God in the Universe?

[PrometheusMFD]

Yeah, it will definitely be tomorrow before I can actually pull the Article.

Stupid inefficient catalog system. X(

[HORUS]

Guys, the fact that Genesis is funked up further proves that the Bible is funked up (a.k.a. wrong).

 

The theory of evolution has nothing to do with humans being smart, you dense, irritating sheep.

Evolution doesn't only apply to humans. It applies to ALL LIVING THINGS. The theory of evolution is the theory that things adapted over millions of years from primitive forms to become what they are today (or die off). Those animals that adapt keep living. Only the 'stronger' creatures have the ability to adapt. Apes, being creatures with the ability to manipulate objects and use them as tools, eventually developed into humans.

 

Some animals, like crocodiles, have adapted (relatively) little due to the fact that they were already awesome enough to survive.

[Guest JoshIcy]

Energy has an infinite supply' date='[/quote']

That is where you are wrong. Energy is not infinite, it merely gets recycled into different forms (ie kinetic into heat)

 

"Different Forms". Thanks for disproving your own statement.

Also, stop spamming my thread. Or you all will get a nice little warning, (some a possible ban).

 

EDIT: Horus, you know for a fact. That knowing that everything is a theory, there is no wrong, nor right. Only perceptions of it. Stop being a twat and debate.

[HORUS]

Energy has an infinite supply' date='[/quote']

That is where you are wrong. Energy is not infinite, it merely gets recycled into different forms (ie kinetic into heat)

 

"Different Forms". Thanks for disproving your own statement.

Also, stop spamming my thread. Or you all will get a nice little warning, (some a possible ban).

 

EDIT: Horus, you know for a fact. That knowing that everything is a theory, there is no wrong, nor right. Only perceptions of it. Stop being a twat and debate.

 

Evolution isn't a theory, it's a very obvious truth.

[Guest JoshIcy]

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Energy has an infinite supply' date='[/quote']

That is where you are wrong. Energy is not infinite, it merely gets recycled into different forms (ie kinetic into heat)

 

"Different Forms". Thanks for disproving your own statement.

Also, stop spamming my thread. Or you all will get a nice little warning, (some a possible ban).

 

EDIT: Horus, you know for a fact. That knowing that everything is a theory, there is no wrong, nor right. Only perceptions of it. Stop being a twat and debate.

 

Evolution isn't a theory, it's a very obvious truth.

 

Based on observation. Observations don't always equal truth. And some "DNA" "evidence".

For, once a deity should or if it shows itself. Science goes out the window.

 

No it's not truth. But neither is religion.

Ooh and a little FYI, my thread isn't your own little vent area. Send that to PM. Back to my whole "Energy is God" where God is simply a name for a pseudo-deity. And Energy is what makes this "deity".

 

Or please, gtfo out of my thread.

[Father Wolf]

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Energy has an infinite supply' date='[/quote']

That is where you are wrong. Energy is not infinite, it merely gets recycled into different forms (ie kinetic into heat)

 

"Different Forms". Thanks for disproving your own statement.

Also, stop spamming my thread. Or you all will get a nice little warning, (some a possible ban).

 

EDIT: Horus, you know for a fact. That knowing that everything is a theory, there is no wrong, nor right. Only perceptions of it. Stop being a twat and debate.

 

Evolution isn't a theory, it's a very obvious truth.

 

[HORUS]

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Energy has an infinite supply' date='[/quote']

That is where you are wrong. Energy is not infinite, it merely gets recycled into different forms (ie kinetic into heat)

 

"Different Forms". Thanks for disproving your own statement.

Also, stop spamming my thread. Or you all will get a nice little warning, (some a possible ban).

 

EDIT: Horus, you know for a fact. That knowing that everything is a theory, there is no wrong, nor right. Only perceptions of it. Stop being a twat and debate.

 

Evolution isn't a theory, it's a very obvious truth.

 

 

Good argument.

