Darkerai Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 Recently I have been thinking about how humanity could truely be advanced...I've started with a grand machine in which certain cogs shall cause humanity to continue on without being tied down. Population-the idea is to find the ideal population to survive yet avoid overcrowding and supply problems. Currently it would be more in the direction of most large countries enabling population control like China. Poverty in third world countries and even in super powers must be overcome, there are two options (grim version):select a certain amount of wealth a person must have in order to live otherwise a mercy killing is inacted in order to keep population low. (less grim version):higher taxation on the rich and slightly higher taxation on the middle class in order to reduce poverty by then dispersing the money towards pork barrel projects in various third world countries in order to provide jobs. Crime-a form of population control and thus we should not have the goal of eradicating crime unless there is a better population control method then killing out of greed and maiming and causing people to become deppressed in order to instill also a sense of hoplessness so that their is a higher chance for suicide(yes grim but our population is getting out of hand). The loss of sentiment-keeping out dated species is a waste of time and resources. What has it accomplished? what has a preservation of culture done for the hungry man lying in the streets? As you can see I don't realy have much but I am asking for you people to try to devolp a perfect machine that cannot fail and causes the human race to evolve further in technology. Edit:Added to population to include third world poverty Edit: I have decided that it was complete and utter stupidity to even try to step back and see all the world s problems, that even in general thought without the concern of ever having it fullly relised is like incuring the wrath of hell as far as mental health...the world will always have problems and I am now taking the idea of labeling anyone who thinls they have any grasp on their on reality to be just insane and foolish. If anyone currently has the idea of anarchy please remember that we advanced because of government and I was complete scum for even thinking of these things(No that wasn't some stupid atempt for attention I think anyone trying to save the world is scum). I am disgusted by myself and will no longer be looking at this topic but everyone is welcome to discus what you could do to be helpful in todays sociaty without killing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JG. Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 Umm... we aren't all science nerds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkerai Posted April 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 Umm... we aren't all science nerds... It doesn't take a science nerd to see the world burning around us and that we need to advance instead of being held up in the foolishness of the others around them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Requiem Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 Well what you are trying to think of is almost impossible. We have stupid leaders who try to take care of their needs. Also there are many other factors you need to think about also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkerai Posted April 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 Well what you are trying to think of is almost impossible. We have stupid leaders who try to take care of their needs. Also there are many other factors you need to think about also. Yes are leaders are usually corrupt fools and this discusion will amount to nothing but at the very least all those corrupt fools will be burning at the end of the world and they will see something like this and relise how pathetic there rush for power is. Also I know there are many other factors left anf thats why I'm hoping some others might actualy try to think of these factors, bring them up and try to solve them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Requiem Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 Well one factor that falls under what you put up there is poverty. Usually in third world countries many poor people try to have many kids to work and make money hoping to have more then enough to survive. That also needs to be in population control, if you can help the poor then maybe you can achieve less population. Keeping a stable population also might stop crime, but that is one thing that is near impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JoshIcy Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 Emotions and those quirks that will eventually be our downfall is what makes us all Human.True we are all animals, but that is just a classification. Not based on much else... And to that end, I will happily see mankind fall for being itself.Sentimental emotions, and erratic behavior and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2sick4u Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 Recently I have been thinking about how humanity could truely be advanced...I've started with a grand machine in which certain cogs shall cause humanity to continue on without being tied down. You do know COGS means cost of goods sold' date=' right? Not like, clogs as you seemed to be inferring.[/i'] Population-the idea is to find the ideal population to survive yet avoid overcrowding and supply problems. Currently it would be more in the direction of most large countries enabling population control like China. Basically, un-selective genocide until a certain population cap is reached? Theoretically, yes, it'd be grand for the outcome of which would be prosperous. However, in all practicality, one cannot cause a worldwide rally to instruct genocide if the security of your own commerce isn't guaranteed. It's illogical despite it's logical motive. Crime-a form of population control and thus we should not have the goal of eradicating crime unless there is a better population control method then killing out of greed and maiming and causing people to become deppressed in order to instill also a sense of hoplessness so that their is a higher chance for suicide(yes grim but our population is getting out of hand). What the hell are you even talking about? There's an easier method of population contol. Ebola Virus. Sterilization. It's extremely more practical than some sort of psychological warfare through social ill-will. There isn't a necessity for crime in a stable (That is, inhumane.) society anyway, my good sir. The loss of sentiment-keeping out dated species is a waste of time and resources. What has it accomplished? what has a preservation of culture done for the hungry man lying in the streets? Didn't you just say that the hungry man will do more good dead than alive? Therefore, the preservation of the specie is in ties to your original argument as it deprives the under-class of resource. Make up your mind. Honestly. As you can see I don't realy have much but I am asking for you people to try to devolp a perfect machine that cannot fail and causes the human race to evolve further in technology. 'A perfect machine.' The destructive aspect to your plan is that the human race will continue to 'fail' so long as independent thoughts and goals are in mind. As such, one man firing a thousand to save himself a million annually. As apposed to hiring another thousand, even if it leaves him with 'only' million annually. So long as a capitalistic off mind-set is continuously used, society cannot advance, in my own opinion, successfully. On that note, it will continue to advance on a varied individual level, of course, just nothing of a mass-nature. Basically, we live for wants, not needs. When we should ideally be doing the opposite. However, doing such is uncharacteristically inconsistent for our race. People don't give a sheet about the human race evolving, my good sir. They only give a sh-t about continuing to live in avoidance of poverty and total self-deprivation, when it all comes down to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkerai Posted April 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 Emotions and those quirks that will eventually be our downfall is what makes us all Human.True we are all animals' date=' but that is just a classification. Not based on much else... And to that end, I will happily see mankind fall for being itself.Sentimental emotions, and erratic behavior and all.