CrabHelmet Posted May 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 Just seems like it was copied froma mag. No offense' date=' but it just seems like it.[/quote'] wut No magazine would have changes this good. Have you ever seen a magazine suggest banning Life Equalizer? That's what I thought. The rest of this page just seems to be some twit with a hideous avatar whining about something or other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 ok i understand what your saying about heavy storm and mirror force at 3 but im still not sure. Surely 3 MF would render SS decks pretty bad as by nature they are designed to overextend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted May 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 ok i understand what your saying about heavy storm and mirror force at 3 but im still not sure. Surely 3 MF would render SS decks pretty bad as by nature they are designed to overextend Six Samurai has Yaichi on its side, and with ROTA now at 3, Yaichi can come out very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 yea i suppose yaichi would be run in 3s in this sort of format Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 The one thing that keeps popping up over at TCGPlayers is that Monarchs will be abused and that the list "sux". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 amazing list. but why did yah ban mah Cybah Drahgon? me likey Cybah Drahgon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:pyramid:. Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 No sarcasm. What fusion level 6 and under (that won't be able to attack for that turn and must be returned during the end phase) is so lethal that it warrants Magical Scientist's being banned? Dark Balter the TerribleRyu SenshiFiend Skull Dragon That's the essence of Scientist Toolbox. Pay 1000 Life Points to Special Summon 1 Level 6 or lower Fusion Monster from your Fusion Deck in face-up Attack or Defense Position. That Fusion Monster cannot attack your opponent's Life Points directly' date=' and is returned to your Fusion Deck at the end of the turn.[/b'] ... Am I missing something? Other then clearing a possible flip effect away with Dark Balter or just in general smacking around a level 4 monster, I'm not seeing much of a threat. does plasma, light ruler, ring a bell? this card can get them out on your first turn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizzaman Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 No sarcasm. What fusion level 6 and under (that won't be able to attack for that turn and must be returned during the end phase) is so lethal that it warrants Magical Scientist's being banned? Dark Balter the TerribleRyu SenshiFiend Skull Dragon That's the essence of Scientist Toolbox. Pay 1000 Life Points to Special Summon 1 Level 6 or lower Fusion Monster from your Fusion Deck in face-up Attack or Defense Position. That Fusion Monster cannot attack your opponent's Life Points directly' date=' and is returned to your Fusion Deck at the end of the turn.[/b'] ... Am I missing something? Other then clearing a possible flip effect away with Dark Balter or just in general smacking around a level 4 monster, I'm not seeing much of a threat. does plasma, light ruler, ring a bell? this card can get them out on your first turnBut with the various monster removal cards now unbanned in this list, large monsters with no built-in protection basically falls prey to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 monarchs being abused with treeborn frog banned? right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotfoilcard Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 monarchs being abused with treeborn frog banned? right do you need treeborn with 3 spy, 3 marshmallon, 3 reaper, 3 (edit: arcana force the fool...i didnt want jesus to think i was calling him a fool...>_>) fool? i suppose youll say all the spell based monster destruction will prevent all those from surviving long enuff to get a monarch out... nay i see the classic playset of solemn and bribe with the now handy destruction jammer easily keeping what amounts to 12 tribs on the field as long as you need em. add some vandy and im ready to *pukes* plasma would be ridiculously easy to get out...as would LaDD...and why did crab touch cauis after 4-5 pages of posts unless he realized that monarchs were a little *barf* with this ban list? oh yeah and 3 brain lolololool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parallel Gunshot Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 MORPHING JAR ISNT BANNED IS IT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!it wasnt in March anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 ^hot foil u fail so hard its riduclous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotfoilcard Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 ^hot foil u fail so hard its riduclous u just defined what pikaperson went over to tcg and complained about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 how can monarch control work with 3 TT and 3 mirror force sorry but no, although monarchs would become stronger they certainly wont dominate the meta, this actually makes a balanced meta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotfoilcard Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 how can monarch control work with 3 TT and 3 mirror force sorry but no' date=' although monarchs would become stronger they certainly wont dominate the meta, this actually makes a balanced meta[/quote'] again solemn bribe primematerial and destruction jammer oh yeah and LaDD would be negating that stuff too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 have you ever thought that the person playing would have solemn/bribe/DJ also LADD is stuck with its chain bounce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotfoilcard Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 have you ever thought that the person playing would have solemn/bribe/DJ also LADD is stuck with its chain bounce yay!!! monarch mirror matches!!!! thank you for taking me back 6 months...if i wanted monarch mirror matches i would email the "new reputable owner of GKO" and tell them that they made a mistake in updating last augusts ban list and that they need to get even further outdated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 not just monarchs run solemn/bribe/DJ i reckon counter fairies would be pretty good with this list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 How would Prime Material Dragon stop Monarchs? As I've said before, the only problem with this list is Monster Gate being limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotfoilcard Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 How would Prime Material Dragon stop Monarchs? As I've said before' date=' the only problem with this list is Monster Gate being limited.[/quote'] prime material stops torrential, mirror, smashing, fissure, lightning vortex, shield crush, hammer shot (all that monster removal that chaos_pudding was talking about that would make it so monarchs wouldnt be broken even though there are 3 marsh, 3 reaper, 3 brain, and now with LODT - thru no doing of crab - 3 fool) so prime material wouldnt stop monarchs...it would BE IN MONARCHS call it the prime material monarch lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 your hand would suffer greatly though you would have like no hand advantage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 So you're saying that a duelist will have an unlimited number of cards in their hand? They can keep discarding and discarding every time a Spell or Trap is activated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotfoilcard Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 your hand would suffer greatly though you would have like no hand advantage cant kuraz and ddr be used as some sort of draw engine? and valley could help.. i mean your right your hand would suffer...but blocking one mirror force or torrential could be game breaking. i still havent figured out the draw engines in this list...then again i spent 3 seconds thinking about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 Plus, Prime Material Dragon also requires a Tribute. So in the turn that you have a Monarch on the field and no Prime Material Dragon, the Monarch is fresh meat. If you summon Prime Material Dragon first, what happens if you have to discard your Monarchs in order to activate its effect? A Monarch Deck isn't very effective without its Monarchs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 hotfoiltroll, why would Monarchs be top tier... at all? They lost their skill less trib bait (Treeborn), Disk is banned, so no PC. The Macro Variation is hurt with the limitation of Survivor. The only still intact version of Monarchs is the Volcanic variant, and it's unlikely it would run as well with S/T removal so rampant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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