[Static]

And' date=' by the way, intelligence-challenged members [s']of the mainstream media[/s], creationism and Darwinism are not "opposing but equally legitimate theories" to be treated as such. This flu virus didn't make the leap from pigs to humans because God felt like f*cking with Mexicans.

[HORUS]

Bill Maher is the definition of correct.

[Father Wolf]

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' pid='2250645' dateline='1243568185']

Energy has an infinite supply' date='[/quote']

That is where you are wrong. Energy is not infinite, it merely gets recycled into different forms (ie kinetic into heat)

 

"Different Forms". Thanks for disproving your own statement.

Also, stop spamming my thread. Or you all will get a nice little warning, (some a possible ban).

 

EDIT: Horus, you know for a fact. That knowing that everything is a theory, there is no wrong, nor right. Only perceptions of it. Stop being a twat and debate.

 

Evolution isn't a theory, it's a very obvious truth.

 

 

Good argument.

 

Evolution no matter how u put it; evolution has major gaps in the THEORY. If it wasn't a theory we would call it The Fact of Evolution and not the Theory of Evolution. OH SNAP!

 

This is not saying evolution is not true, because it is, but it doesn't explain everything in the universe.

[Static]

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' pid='2250645' dateline='1243568185']

Energy has an infinite supply' date='[/quote']

That is where you are wrong. Energy is not infinite, it merely gets recycled into different forms (ie kinetic into heat)

 

"Different Forms". Thanks for disproving your own statement.

Also, stop spamming my thread. Or you all will get a nice little warning, (some a possible ban).

 

EDIT: Horus, you know for a fact. That knowing that everything is a theory, there is no wrong, nor right. Only perceptions of it. Stop being a twat and debate.

 

Evolution isn't a theory, it's a very obvious truth.

 

 

Good argument.

 

Evolution no matter how u put it; evolution has major gaps in the THEORY. If it wasn't a theory we would call it The Fact of Evolution and not the Theory of Evolution. OH SNAP!

 

This is not saying evolution is not true, because it is, but it doesn't explain everything in the universe.

 

Creationism is literally a whim; Creationism is dismissible.

[Father Wolf]

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' pid='2250645' dateline='1243568185']

Energy has an infinite supply' date='[/quote']

That is where you are wrong. Energy is not infinite, it merely gets recycled into different forms (ie kinetic into heat)

 

"Different Forms". Thanks for disproving your own statement.

Also, stop spamming my thread. Or you all will get a nice little warning, (some a possible ban).

 

EDIT: Horus, you know for a fact. That knowing that everything is a theory, there is no wrong, nor right. Only perceptions of it. Stop being a twat and debate.

 

Evolution isn't a theory, it's a very obvious truth.

 

 

Good argument.

 

Evolution no matter how u put it; evolution has major gaps in the THEORY. If it wasn't a theory we would call it The Fact of Evolution and not the Theory of Evolution. OH SNAP!

 

This is not saying evolution is not true, because it is, but it doesn't explain everything in the universe.

 

Creationism is literally a whim; Creationism is dismissible.

 

The real answer here is everyone is wrong

[Guest JoshIcy]

^: Cept me ^.^

[HORUS]

What exactly are these 'gaps' in the theory of evolution?

 

There are definitely more gaps in creationism. A man zapped a dude onto Earth. Then he put him to sleep and took his damn rib out and it somehow became a woman. Then they had two sons. One of them died. The bloodline was carried on inexplicably and there was, of course, no inbreeding involved, which would have caused extreme retardation in offspring that would have lasted only 2 more generations, if not less. That was like 8000 years ago. Now there's 6 billion people on Earth. They all came from these 2 people, after only 8000 years.

 

Creationism is basically a magic event that happened within a few days that cannot be proved and has no evidence to support it.

 

In the theory of evolution, in the beginning there was no life, but after millions or billions of years, particles eventually joined together coincidentally and became a primitive single-celled organism. Over billions of years, these organisms began to change and adapt to their environment, and eventually they became what they are today, multicellular organisms. Some evolved after millions of years into primates, which eventually, AFTER MILLIONS OF YEARS, became humans. There are fossils to back this up, entire skeletons of primitive humans and apes, links in the bone structures of humans and apes (as well as many other mammals) due to the fact that they have a common ancestor.

