hotfoilcard Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 ok so is there a draw engine in this ban list? or are we all topdecking? *chanting...heavy, MF, TT, brain...heavy, MF, TT, brain...heavy, MF, TT, brain* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 ok so is there a draw engine in this ban list? or are we all topdecking? Lol, skill less drawing. If you wanna waste every card you draw, that's your problem. When you only have X amount of cards in hand, you'll see who's really skilled. Do you over commit to the field, or do you actually... try... to show some skill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 ok so is there a draw engine in this ban list? or are we all topdecking? *chanting...heavy' date=' MF, TT, brain...heavy, MF, TT, brain...heavy, MF, TT, brain*[/quote'] What the **** are you talking about? Why would the game automatically revert to topdeck mode? This format is made specifically with a slower speed in mind. Draw engines being a needed thing is an illusion made to cope with the extreme speed of today's meta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotfoilcard Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 ok so is there a draw engine in this ban list? or are we all topdecking? Lol' date=' skill less drawing. If you wanna waste every card you draw, that's your problem. When you only have X amount of cards in hand, you'll see who's really skilled. Do you over commit to the field, or do you actually... try... to show some skill?[/quote'] you think breaking a mirror force with a discard is a waste? llolo@U you think breaking a torrential with a discard is a waste? LOLOL@U oh and dont forget they are neg -1 with TT, -1 MF, -2 with Lightning Vortex if they dont go off because of prime material dragon (plus i still have a beatstick on the field) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 with less drawing going on, keeping hand advantage would be more key, throwing away cards to keep prime material on the field is asking for trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 ok so is there a draw engine in this ban list? or are we all topdecking? Lol' date=' skill less drawing. If you wanna waste every card you draw, that's your problem. When you only have X amount of cards in hand, you'll see who's really skilled. Do you over commit to the field, or do you actually... try... to show some skill?[/quote'] you think breaking a mirror force with a discard is a waste? llolo@U you think breaking a torrential with a discard is a waste? LOLOL@U oh and dont forget they are neg -1 with TT, -1 MF, -2 with Lightning Vortex if they dont go off because of prime material dragon (plus i still have a beatstick on the field) You were still talking about Prime Material Dragon? I thought we had gotten pass that... Anyway, what you get rid of is irrelevent. We are still forcing you to sacrifice hand advantage for field advantage, so those cards might as well have just turned into Confiscations without the Life Point cost. As is such, your numbers are off. It's a +0 for TT, +0 for MF, and a -1 for LV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotfoilcard Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 with less drawing going on' date=' keeping hand advantage would be more key, throwing away cards to keep prime material on the field is asking for trouble[/quote'] did you forget that Dark Red Enchanter and Thesty can easily start screwing up your philosophy? i would consider a build with thesty, dre, some teched prime, 2 ladd, and some caius pretty dirty with 12 tribs...3 brain...(btw i still consider it a monarch build) ugh im repeating myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 Quack quack Dude, who even mentioned Prime Material Dragon in this convo? Also, monarch builds get ****ed without Treeborn Frog to make them skill less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 ok so is there a draw engine in this ban list? or are we all topdecking? Lol' date=' skill less drawing. If you wanna waste every card you draw, that's your problem. When you only have X amount of cards in hand, you'll see who's really skilled. Do you over commit to the field, or do you actually... try... to show some skill?[/quote'] you think breaking a mirror force with a discard is a waste? llolo@U you think breaking a torrential with a discard is a waste? LOLOL@U oh and dont forget they are neg -1 with TT, -1 MF, -2 with Lightning Vortex if they dont go off because of prime material dragon (plus i still have a beatstick on the field) I'm going to ask you something that a member asked me a few weeks ago: Do you live to fail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotfoilcard Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 Quack quack Dude' date=' who even mentioned Prime Material Dragon in this convo?[/quote'] i did...raiza gives you hand advantage too oh and is this a convo? i feel like im playing bull in the ring...and winning. maybe u guys should take a breather, go to pojo and tcg and just recheck the near unanimous rejection of this list by unbiased individuals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 why run 3 brains when you can run 3 soul exchanges, lets u use face downs as tributes aswell lol remix i remember that, youve come a long way since then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 Quack quack Dude' date=' who even mentioned Prime Material Dragon in this convo?