THIS list is really better than all other lists.

[hotfoilcard]

my posts are fine...i posted this list on another site...its continuing to be trashed...i made a poll...the number one poll choice so far is

 

dont post a moronic ban list like this ever again

[Guest Chaos Pudding]

Arcana Force 0- The Fool deserves BAN HAMMER. Add it

Ultimate Offering doesn't. Remove it

 

Prove both.

 

The fool can be easily indestructible by the toss o' the coin

The offering' date=' well, I just had to balance it out.

[/quote']

 

Hardly any monster destruction in S/T form targets. And you'll have to deal with a 0 ATK monster that is a ***** to get back to Defense Position.

 

Why do you say that you had to balance it?

 

my posts are fine...i posted this list on another site...its continuing to be trashed...i made a poll...the number one poll choice so far is

 

dont post a moronic ban list like this ever again

 

That's nice. I try to be helpful, and all you can do is *****.

[Exiro]

lololololoollollollollollollollllololollololooololllollololooll

 

not wanting to read and not being able to read are not the same thing

 

And not wanting to read your posts is something that people who want to spare their eyes by not figuring out what you mean would want.

[hotfoilcard]

update:

 

the guy who wrote terribad in response to this list was quoted twice by a duelist with a wonderful reputation and a moderator...they agree

 

most recent insightful comment on the list:

 

That dude needs to stop smoking crack.

 

and no this comment was not from a guy who has like 1 post...

[Guest Chaos Pudding]

update:

 

the guy who wrote terribad in response to this list was quoted twice by a duelist with a wonderful reputation and a moderator...they agree

 

most recent insightful comment on the list:

 

That dude needs to stop smoking crack.

 

and no this comment was not from a guy who has like 1 post...

 

Link/proof/sauce/etc.?

[hotfoilcard]

update:

 

the guy who wrote terribad in response to this list was quoted twice by a duelist with a wonderful reputation and a moderator...they agree

 

most recent insightful comment on the list:

 

That dude needs to stop smoking crack.

 

and no this comment was not from a guy who has like 1 post...

 

Link/proof/sauce?

 

last time i linked another yugioh website i was negrepped by crabhelmet...sorry folks (i have enuff neg reps for right now)

 

pm me if youd like

[uzumakinaruto93]

update:

 

the guy who wrote terribad in response to this list was quoted twice by a duelist with a wonderful reputation and a moderator...they agree

 

most recent insightful comment on the list:

 

That dude needs to stop smoking crack.

 

and no this comment was not from a guy who has like 1 post...

 

Link/proof/sauce?

 

last time i linked another yugioh website i was negrepped by crabhelmet...sorry folks (i have enuff neg reps for right now)

 

pm me if youd like

 

if it have something to do with the topic/debate it legal, what you did what probably not

[Randomdog]

What deck do you suggest running with this list? It seems like your banning every card with potential for combos

[Guest Star]

ALL-OUT ATTACKS

 

lolwut?

 

CALL OF THE HAUNTED

 

I don't care what Chaos Pudding says in response to this' date=' but banning Call of the Haunted when Heavy Storm and Mystical Space Typhoon are at 3 is pro.

 

 

CHIMERATECH FORTRESS DRAGON (Chimeratech Fortress Dragon)

 

Banning this when Cyber Dragon is banned is a great move!

 

GLADIATOR BEAST HERAKLINOS

 

So' date=' 1-for-1 removal is bad for the game now?

 

LIFE EQUALIZER

 

lolwut?

 

SANGAN

 

how is this bad for the game at 1?

 

 

UNITED WE STAND

 

see Sangan

 

The rest is good.

[.:pyramid:.]

why would you want to ban the main three revival card, i think all lists should have at least 1 of them but with premature you would need to becarefull with arms hole. i get the idea of the list to slow down the metta and open loads of decks to become competitive. the lists you have created is like when the cave men were trying to create the wheel, and came up with a square design it will move if its put together properly but it will be faster to walk. i agree with banning cards where luck is a factor, and noob cannon cards ( JD and DAD ). you do realise you gave the hand of god to macros decks, well the upside is that a cheap deck now is very competitive. also you could argue that exodia is a luck based card and then bumping it up to three, could make exodia builds more competitive but less skill to pull off ( common charity, ect ). one question why did you not ban demise while unlimiting ARA, because that card isnt a noob cannon? and finaly cyber dragon and chain material, well i dont know how i would feel about them.

[Purple Dinosaur]

What's the effect of Reasoning again? I see it on the list but I'm too lazy to go on the wikia.

[hotfoilcard]

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Reasoning

 

this is one of the cards i actually agreed with ... ive been sick of this card for some time

 

reasoning is in about every single six sammy deck ive ever seen....

[Purple Dinosaur]

Oh okay. I see the effect now. It's a 1 in 12 chance you get it wrong then. Which can be used to your advantage in so many ways...