 

Evolution is a process of slow gradual development with overwhelming evidence and could quite possibly be proved.

 

So where are the gaps?

[Guest JoshIcy]

And yet this topic IS NOT about evolution or creationism. But something totally different.

[Sunshine Jesse]

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' pid='2250645' dateline='1243568185']

Energy has an infinite supply' date='[/quote']

That is where you are wrong. Energy is not infinite, it merely gets recycled into different forms (ie kinetic into heat)

 

"Different Forms". Thanks for disproving your own statement.

Also, stop spamming my thread. Or you all will get a nice little warning, (some a possible ban).

 

EDIT: Horus, you know for a fact. That knowing that everything is a theory, there is no wrong, nor right. Only perceptions of it. Stop being a twat and debate.

 

Evolution isn't a theory, it's a very obvious truth.

 

 

Good argument.

 

Evolution no matter how u put it; evolution has major gaps in the THEORY. If it wasn't a theory we would call it The Fact of Evolution and not the Theory of Evolution. OH SNAP!

 

This is not saying evolution is not true, because it is, but it doesn't explain everything in the universe.

Theory of Grav-

*reads your sig*

[Static]

' pid='2250691' dateline='1243568990']

' pid='2250645' dateline='1243568185']

Energy has an infinite supply' date='[/quote']

That is where you are wrong. Energy is not infinite, it merely gets recycled into different forms (ie kinetic into heat)

 

"Different Forms". Thanks for disproving your own statement.

Also, stop spamming my thread. Or you all will get a nice little warning, (some a possible ban).

 

EDIT: Horus, you know for a fact. That knowing that everything is a theory, there is no wrong, nor right. Only perceptions of it. Stop being a twat and debate.

 

Evolution isn't a theory, it's a very obvious truth.

 

 

Good argument.

 

Evolution no matter how u put it; evolution has major gaps in the THEORY. If it wasn't a theory we would call it The Fact of Evolution and not the Theory of Evolution. OH SNAP!

 

This is not saying evolution is not true, because it is, but it doesn't explain everything in the universe.

 

Creationism is literally a whim; Creationism is dismissible.

 

The real answer here is everyone is wrong

 

[Willieh]

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What exactly are these 'gaps' in the theory of evolution?

 

There are definitely more gaps in creationism. A man zapped a dude onto Earth. Then he put him to sleep and took his damn rib out and it somehow became a woman. Then they had two sons. One of them died. The bloodline was carried on inexplicably and there was' date=' of course, no inbreeding involved, which would have caused extreme retardation in offspring that would have lasted only 2 more generations, if not less. That was like 8000 years ago. Now there's 6 billion people on Earth. They all came from these 2 people, after only 8000 years.

 

Creationism is basically a magic event that happened within a few days that cannot be proved and has no evidence to support it.

 

In the theory of evolution, in the beginning there was no life, but after millions or billions of years, particles eventually joined together coincidentally and became a primitive single-celled organism. Over billions of years, these organisms began to change and adapt to their environment, and eventually they became what they are today, multicellular organisms. Some evolved after millions of years into primates, which eventually, AFTER MILLIONS OF YEARS, became humans. There are fossils to back this up, entire skeletons of primitive humans and apes, links in the bone structures of humans and apes (as well as many other mammals) due to the fact that they have a common ancestor.

 

Evolution is a process of slow gradual development with overwhelming evidence and could quite possibly be proved.

 

So where are the gaps?

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Everyone's proud of you for being an atheist. I promise.

[HORUS]

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What exactly are these 'gaps' in the theory of evolution?