[/quote'] i did...raiza gives you hand advantage too Exactly. So shut the **** up. Stop introducing Straw Men arguments. Stop being so terrible at the game. Pick up a book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 with less drawing going on' date=' keeping hand advantage would be more key, throwing away cards to keep prime material on the field is asking for trouble[/quote'] did you forget that Dark Red Enchanter and Thesty can easily start screwing up your philosophy? i would consider a build with thesty, dre, some teched prime, 2 ladd, and some caius pretty dirty with 12 tribs...3 brain...(btw i still consider it a monarch build) ugh im repeating myself 1 Caius per deck. Crab just Limited it. And since you talk about the deck so much, why not post it or play me with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 Moving on, I think that Cyber Dragon should be unbanned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 why run 3 brains when you can run 3 soul exchanges' date=' lets u use face downs as tributes aswell lol remix i remember that, youve come a long way since then[/quote'] Lol, did he say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 Moving on' date=' I think that Cyber Dragon should be unbanned.[/quote'] Skill less 2100 beatstick. Tramples all level 1-4 monsters. Punishes opponent for playing well.No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 No. Just no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 Moving on' date=' I think that Cyber Dragon should be unbanned.[/quote'] I'm neutral on it. I think that, on one hand, CyDra is a good tool for decks that aren't that fast, as it helps them get some field presence. On the other hand, it also encourages aggro to a huge extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 I'm going to ask you something that a member asked me a few weeks ago: Do you live to fail? lol remix i remember that' date=' youve come a long way since then[/quote'] I said that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 Moving on' date=' I think that Cyber Dragon should be unbanned.[/quote'] I'm neutral on it. I think that, on one hand, CyDra is a good tool for decks that aren't that fast, as it helps them get some field presence. On the other hand, it also encourages aggro to a huge extent. I agree bad decks like *thinks* Harpie Lady, Aliens or Vehicroids would do well with a card like Cyber Dragon. Unfortunately, it'd be pointless to write little provisions on the card. "This card can't be used in a deck with monarchs, etc." I say it punishes your opponent too much for playing well and actually clearing your field. Then they have to contend with a 2100 attack stick. On a different note: Limit Mirror Force, Limit Heavy Storm, Limit Reaper, Limit Marshmallon, Limit The Fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 Moving on' date=' I think that Cyber Dragon should be unbanned.[/quote'] I'm neutral on it. I think that, on one hand, CyDra is a good tool for decks that aren't that fast, as it helps them get some field presence. On the other hand, it also encourages aggro to a huge extent. I agree bad decks like *thinks* Harpie Lady, Aliens or Vehicroids would do well with a card like Cyber Dragon. Unfortunately, it'd be pointless to write little provisions on the card. "This card can't be used in a deck with monarchs, etc." I say it punishes your opponent too much for playing well and actually clearing your field. Then they have to contend with a 2100 attack stick. On a different note: Limit Mirror Force and Limit Heavy Storm. If you Limit Heavy, you also have to limit Gravity Bind and LLAB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotfoilcard Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 now you guys are coming to your senses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 Moving on' date=' I think that Cyber Dragon should be unbanned.[/quote'] I'm neutral on it. I think that, on one hand, CyDra is a good tool for decks that aren't that fast, as it helps them get some field presence. On the other hand, it also encourages aggro to a huge extent. I agree bad decks like *thinks* Harpie Lady, Aliens or Vehicroids would do well with a card like Cyber Dragon. Unfortunately, it'd be pointless to write little provisions on the card. "This card can't be used in a deck with monarchs, etc." I say it punishes your opponent too much for playing well and actually clearing your field. Then they have to contend with a 2100 attack stick. On a different note: Limit Mirror Force and Limit Heavy Storm. If you Limit Heavy, you also have to limit Gravity Bind and LLAB. Twister x 3. Dust Tornado x 3. MST x 3. Mobius x 3. Malevolent Catastrophe x 3. Probably a lot of other I'm missing too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 Limit Reaper' date=' Limit Marshmallon, Limit The Fool.[/quote'] I'm still saying that 3 Smashing, 3 Fissure, 3 Lightning Vortex and 3 Shield Crush are enough to deal with Reaper, Marshmallon, and The Fool. Twister x 3. Dust Tornado x 3. MST x 3. Mobius x 3. Malevolent Catastrophe x 3. Probably a lot of other I'm missing too. Everything but Malevolent Catastrophe works in my book. Stall decks aren't big on attacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSceptile Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 Stop using tcgplayer and pojo as arguments. Go to dgz. kthnxbai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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