[Kizzi]

Oh okay. I see the effect now. It's a 1 in 12 chance you get it wrong then. Which can be used to your advantage in so many ways...

People run Level 11/12s?

[tonisanoob]

ok so in this meta 6sam and demise otk is everywhere

 

great

 

just gea t

 

quite the move there

 

-.-

 

also heavy at 3

 

lolwhut

 

mf at 3 lolwhut

 

the dules will be sooooooooooo slow

 

i attack they mf

 

you attack they mf

 

i play decree

 

urgh

 

soo mcuh s/t removal this format sucks

 

cut it down and get rid of 6sam united and demise and no point in having trade in and allure at 1

 

also what the hell happned to d draw thats still at 3 wtf

 

then we have a good format

[hotfoilcard]

Oh okay. I see the effect now. It's a 1 in 12 chance you get it wrong then. Which can be used to your advantage in so many ways...

 

its not a 1 in 12 chance youll get it wrong...esp if you know what deck your opponent is running...also you just pic the level of the monster you dont want to hit the field...

 

i really hate the card

 

sammies use it cuz they have level 3,4,5, (shogun is 7?) and sometimes put in enishi (lv?) and cyber dragon or even a jinzo (lv 6) oh and icr what spirit of the six level is...but

 

its not 1 in 12 IMO

 

on a different note:

imagine this ban list for team dueling!!!! lol @ 12 heavies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Guest Chaos Pudding]

on a different note:

imagine this ban list for team dueling!!!! lol @ 12 heavies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Any deck that isn't Burn fails in Tag.

[CrabHelmet]

If I ignored your post, the reason is one of the following:

 

1) I accidentally ignored it

2) You're not making enough sense to be worth responding to

3) See #2, but your name also happens to be hotfoilcard

 

good list crab' date=' we are talking about soul from DMU *insert many other byond YGO games here, along with YVD* right?

[/quote']

 

I don't think so. This is S.O.U.L.145 I'm talking about.

 

No sarcasm.

 

What fusion level 6 and under (that won't be able to attack for that turn and must be returned during the end phase) is so lethal that it warrants Magical Scientist's being banned?

 

Dark Balter the Terrible

Ryu Senshi

Fiend Skull Dragon

 

That's the essence of Scientist Toolbox.

 

Pay 1000 Life Points to Special Summon 1 Level 6 or lower Fusion Monster from your Fusion Deck in face-up Attack or Defense Position. That Fusion Monster cannot attack your opponent's Life Points directly' date=' and is returned to your Fusion Deck at the end of the turn.[/b']

 

... Am I missing something? Other then clearing a possible flip effect away with Dark Balter or just in general smacking around a level 4 monster, I'm not seeing much of a threat.

 

Unlimited tribute fodder + free access to toolbox of effects where having whatever monsters you want in that toolbox does not negatively impact you in any way + attack and kill every monster the opponent has = ???

 

Anyone' date=' please explain to me why allow Card Destruction, Mirror Force, Heavy Storm, Torrential Tribute and Magic Cylinder at 3? These cards are bad at 3 but balanced at 1.

[/quote']

 

MF, TT, and MC are fine at 3 by punishing blind attackers and overextenders, and remember that there's a lot of s/t removal in this format (hence Heavy Storm). Card Destruction isn't a threat at 3.

 

And please explain to me why ban Life Equalizer? I can't think of any card that can abuse Life Equalier' date=' except Gift Card.

[/quote']

 

Life Equalizer can't be used without being abused, and punishes the opponent for playing well, and both works with and encourages OTKs.

 

^with card of safe return banned manticore loop is dead

this is good list apart from im a little unsure about 3 mirror force because it doesnt promote aggro. Also im not sure on 3 heavy storm as this makes players wary of setting traps which arent chainable

 

3 Heavy Storm balances 3 Mirror' date=' and Mirror punishes overextension with monsters, as does Heavy with traps.

 

Arcana Force 0- The Fool deserves BAN HAMMER. Add it

Ultimate Offering doesn't. Remove it

 

lolwut

 

if anything by the looks of crabs list he wants stall to win an SJC...so i doubt after unlimiting LLAB' date=' reaper, and marshmallon that he would want to ban the fool lolololollz

[/quote']

 

Yeah, you caught me. I put Heavy at 3 to make Stall win an SJC.

 

NO GODDAMN WAY?!??!!?CYBER DRAGON???

Oh' date='crap!!They're starting to make a lot of forbidden cards!!!If they'll make the card forbidden, so why to create??

(I know, you created this list)

I think your list has too much forbidden cards...

[/quote']

 

Tell Konami to stop making cards that need to be banned, and I'll stop baning them.

 

Nice' date=' but note that Gyzarus can be reused after being sent to the graveyard.

