CrabHelmet Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 meh... the card is alright. I have it in my YGO WCT 2004 Game. It's not as O/P as Mirror force/Raigeki' date=' but it should be limited or at least semi-limited.[/quote'] Prove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretAgentMan007 Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 It destroys your opponents most powerful monster. Unfair advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 So does Raigeki Break and sak armour do they need to be limited? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 It destroys your opponents most powerful monster. Unfair advantage. Wanna know what else destroys your opponent's most powerful monster? Sakuretsu ArmourDimensional PrisonSmashing Ground (sometimes)Lightning Vortex (and it kills everyone else too)Zaborg the Thunder MonarchCaius the Shadow MonarchRaiza the Storm MonarchKreis the Light MonarchExiled ForceBlue-Eyes White Dragon (your opponent's strongest monster probably still has less ATK than BEWD)Tribute to the DoomedOfferings to the DoomedThe Six Samurai - ZanjiEvolution BurstThousand KnivesBurst Stream of DestructionFreed the Brave WandererGatling DragonBarrel DragonBlowback DragonTime WizardSand GamblerElemental Hero Darkbright ...and so on. Let's Semi-Limit every last one of them, shall we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretAgentMan007 Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 It destroys your opponents most powerful monster. Unfair advantage. Wanna know what else destroys your opponent's most powerful monster? Sakuretsu ArmourDimensional PrisonSmashing Ground (sometimes)Lightning Vortex (and it kills everyone else too)Zaborg the Thunder MonarchCaius the Shadow MonarchRaiza the Storm MonarchKreis the Light MonarchExiled ForceBlue-Eyes White Dragon (your opponent's strongest monster probably still has less ATK than BEWD)Tribute to the DoomedOfferings to the DoomedThe Six Samurai - ZanjiEvolution BurstThousand KnivesBurst Stream of DestructionFreed the Brave WandererGatling DragonBarrel DragonBlowback DragonTime WizardSand GamblerElemental Hero Darkbright ...and so on. Let's Semi-Limit every last one of them' date=' shall we?[/quote']Yes, we shall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 It destroys your opponents most powerful monster. Unfair advantage. Wanna know what else destroys your opponent's most powerful monster? Sakuretsu ArmourDimensional PrisonSmashing Ground (sometimes)Lightning Vortex (and it kills everyone else too)Zaborg the Thunder MonarchCaius the Shadow MonarchRaiza the Storm MonarchKreis the Light MonarchExiled ForceBlue-Eyes White Dragon (your opponent's strongest monster probably still has less ATK than BEWD)Tribute to the DoomedOfferings to the DoomedThe Six Samurai - ZanjiEvolution BurstThousand KnivesBurst Stream of DestructionFreed the Brave WandererGatling DragonBarrel DragonBlowback DragonTime WizardSand GamblerElemental Hero Darkbright ...and so on. Let's Semi-Limit every last one of them' date=' shall we?[/quote']Yes, we shall. Mmmm, I concur. Good plan. Let's see what else could possibly destroy the opponent's strongest monster. FissureShield CrushRaigeki BreakPhoenix Wing Wind BlastOjamuscle (if the opponent's strongest monster is an Ojama)Shrink (makes it easy to run over the opponent's strongest monster)Rush Recklessly (makes it easy to run over the opponent's strongest monster)Rising Energy (makes it easy to run over the opponent's strongest monster)Roar of PrideMagical DimensionDarklord ZeratoDark Armed DragonJudgment DragoonDemise, King of ArmageddonFinal DestinyMega Ton Magical CannonOjama Delta Hurricane!!Des CroakingLevia-Dragon - DaedalusOcean Dragon Lord - Neo-DaedalusBrain Control (tribute)Enemy Controller (tribute)Mind Control (send to grave for Synchro Summon or Arcana Force EX or something)Soul ExchangeArcana Force EX - The Dark RulerSnipe HunterRaigekiRing of DestructionDark HoleTorrential TributeMirror ForceOrca Mega-Fortress of DarknessChaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the EndBlack Luster Soldier - Envoy of the BeginningChaos SorcererArchlord ZeratoAussa the Earth CharmerWynn the Wind CharmerHiita the Fire CharmerEria the Water CharmerDaruku the Dark CharmerSpiritual Wind Art - MiyabiIcarus AttackCrystal AbundanceOne-Shot BoosterRed Archfiend DragonStardust DragonMist WyrmBrionac, Dragon of the Ice BoundaryAlly of Justice - CatastorBlack Rose DragonDark End DragonSnipe HunterKahkki, Guerilla of Dark WorldGoldd, Wu-Lord of Dark WorldReign-Beaux, Overlord of Dark WorldDangerous Machine Type-6Destiny Hero - PlasmaElemental Hero Thunder GiantElemental Hero Plasma ViceElemental Hero Necroid ShamanElemental Hero GaiaRiryokuEvil Hero Lightning GolemElemental Hero Chaos NeosElemental Hero Magma NeosElemental Hero Glow NeosElemental Hero Grand NeosNeo-Spacian Grand MoleRainbow NeosElemental Hero Divine NeosWrath of NeosElemental Hero Neo-BubblemanClay ChargeEdge HammerHero CounterattackHero BlastDestiny End DragoonDestiny Hero - Fear Monger (temporary)D - CounterCyber Laser DragonArmored CybernCybernetic Hidden TechnologyTragedySoul TakerGearfried the SwordmasterVanquishing LightCelestia, Lightsworn AngelEhren, Lightsworn MonkRyko, Lightsworn HunterOld Vindictive MagicianNight AssailantMan-Eater BugNobleman-Eater BugZone EaterGladiator Beast MurmilloGladiator Beast GyzarusGladiator Beast War ChariotDivine WrathBatteryman Industrial StrengthShort CircuitDetonator Circle "A"Alien Hypno (tribute)Interplanetary Invader "A" (tribute)Brainwashing Beam (tribute)Mass Hypnosis (tribute)Cell Explosion VirusFroggy ForcefieldDummy GolemD.D. Warrior LadyD.D. WarriorD.D. AssailantThe Last Warrior from Another Planet There's more, but I think those should be sufficient to prove my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