 

There are definitely more gaps in creationism. A man zapped a dude onto Earth. Then he put him to sleep and took his damn rib out and it somehow became a woman. Then they had two sons. One of them died. The bloodline was carried on inexplicably and there was' date=' of course, no inbreeding involved, which would have caused extreme retardation in offspring that would have lasted only 2 more generations, if not less. That was like 8000 years ago. Now there's 6 billion people on Earth. They all came from these 2 people, after only 8000 years.

 

Creationism is basically a magic event that happened within a few days that cannot be proved and has no evidence to support it.

 

In the theory of evolution, in the beginning there was no life, but after millions or billions of years, particles eventually joined together coincidentally and became a primitive single-celled organism. Over billions of years, these organisms began to change and adapt to their environment, and eventually they became what they are today, multicellular organisms. Some evolved after millions of years into primates, which eventually, AFTER MILLIONS OF YEARS, became humans. There are fossils to back this up, entire skeletons of primitive humans and apes, links in the bone structures of humans and apes (as well as many other mammals) due to the fact that they have a common ancestor.

 

Evolution is a process of slow gradual development with overwhelming evidence and could quite possibly be proved.

 

So where are the gaps?

[/quote']

 

Everyone's proud of you for being an atheist. I promise.

 

Was that supposed to be an insult or a mocking comment? I really don't understand.

 

In any case, I know that my mom, sister, brother, and best friends are proud to be atheists and are proud that I am as well.

 

 

On Friday I had an atheist party, actually. We watched Religulous and read passages from the Bible. Lolz ensued.

[Static]

^ Religulous was a terrible movie. Bill Maher is a funny guy, but he's the biggest douche bag on the planet. When a guy says "what I think isn't based on fact," you can't question that the way you would question someone saying, "evolution is wrong because the bible says god made the world." You can correct ignorance, but trying to correct a lifestyle choice isn't correcting, and it makes you into the biggest douche bag.

 

On topic: The universe is one giantic system. Everything in the universe is made up of virtually the same stuff in different forms, some of it we can see, some of it we can't. It is not conscious by any means, and we are not a special breed or anything of the sort.

 

There is no "Guy" in the universe, but the universe entirely is something great and beyond us. There is a "spiritual air" in world around us. Not souls per say, but a connection between man, being's, and the entire universe due to the nature of the universe. The ego can be overlooked, and one can stare into the objective eyes of the all seeing. (Metaphor)

 

There; I said it, now let's get this actually moving.

[HORUS]

^ Religulous was a terrible movie. Bill Maher is a funny guy' date=' but he's the biggest douche bag on the planet. When a guy says "what I think isn't based on fact," you can't question that the way you would question someone saying, "evolution is wrong because the bible says god made the world." You can correct ignorance, but trying to correct a lifestyle choice isn't correcting, and it makes you into the biggest douche bag.

 

On topic: The universe is one giantic system. Everything in the universe is made up of virtually the same stuff in different forms, some of it we can see, some of it we can't. It is not conscious by any means, and we are not a special breed or anything of the sort.

 

There is no "Guy" in the universe, but the universe entirely is something great and beyond us. There is a "spiritual air" in world around us. Not souls per say, but a connection between man, being's, and the entire universe due to the nature of the universe. The ego can be overlooked, and one can stare into the objective eyes of the all seeing. (Metaphor)

 

There; I said it, now let's get this actually moving.

[/quote']

 

Actually, the point of Religulous wasn't to convert religious people to atheism, but to get closet atheists to come out, which it did for 3 people I know. They realized that they really didn't believe all the religion crap and were just going to church and whatnot to appease their parents.

[Father Wolf]

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' pid='2250645' dateline='1243568185']

Energy has an infinite supply' date='[/quote']

That is where you are wrong. Energy is not infinite, it merely gets recycled into different forms (ie kinetic into heat)

 

"Different Forms". Thanks for disproving your own statement.

Also, stop spamming my thread. Or you all will get a nice little warning, (some a possible ban).

 

EDIT: Horus, you know for a fact. That knowing that everything is a theory, there is no wrong, nor right. Only perceptions of it. Stop being a twat and debate.

 

Evolution isn't a theory, it's a very obvious truth.

