Armageddon Knight or Dark Grepher?

[Dark_Armed_Zombie]

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I'm fairly certain this has been discussed before, determining that Dark Grepher is better for turbo builds and Knight for pretty much everything else, but I'll still ask the question: Which do you prefer?

 

Personally, I prefer Armageddon Knight since it gets under Bottomless and is always a +0. It can easily be overrun, but it's better for card advantage and it's rarely on the field long enough to worry about it.

 

Discuss

[Crimson General]

Dark Grepher is mainly for Vayu and Infernity (because it shrinks hand too)

 

Armageddon I love waaaaaay more though. for the same reason as you DAZ

 

if arma was the secret/promo and Greph wasn't, arma might be more expensive than Greph is now.

[Kyosuke Kiryu]

Dark Grepher will be run at 2 lowest.

 

While, you barely see Arma run at 2, let alone 3.

[Dark_Armed_Zombie]

But Armageddon Knight works so well, I love it in my DHZ.

[Manjoume Thunder]

Depends on the deck.

[Toffee.]

I usually run Armageddon Knight.

Though Grepher can be better in most cases, I'm just usually iffy about the -1 to the hand part, to use the same effect as Armageddon. But with Grepher, you can keep using his effect over and over again.

 

......Still, I prefer Armageddon Knight, as I like how hes more searchable.

[wero-vasto]

DG could be a DAD =D

[RAEGING D0GKING]

Mezuki FTW!!!

 

On topic, depends on the deck.

[SmallieBigs]

Depends on the deck.

[-Griffin]

Arma, generally. 1700 isn't a decent ATK at all anymore, 1800 or 1900 seem to be standard. That just leaves effects, which means a +0 you can always use vs a -1 you might not be able to, with a -1 to Special Summon. Some builds will prefer Grepher, but generally I find Arma the superior.

[Guest PikaPerson01]

Depends on the deck.

 

This. If it's an OTK deck, go with Grepher. For the rest of us, Knight of The End is fine too.

[Dr. Cakey]

When I make a DARK deck I use both @ 1. Because I'm me.

[Sephiroth_The_Legend]

Grepher. Because i have 3 Secrets....

 

But

 

Depends on the deck.

 

This. If it's an OTK deck' date=' go with Grepher. For the rest of us, Knight of The End is fine too.

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[DARKPLANT RISING]

Depends on the deck.

 

Exactly.

 

But I prefer Armageddon most of the time, he's searchable with Mystic Tomato and Sangan.

 

Also, it wastes a limited tuner unless you use Imperial Iron Wall, but you can summon Brionac or Goyo immidatly upon drawing Armageddon with a -2 from your hand. (DG is -3.) Since you get to steal 1 monster, -1 or less.

[Chaos Flame]

Yeah, I mostly stick with arma, but when I use infernities I use grepher...

[DARKPLANT RISING]

Yeah' date=' I mostly stick with arma, but when I use infernities I use grepher...

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You use Infernities?

 

*shocked*

[Akira]

Grepher if I need stuff pitching from the hand. In Zombies, Armageddon was always better because Brio/Master too care of discards while Armageddon was also a target for Tomato. I like Grepher with Mali personally.

[Zauls]

Decks that run Grepher over ArmaKnight:

Infernities

Hopeless Dragons

BW (easy Vayu w/Sirroco)

Anything else I have missed, IDK.

[Guest Delinquent Girl NiAtSoFi]

When I type a decklist idea, Arma is the default DARK dumper.

 

Arma is good for Djinns and Skull Servants.

 

Grepher is good for a first-turn DAD...and likely Djinns.

[TheTurtleOnceCalledGod]

Decks that run Grepher over ArmaKnight:

Infernities

Hopeless Dragons

BW (easy Vayu w/Sirroco)

Anything else I have missed' date=' IDK.

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