advicedog Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 Let's see what else could possibly destroy the opponent's strongest monster. FissureDestiny Hero - Fear Monger (temporary)I'm sure you meant Hammer Shot and Destiny Hero - Doom Lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 Let's see what else could possibly destroy the opponent's strongest monster. FissureDestiny Hero - Fear Monger (temporary)I'm sure you meant Hammer Shot and Destiny Hero - Doom Lord. I did mean Doom Lord, but I also meant Fissure; the opponent might only have one monster. I think I forgot Hammer Shot. >_> But the point is that you just need to glance at the list to see that Semi-Limiting them all is pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 situational, and non chainable. bad card is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
advicedog Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 Yes, God forbid you use something other than your strongest monster to destroy your opponent's. Suddenly I feel trolled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 yes, god forbid people create threads about cards that has but two real responces. good card is good. and good card is goodQ4E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
advicedog Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 That last post was a reply to Crab, not you. Anyway, I disagree with you. It's a trap that takes out your opponent's strongest monster, even if they don't attack with it. This > Sakuretsu, but not by a long shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 That last post was a reply to Crab' date=' not you. Anyway, I disagree with you. It's a trap that takes out your opponent's strongest monster, even if they don't attack with it. This > Sakuretsu, but not by a long shot.[/quote'] In the vast majority of cases, they will attack with it, so Saku has the advantage of giving you a choice. The only nice thing about this is that it doesn't target. Dimensional Prison is better than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 So attacking is situational, now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 Wasn't it all ways? If i had Labyrinth wall face up, in what situation would you attack it with Giga-Tech Wolf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 So attacking is situational' date=' now?[/quote'] Attacking is not situational (although non-chainability is a disadvantage). However, only by situational circumstances - the opponent's monster can't be targeted by Traps but can be affected by traps that don't target, or the opponent has both Cliff the Trap Remover and Don Zaloog on the field - would this card be more useful than Saku/D-Prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 So attacking is situational' date=' now?[/quote'] Attacking is not situational (although non-chainability is a disadvantage). However, only by situational circumstances - the opponent's monster can't be targeted by Traps but can be affected by traps that don't target, or the opponent has both Cliff the Trap Remover and Don Zaloog on the field - would this card be more useful than Saku/D-Prison. I was actually wanting some of those people who posted "Non-chainable and situational. Bad card, etc..." to respond. I'm not convinced that they meant what you posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 ^Like me? I guess i forgot my [/sarcasm] again. This card is usable, but better cards exist. I say things like that because people often feel as though good cards need to be discussed as if something new and amazing happened to the card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
advicedog Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 Wasn't it all ways? If i had Labyrinth wall face up' date=' in what situation would you attack it with Giga-Tech Wolf?[/quote']In the situation that it was in attack position and you had an empty back row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 ^So attacking is situational than? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
advicedog Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 ^So attacking is situational than?About as situational as drawing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 I don't run Giga-Tech Wolf, so I wouldn't have it on the field. I'd have Zanji and Grandmaster out instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
advicedog Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 I don't run Giga-Tech Wolf' date=' so I wouldn't have it on the field. I'd have Zanji and Grandmaster out instead.[/quote']I'll go out on a limb and say Nate doesn't run a Labyrinth Wall either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 I don't run Giga-Tech Wolf' date=' so I wouldn't have it on the field. I'd have Zanji and Grandmaster out instead.[/quote']I'll go out on a limb and say Nate doesn't run a Labyrinth Wall either. Then I guess his example was retarded, wasn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 @ advicedog: great! Because when you have 0 cards left in your deck, you can just situationaly choose not to draw during your normal draw phase. ^_^ That's great to know. All im saying is nobody just attacks every turn, just because they can. If that was the case, would all out attacks needed existence? @ Crab: That's the best situation possible, but if you only had one of those monsters, would you attack my wall, assuming it was in defense mode? @ Both: Did i not post my Lab deck? Its a fun little deck. 3x Giant Rat.3x Labyrinth wall3x Stumbling31x Filler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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