Ex: GB Darius to get him to the field, using him in a Fusion to get him back where he belongs, and then fusing Bestiari with another GB to get him back, activating his effect.

[/quote']

 

You're still required to work to get him back. It balances.

 

[insert some stupidity about surgery here]

 

Yeah' date=' the official banlist could be improved, so given a choice between making obvious improvements and making the game balanced, it's clear that abandoning the game entirely makes more sense.

 

Arcana Force 0- The Fool deserves BAN HAMMER. Add it

Ultimate Offering doesn't. Remove it

 

Prove both.

 

The fool can be easily indestructible by the toss o' the coin

The offering' date=' well, I just had to balance it out.

[/quote']

 

This is a format with 3 Smashing, 3 Fissure, 3 Torrential, 3 Vortex, etc. The majority of monster removal doesn't target. Plus, you'd need to Special Summon him in face-up Defense Position to make use of his effect.

 

Ultimate Offering seems to be you asking for a change to be made for the sake of making a change.

 

my posts are fine...i posted this list on another site...its continuing to be trashed...i made a poll...the number one poll choice so far is

 

dont post a moronic ban list like this ever again

 

There are two possibilities:

 

1) The site you're on is filled with people of your intellectual calibre.

2) Everyone voted in the poll without reading the list' date=' deciding that your username was evidence enough that the banlist sucked.

 

ALL-OUT ATTACKS

 

lolwut?

 

Skill-free 3-card OTK.

 

CALL OF THE HAUNTED

 

I don't care what Chaos Pudding says in response to this' date=' but banning Call of the Haunted when Heavy Storm and Mystical Space Typhoon are at 3 is pro.

[/quote']

 

Requires no skill, especially when compared to things like Limit Reverse. Also, remember that Trunade is also at 3, which means recycling.

 

CHIMERATECH FORTRESS DRAGON (Chimeratech Fortress Dragon)

 

Banning this when Cyber Dragon is banned is a great move!

 

Proto.

 

GLADIATOR BEAST HERAKLINOS

 

So' date=' 1-for-1 removal is bad for the game now?

[/quote']

 

Heraklinos is 1-for-1 removal? That's funny, I was under the impression that he was an easy-to-summon 3000 ATK beatstick that offered 1-for-1 negation (that's better than removal) of all Spells and Traps for an easy-to-fulfill cost.

 

LIFE EQUALIZER

 

lolwut?

 

I explained this earlier in this post.

 

SANGAN

 

how is this bad for the game at 1?

 

Dark Eruption' date=' Limit Reverse, etc. We have 7 Sangan now, minimum.

 

UNITED WE STAND

 

see Sangan

 

Arms Hole. 1 per deck = 4 per deck. Also' date=' OTKs.

 

why would you want to ban the main three revival card,

 

Lucksack, no skill, etc.

 

i think all lists should have at least 1 of them

 

Justify.

 

the lists you have created is like when the cave men were trying to create the wheel' date=' and came up with a square design it will move if its put together properly but it will be faster to walk.

[/quote']

 

Except that in this case, it's faster to jump off a cliff, like Konami's banlist would like us all to do.

 

Slower metas generally require more skill, so the meta becoming slower is a side-effect of creating a more skilled meta.

 

you do realise you gave the hand of god to macros decks' date='

[/quote']

 

Eh? We banned RFTDD and Limited D.D. Survivor, while massively increasing the amount of s/t removal.

 

also you could argue that exodia is a luck based card and then bumping it up to three' date=' could make exodia builds more competitive but less skill to pull off ( common charity, ect ).

[/quote']

 

It's the case of the 5-card combo. Unless we ban every other 5-card godhand or Exodia-specific support becomes too strong, Exodia stays. Dark Eruption put Exodia close to the edge, but it hasn't fallen off yet.

 

one question why did you not ban demise while unlimiting ARA' date=' because that card isnt a noob cannon?

[/quote']

 

Lulz, Demise.

 

on a different note:

imagine this ban list for team dueling!!!! lol @ 12 heavies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Any deck that isn't Burn fails in Tag.

 

Tag needs its own exclusive banlist.

 

Also' date='

 

[b']UPDATES TO THE S.O.U.L LIST

 

SUMMON PRIEST - LIMITED

 

CAIUS THE SHADOW MONARCH - LIMITED

 

MONSTER GATE - LIMITED

 

TRIBE-INFECTING VIRUS - UNLIMITED

[Guest Chaos Pudding]

UPDATES TO THE S.O.U.L LIST

 

SUMMON PRIEST - LIMITED

 

CAIUS THE SHADOW MONARCH - LIMITED

 

MONSTER GATE - LIMITED

 

TRIBE-INFECTING VIRUS - UNLIMITED

 

****. Now I have to go update on Pojo.

[Guest Star]

 

Also' date='

 

[b']UPDATES TO THE S.O.U.L LIST

 

SUMMON PRIEST - LIMITED

 

CAIUS THE SHADOW MONARCH - LIMITED

 

MONSTER GATE - LIMITED

 

TRIBE-INFECTING VIRUS - UNLIMITED[/b]

 

Ok, so let me get this straight.