 

 

Good argument.

 

Evolution no matter how u put it; evolution has major gaps in the THEORY. If it wasn't a theory we would call it The Fact of Evolution and not the Theory of Evolution. OH SNAP!

 

This is not saying evolution is not true, because it is, but it doesn't explain everything in the universe.

Theory of Grav-

*reads your sig*

 

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u caught me[/align]

[Static]

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^ Religulous was a terrible movie. Bill Maher is a funny guy' date=' but he's the biggest douche bag on the planet. When a guy says "what I think isn't based on fact," you can't question that the way you would question someone saying, "evolution is wrong because the bible says god made the world." You can correct ignorance, but trying to correct a lifestyle choice isn't correcting, and it makes you into the biggest douche bag.

 

On topic: The universe is one giantic system. Everything in the universe is made up of virtually the same stuff in different forms, some of it we can see, some of it we can't. It is not conscious by any means, and we are not a special breed or anything of the sort.

 

There is no "Guy" in the universe, but the universe entirely is something great and beyond us. There is a "spiritual air" in world around us. Not souls per say, but a connection between man, being's, and the entire universe due to the nature of the universe. The ego can be overlooked, and one can stare into the objective eyes of the all seeing. (Metaphor)

 

There; I said it, now let's get this actually moving.

[/quote']

 

Actually, the point of Religulous wasn't to convert religious people to atheism, but to get closet atheists to come out, which it did for 3 people I know. They realized that they really didn't believe all the religion crap and were just going to church and whatnot to appease their parents.

 

I was referencing the way the movie was made, not its effect on the intended audience. The way he talked to the anti-zion jews was purely disrespectful, not only that, but the disrespect was towards a political viewpoint, and the movie was about religion. There's much more disrespect on Maher's part in the entire movie; albeit, when he asked questions and they were offended, that was perfectly acceptable, but when he's outright disrespecting people, I have no love for that.

[Santi :D]

It's an idea.

 

Who are we to say that it doesn't exist or that it does.

 

People assuming answers such as God exists and God doesn't exist realize that they could be wrong since THEY DON'T KNOW THE ACTUAL TRUTH, AND ASSUME THAT WHAT OTHER PPL SAID IS TRUE SO THAT AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME ITS TRUE TOO, IT COULD BE MADE UP.

[Static]

It's an idea.

 

Who are we to say that it doesn't exist or that it does.

 

People assuming answers such as God exists and God doesn't exist realize that they could be wrong since THEY DON'T KNOW THE ACTUAL TRUTH' date=' AND ASSUME THAT WHAT OTHER PPL SAID IS TRUE SO THAT AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME ITS TRUE TOO, IT COULD BE MADE UP.

[/quote']

 

 

Let's not assume; let's logically contemplate the universe and god.

 

 

 

What is god?

 

All knowing

Judgmental

Thinking

 

 

 

What is it that allows for thoughts to be created and exist?

 

Neuron Networking.

 

 

 

 

What would allow god to think, judge, and be all knowing?

 

One of two things:

 

Being a metaphor of something else or a forgery based on man's image

 

OR

 

being an Alien, a space giant of epic porportion's with the ability to bend time and space. We would call this a deity, and it would have its own body.

 

In Conclusion to Conscious God:

 

 

The concept of an all knowing, thinking, judging deity that interacts with human beings in death is an absurd conclusion to make based on the nature of the universe. I'm not going to say that having faith in such a thing is a bad thing, but if you look at things logically, then the concept of "Conscious God" should seem just as unrealistic to you as it does to me.

 

 

However, there is another meaning of the word "god." Common of many eastern religions is the idea of god as "The One," not a "thinking one" but just one and eternal.

 

 

What is this "god"?

 

The embodiment of all that is. No more, no less. It does not think or make decision's, it is just the universe under the title of god

 

 

Only a Solipsist could logically disagree with that idea of "god."

 

 

So in conclusion, it is much more realistic to believe that our universe is an interconnected energy network than it is to believe that god created and judges it.