some planet, so how could they have evolved on said planet if it is impossible for their to have gravity since they weren't their to create it on the grounds that they were still developing.

[Willieh]

There is absolutely no chance of there ever being a divine creature or deity. There is no solid rock evidence' date=' and believing that a deity created the universe is just childish.

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NEVER, IN A DEBATE ABOUT RELIGION AND SCIENCE, SAY THAT THERE IS NO CHANCE. ALWAYS USE "LOW CHANCE", "IRRATIONAL", OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. BECAUSE SOLID EVIDENCE HAS NOT BEEN FOUND FOR EITHER SIDE OF THE DEBATE, IT WILL NEVER BE A "NO CHANCE" ISSUE.

 

There is obviously a chance that God exists. OBVIOUSLY. What atheists choose to believe is that there are other, more rational options for things we cannot explain, like the creation of the universe. The reason God is irrational is because there is no proof of a supreme being who can, so to speak, do everything. As stated before, there are holes in the theory of God. But you can never say God DOES NOT exist. Because you are inadvertantly saying you have proved Gods non-existance.

 

God does not exist, and there is no possibility of him actually existing. Well, besides subjectively and in story books.

 

Can you prove He does not exist?

 

I am still an atheist, but that will be your opposition when you blatantly assume God does not exist.

 

I can't prove that gravity exists.

 

But common sense kind of suggests that it does.

You drop something. The reason it drops is a force we know as gravity, so their I have proven it exists.

 

How do you know aliens aren't living in the earths core and using high powered vacuumes to pull things to the surface?

So they're doing that though the whole universe? Those most be damn strong vacuumes

 

Nope. There are aliens in every planet.

 

And the sun? And black holes? Also are you ignoring the fact that to be in those the gravity would crush them. Plus they vacuums would need to be damn strong since the force of gravity can be felt millions of miles from the object from which the froce is coming from. Hell if you were in the center of the earth you would melt. Also for an alien race to have spread thought the universe like that is more irrational then believing in god. Their is also the fact that they would have had to come from some planet, so how could they have evolved on said planet if it is impossible for their to have gravity since they weren't their to create it on the grounds that they were still developing.

 

Just because there are some holes in a theory doesn't mean it's NOT true.

 

Haha. See what I did there?

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Did Willeh just epic troll this thread? >_>

 

Back on topic, but it doesn't make it true either? You kind of disproved your opening statement with that one. :/

 

Back off topic: You're sentence in Japanese on your user title doesn't have a noun marker....

[Willieh]

Did Willeh just epic troll this thread? >_>

 

Back on topic' date=' but it doesn't make it true either? You kind of disproved your opening statement with that one. :/

 

Back off topic: You're sentence in Japanese on your user title doesn't have a noun marker....

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I originally said "But common sense kind of suggests that it does."

 

I don't think that sentence needs a particle. owait