Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Laquari isnt even LOL Semi-Limit worthy. Why should it be banned just because it can become a 2100 ATK beatstick? Rescue Cat can get it straight from the deck to the field on your turn and if that isnt speed then I dont know what is. Smashing Ground is a good example of field control but why are we talking about that? Limit Reverse brings it back ready for more abuse. Tribute, tag out, GB effect, revive, tribute, tag out, GB effect, and so on. Abuse can make the game unfair as effective as it may be and if GB's were able to work in World's without Test Tiger, why should Limiting it be a big deal anyway? With Dark Armed Dragon, Judgment Dragon and Gyzarus banned and Test Tiger Limited why should it be a big deal if GB's won World's without Test Tiger and against Dark Armed Dragon (w/o Allure) and Lightsworn (w/o Ehren which doesnt make much difference in Lightsworn anyway) for example. Those decks may not be as good as in the current TCG but they still have their respective win condition cards (Judgment Dragon and Dark Armed Dragon) both of which should be banned but this discussion isnt about them now is it? Rescue Cat also isnt the only card that can search Test Tiger from the Deck apart from the obvious Sangan and Witch of the Black Forest (in Traditional) either. Giant Rat can also search it out but then Test Tiger could be vulnerable on your opponent's turn unless you have a Waboku or Mirror Force set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 your soo bad at arguing crab helmet your aguments almost always involve saying tht a card is banworthy well you see you rate a card on how it woudl work in this soo-called "perfect meta" but thats a bad way to do it, as saying tht test tiger shouldnt be banned because sangan should be banned is a horrible argument(do not get me wrong tiger should stay, its just you cant say " Two of which are banworthy, and the third of which is a Trap." saying cards should be banned as an argument isnt an argument) test tiger is abusable simple as that it just shouldnt be banned simple as that, because its not broken AT ALL lots of cards are abusable but shouldnt be banned take diamond dude for instance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Laquari isnt even LOL Semi-Limit worthy. Why should it be banned just because it can become a 2100 ATK beatstick? Rescue Cat can get it straight from the deck to the field on your turn and if that isnt speed then I dont know what is. Smashing Ground is a good example of field control but why are we talking about that? Limit Reverse brings it back ready for more abuse. Tribute' date=' tag out, GB effect, revive, tribute, tag out, GB effect, and so on. Abuse can make the game unfair as effective as it may be and if GB's were able to work in World's without Test Tiger, why should Limiting it be a big deal anyway? With Dark Armed Dragon, Judgment Dragon and Gyzarus banned and Test Tiger Limited why should it be a big deal if GB's won World's without Test Tiger and against Dark Armed Dragon (w/o Allure) and Lightsworn (w/o Ehren which doesnt make much difference in Lightsworn anyway) for example. Those decks may not be as good as in the current TCG but they still have their respective win condition cards (Judgment Dragon and Dark Armed Dragon) both of which should be banned but this discussion isnt about them now is it? Rescue Cat also isnt the only card that can search Test Tiger from the Deck apart from the obvious Sangan and Witch of the Black Forest (in Traditional) either. Giant Rat can also search it out but then Test Tiger could be vulnerable on your opponent's turn unless you have a Waboku or Mirror Force set.[/quote'] Compare your post to Atem's. Even though his post contains so much more content (I haven't counted characters, but I said content), his post is much more readable. In other words, use the enter button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted August 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Laquari isnt even LOL Semi-Limit worthy. Why should it be banned just because it can become a 2100 ATK beatstick? Test Tiger isn't even LOL Semi-Limit worthy. Why should it be banned just because it can turn something else into a 2100 ATK beatstick? Rescue Cat can get it straight from the deck to the field on your turn and if that isnt speed then I dont know what is. Uses up a Normal Summon. Also' date=' being searchable is not the same thing as being banworthy. Smashing Ground is a good example of field control but why are we talking about that? Test Tiger is a good example of field control but why are we talking about that? Limit Reverse brings it back ready for more abuse. I love the logical argument you've constructed that shows that the use of Test Tiger constitutes abuse. I think the entire argument is the part where you say "It is abuse. QED." You have yet to show that such a use of Test Tiger has a negative impact on the game. Tribute' date=' tag out, GB effect, revive, tribute, tag out, GB effect, and so on.[/quote'] You have yet to show that such a use of Test Tiger has a negative impact on the game. Abuse They need to extend Godwin's Law to cover the word "abuse". You have yet to show that such a use of Test Tiger has a negative impact on the game. can make the game unfair as effective as it may be Because you said so' date=' right? I'm assuming that that's the rationale behind calling it "unfair", since you don't seem to have provided any other reasoning. and if GB's were able to work in World's without Test Tiger, why should Limiting it be a big deal anyway? GB's were also able to win Worlds without Great Shogun Shien. Let's Limit that too. With Dark Armed Dragon' date=' Judgment Dragon and Gyzarus banned and Test Tiger Limited why should it be a big deal if GB's won World's without Test Tiger and against Dark Armed Dragon (w/o Allure) and Lightsworn (w/o Ehren which doesnt make much difference in Lightsworn anyway) for example. [/quote'] I can't even tell what you're trying to say here, but if I'm interpreting it correctly, you're essentially saying "They won without Test Tiger, so why should they care if Test Tiger gets Limited?" This is the most ridiculous argument of all. A card not being necessary is no reason to Limit it. In fact, the Gladiator Beasts' victory at Worlds without Test Tiger's help is evidence that, if something is broken about Gladiator Beasts, Test Tiger is not the source of that brokenness. Those decks may not be as good as in the current TCG but they still have their respective win condition cards (Judgment Dragon and Dark Armed Dragon) both of which should be banned but this discussion isnt about them now is it? Now you're just rambling. Those decks Rescue Cat also isnt the only card that can search Test Tiger from the Deck apart from the obvious Sangan and Witch of the Black Forest (in Traditional) either. Giant Rat can also search it out but then Test Tiger could be vulnerable on your opponent's turn unless you have a Waboku or Mirror Force set. Awesome, then I can swap my Gladiator Beasts in and out after conducting a Battle Phase! ...oh, wait. And once again, being searchable does not constitute brokenness. Throughout all of your posts, you insist that Test Tiger is broken, but you have never offered any evidence whatsoever that shows that it is bad for the game. You claim that it is "abusable" and "unfair", but provide no reasoning to show this. Yes, he can be searched. Yes, he can be recycled. Yes, he lets you use your toolbox of Gladiator Beasts effects. Now how about you give us one good reason to think that this is somehow a bad thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 okay good argument ---^ ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kale Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 people want it banned because you can use its ability to send 1 GB you just summoned back to your deck to Special Summon a more powerful one. though they want it banned there are a lot of other cards they could ban instead. it is the same thing as wanting to ban limit reverse to stop abuse with disk commander. XD i dont think it should be banned. just ban the other GB that they could get out with the card... ~K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 and if GB's were able to work in World's without Test Tiger' date=' why should Limiting it be a big deal anyway?[/quote'] GB's were also able to win Worlds without Great Shogun Shien. Let's Limit that too. Best Argument ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 and if GB's were able to work in World's without Test Tiger' date=' why should Limiting it be a big deal anyway?[/quote'] GB's were also able to win Worlds without Great Shogun Shien. Let's Limit that too. Best Argument ever Q4E, but I was thinking, wouldn't it be even better if he said CED-EOTE for example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archbaron Larry Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Eh, I personally hate this card, because I absolutely despise Lightsworns and Gladiator Beasts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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