Tentacruel Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 Not that many people know about this, and at least half of the people really mad about this are under 18. And I ask again, is Obama the one that proposed this in the first place? I read somewhere that this was the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 can you provide the link if you find it? I don't recall that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Avian Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1321493691' post='5647568'] this is why a lot of people argue the US government is not really a democracy [/quote] No it is not. This is not a democracy, this is a republic. In a democracy, people actually vote for who goes into office, in a republic, we vote for people to make our choices for us, which is why we're in the sorry state we're in. I think it would take nothing short of an armed uprising for the government to temporarily give a f*** and try to fix what it has done by putting down the rebellion, which some people will no doubt support, and then a short time after that, there will be a full blown revolution. At least that's my prediction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 Kind of a random site, but here. [url="http://www.asiantribune.com/news/2011/11/16/us-contemplates-unprecedented-internet-censorship-bill-proposes-web-site-closure"]http://www.asiantrib...eb-site-closure[/url] And on the topic of rebellion, hell I'm all for it. (I won't be joining in though. =P) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 oh there will be a full blown revolution, the question is will we be alive to see it when that happens this occupy wall street is just a starting example of people finally seeing the government has abused its power long enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1321477478' post='5646835'] not all governments are that easy to overthrow, you know [/quote] True, but America isn't one of those. 1. Fight with arms/words. 2. Leave America really can't make too many unjust actions, you know, with the rest of the world watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 maybe not, but there's plenty elsewhere in the world who see us as bullies who are incapable of compromise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 Which is what we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 [quote name='Tentacruel' timestamp='1321496227' post='5647716'] Which is what we are. [/quote] yeah this is going to fall flat on our faces one way or another Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 America's doomed, it's only a matter of time (a relatively short amount of time at that). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 yeah well I could care less if the 2012 apocalypse happens in the US or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 I care! The US is where I keep my stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydra of Ages Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 Pft. This bill is hilarious. People tend to forget that America, you know,[i] doesn't own the internet[/i]. Enforcing this law is going to be impossible, if it even passes the court systems as constitutional. There will be two, maybe three things happening when/if this bill passes. 1) Now some videos pulled on Youtube/Dailymotion will say "American Government" instead of "Company X LTD" on occasion. 2) A couple website hosting services will go to Canada instead of the states. 3) One single mother out of a thousand will be charged a ridiculous sum of money because of this and the media will make an example of her, followed by politicians rapidly backpedaling in order to avoid any sort of blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 [quote name='Hydra of Thunder' timestamp='1321496826' post='5647730'] Pft. This bill is hilarious. People tend to forget that America, you know,[i] doesn't own the internet[/i]. Enforcing this law is going to be impossible, if it even passes the court systems as constitutional. There will be two, maybe three things happening when/if this bill passes. 1) Now some videos pulled on Youtube/Dailymotion will say "American Government" instead of "Company X LTD" on occasion. 2) A couple website hosting services will go to Canada instead of the states. 3) One single mother out of a thousand will be charged a ridiculous sum of money because of this and the media will make an example of her, followed by politicians rapidly backpedaling in order to avoid any sort of blame. [/quote] The American Government can take down any website hosted in America, block American users from accessing any website in the world, and to be honest, a lot of people treat you like a criminal if you're charged with something like that and don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 [quote name='Tentacruel' timestamp='1321496800' post='5647729'] I care! The US is where I keep my stuff! [/quote] hey it's where I keep mine too ever heard of the "small sacrifice for the greater good"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 [quote name='Tentacruel' timestamp='1321496800' post='5647729'] I care! The US is where I keep my stuff! [/quote] My "Stuff" could fill maybe 2 boxes, I'm not too worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 I just wish I had the money to relocate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 [quote name='Tentacruel' timestamp='1321497463' post='5647753'] I just wish I had the money to relocate. [/quote] we all do, but right now too many people are near broke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thar Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 America is going to fall to ruin. I just know it. I cannot afford to relocate. I'd need to put myself in debt for a plane ticket to Japan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 yeah with the Japanese companies it's so much better once you become a permanent employee, you're safe there all the way until you retire here, all they have to do is push a button and out you go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Avian Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 The only people who actually have permanent jobs are artists, politicians, and high level executives in corporations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 yeah well short of inheriting it from your family generation it's not exactly easy to reach CEO if this law goes it'll just make everything even more of a nightmare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thar Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1321500546' post='5647903'] yeah well short of inheriting it from your family generation it's not exactly easy to reach CEO if this law goes it'll just make everything even more of a nightmare [/quote] Exactly. But hey, at least they won't censor out video games. However, the internet is the heart of our lives, basically. Without it, everything starts to blur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 yeah I'd rather lose the video games altogether than the internet you take that away we might as well go back 50 years in time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thar Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1321500796' post='5647917'] yeah I'd rather lose the video games altogether than the internet you take that away we might as well go back 50 years in time [/quote] 50? But then you'd miss where music revolutionized. I'd say 30 at most. =3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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