 

You've limited Monster Gate, crushing Dark Gaia and Nomi Turbo, and you've limited Caius, but left Raiza at 3.

 

Also, prove that Summon Priest is bad for the game at 3, but good for the game at 1.

[hotfoilcard]

UPDATES TO THE S.O.U.L LIST

 

SUMMON PRIEST - LIMITED

 

CAIUS THE SHADOW MONARCH - LIMITED

 

MONSTER GATE - LIMITED

 

TRIBE-INFECTING VIRUS - UNLIMITED

 

****. Now I have to go update on Pojo.

 

i wanted to quote crabhelmets post just to be obnoxious...

 

but i suppose ill go to pojo and see how this list is doing...

 

oh and i dont like the name S.O.U.L. list

 

call it frankenstein

[CrabHelmet]

 

Also' date='

 

[b']UPDATES TO THE S.O.U.L LIST

 

SUMMON PRIEST - LIMITED

 

CAIUS THE SHADOW MONARCH - LIMITED

 

MONSTER GATE - LIMITED

 

TRIBE-INFECTING VIRUS - UNLIMITED[/b]

 

Ok, so let me get this straight.

 

You've limited Monster Gate, crushing Dark Gaia and Nomi Turbo, and you've limited Caius, but left Raiza at 3.

 

Also, prove that Summon Priest is bad for the game at 3, but good for the game at 1.

 

You're thinking in terms of the wrong format; Caius is a bigger threat than Raiza.

 

Dark Gaia and Nomi Turbo do not require skill; they are by nature lucksack decks.

 

Summon Priest is Limited because of its combination with Synchro monsters.

[Guest Star]

 

Also' date='

 

[b']UPDATES TO THE S.O.U.L LIST

 

SUMMON PRIEST - LIMITED

 

CAIUS THE SHADOW MONARCH - LIMITED

 

MONSTER GATE - LIMITED

 

TRIBE-INFECTING VIRUS - UNLIMITED[/b]

 

Ok, so let me get this straight.

 

You've limited Monster Gate, crushing Dark Gaia and Nomi Turbo, and you've limited Caius, but left Raiza at 3.

 

Also, prove that Summon Priest is bad for the game at 3, but good for the game at 1.

 

You're thinking in terms of the wrong format; Caius is a bigger threat than Raiza.

 

Dark Gaia and Nomi Turbo do not require skill; they are by nature lucksack decks.

 

Summon Priest is Limited because of its combination with Synchro monsters.

 

Ok, so Summon Priest is good at 1.

 

I still don't think that Monster Gate and Reasoning should be on the list.

 

You've completely destroyed Nomi Turbo.

 

Isn't Tribe at 3 overkill?

[pizzaman]

For Summon Priest, my guess of why it's limited is because of abuse in Synchro decks.

With the 3 big revival cards banned in this list, it stops the person from reusing the same Priest over and over again during one turn for Synchroing multiple times.

 

Most commonly, what I see is:

- Priest pulling out Soldier of Mist Valley.

- Synchro for Stardust as protection.

- Prem on Priest, pull out Rescue cat.

- Rescue Cat brings out X-Saber + Des Koala.

- X-Saber + Des Koala Synchro to Broinac.

- Broinac bounces Prem to hand, revive Cat, Synchro again etc.

[CrabHelmet]

 

Also' date='

 

[b']UPDATES TO THE S.O.U.L LIST

 

SUMMON PRIEST - LIMITED

 

CAIUS THE SHADOW MONARCH - LIMITED

 

MONSTER GATE - LIMITED

 

TRIBE-INFECTING VIRUS - UNLIMITED[/b]

 

Ok, so let me get this straight.

 

You've limited Monster Gate, crushing Dark Gaia and Nomi Turbo, and you've limited Caius, but left Raiza at 3.

 

Also, prove that Summon Priest is bad for the game at 3, but good for the game at 1.

 

You're thinking in terms of the wrong format; Caius is a bigger threat than Raiza.

 

Dark Gaia and Nomi Turbo do not require skill; they are by nature lucksack decks.

 

Summon Priest is Limited because of its combination with Synchro monsters.

 

Ok, so Summon Priest is good at 1.

 

I still don't think that Monster Gate and Reasoning should be on the list.

 

You've completely destroyed Nomi Turbo.

 

Isn't Tribe at 3 overkill?

 

Monster Gate and Reasoning are sack cards by nature, and Nomi Turbo is a sack deck by nature.

 

3 Tribe is fine.