[/quote'] Yes but what's the point of being human? Oh and updated cogs to include third world poverty Edit: Oh and 2sick4u sorry about the misuse of COGS, will fix later(2:56AM!) My plan is not for everyone to die...just for alot of uneeded people to die in the least painful way possible. @IcyBlue:I am in no way planning on inacting this in any way it is only theoretical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JoshIcy Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 Emotions and those quirks that will eventually be our downfall is what makes us all Human.True we are all animals' date=' but that is just a classification. Not based on much else... And to that end, I will happily see mankind fall for being itself.Sentimental emotions, and erratic behavior and all.[/quote'] Yes but what's the point of being human? You were born human. Might as well embrace it all. And if you don't like it. You can still act on being human, because of the choice factor. Go ahead and leave society, try and aim for your goals outside of it. And leave the rest of us alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2sick4u Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 Oh and 2sick4u sorry about the misuse of COGS' date=' will fix later(2:56AM!) My plan is not for everyone to die...just for alot of uneeded people to die in the least painful way possible.[/quote'] Haha. It's okay. Well then. On the note of your plan, describe to me what makes a member of society no longer needed in your view. I'm slightly interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 Recently I have been thinking about how humanity could truely be advanced...I've started with a grand machine in which certain cogs shall cause humanity to continue on without being tied down. Fine' date=' I'll humor you.[/b'] Population-the idea is to find the ideal population to survive yet avoid overcrowding and supply problems. Currently it would be more in the direction of most large countries enabling population control like China. Poverty in third world countries and even in super powers must be overcome, there are two options wow Sherlock. You thought of that all by yourself? Shame this is as obvious as the fact that apple grows on apple trees. Excess in population means a waste of natural resources on people not deserving it. (grim version):select a certain amount of wealth a person must have in order to live otherwise a mercy killing is inacted in order to keep population low. (less grim version):higher taxation on the rich and slightly higher taxation on the middle class in order to reduce poverty by then dispersing the money towards pork barrel projects in various third world countries in order to provide jobs. Lemme get this straight. You want to eithera) Kill half the earth's population based on wealth instead of actual reasons orb) Make everybody poor which changes nothing. Your basing your opinions on wealth. Wealth which holds no meaning or significance, we can just turn the world into a communist "perfect" world and technically need no money. We can force birth limits on people and control the population. I suggest yopu think what you suggested again, since it doesn't help. Crime-a form of population control and thus we should not have the goal of eradicating crime unless there is a better population control method then killing out of greed and maiming and causing people to become deppressed in order to instill also a sense of hoplessness so that their is a higher chance for suicide(yes grim but our population is getting out of hand). lolwut? And after half the population suicides or get murdered and we reach that perfect level everything will turn out peachy? Get real. The loss of sentiment-keeping out dated species is a waste of time and resources. What has it accomplished? what has a preservation of culture done for the hungry man lying in the streets? Bigger picture please. Religion is the only reason were here. What stopped people from killing each other? God's "presence". What made people shake hands and work together? God's "presence". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkerai Posted April 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 Oh and 2sick4u sorry about the misuse of COGS' date=' will fix later(2:56AM!) My plan is not for everyone to die...just for alot of uneeded people to die in the least painful way possible.[/quote'] Haha. It's okay. Well then. On the note of your plan, describe to me what makes a member of society no longer needed in your view. I'm slightly interested. After they can no longer contribute to sociaty through physical work or intelligent thought. @ Cyber Altair the higher taxation method was not ment to be ridicoulusly high so that the rich become middle class and the middle class become poor and besides I was leaning towards the grim version and you know what the plan isn't for the world to become peachy but for it to get to a state were it survives and can somewhat evolve and continue its existense. Well anyway the point was for this to be fluid in that people improve upon and such so if it sucks right now OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 The loss of sentiment-keeping out dated species is a waste of time and resources. What has it accomplished? what has a preservation of culture done for the hungry man lying in the streets?Have you heard of the saying; "One who forgets history is doomed to repeat it." Also in certains deprived countries ones culture is a major factor in lifting spirits. Even if it does cause diversity which sometimes can be a bad thing. This is vital and important for everyone to value others cultures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 "The Perfect Machine" isn't Anarchy. It's absolute power. No world can ever be perfect, it can only be near-perfect. Read "1984" by George Orwell, that is the outcome of a supposedly "perfect" world. If the world was "perfect" the government would control EVERY movement and ruthlessly sterilize any "undesirables". It would be Nazi-Esque, the ultimate fascist scheme. The truly terrible thing about far-left politics is that no one can ever be equal. And that pains Communists like me oh so deeply. And what makes it worse, is that Fascism is all too possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 I think that what you mean is a "perfect world with our population" If we had very few people and lived in small villages there would be no need for government. Well any kind of government we use today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 @ Cyber Altair the higher taxation method was not ment to be ridicoulusly high so that the rich become middle class and the middle class become poor and besides I was leaning towards the grim version and you know what the plan isn't for the world to become peachy but for it to get to a state were it survives and can somewhat evolve and continue its existense. Well anyway the point was for this to be fluid in that people improve upon and such so if it sucks right now OK. Still makes no sense, if you mean that everyone will be around the same level of wealth then it's useless cause the value of money will increase anyway meaning even my wealth might be reduced to say 2000$ that 2000$ will be worth 40000$ or so. Get the idea? Also even if the government strips money from people, make them equal without the change in money value it still makes no significant change. Also what's the point of survival if my life would suck? It isn't about living so people after me can live. It's about living today. I don't mean we should spoil the earth today because we don't care about tomorrow but we shouldn't kill half the world so the other half can live on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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