HORUS Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Everyone who posts in this topic is gay. Prove me wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man0waR Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 cuz your probablly a Russian communist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amethyst Phoenix Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 The problem with communism: Eventually, you always run out of other people's money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JoshIcy Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Because I said so.Fact: This forum is not the place for debates. Please wait for the moderation Queue to accept your debate in the Debate Section like any other member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tkill93 Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 ' pid='2192009' dateline='1242684850']I'm a communist. Tell me why I am wrong. Because the American government says so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted May 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 The problem with communism: Eventually' date=' you always run out of other people's money.[/quote'] What is this 'money' you speak of? Icy, this isn't a debate, I just want to see how ignorant everyone is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecoboy1324 Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Communism in theory is a very good idea but unfortunately it fails in practice. Reason why one man can not have absoulte control of a government especially a communist government as men who take power even for the right reasons are corruptible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man0waR Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 ' pid='2192009' dateline='1242684850']I'm a communist. Tell me why I am wrong. Because Obama says so.Fixd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JoshIcy Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 ' pid='2192053' dateline='1242685207']The problem with communism: Eventually' date=' you always run out of other people's money.[/quote'] What is this 'money' you speak of? Icy, this isn't a debate, I just want to see how ignorant everyone is. The nature can very quickly become a debate/flame war. Don't kid me there.It's safer in debates than here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted May 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Communism in theory is a very good idea but unfortunately it fails in practice. Reason why one man can not have absoulte control of a government especially a communist government as men who take power even for the right reasons are corruptible Wait, what government? I think you guys have it all wrong. A purely communist state doesn't have a government, or money, or private property. Icy, then please move it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecoboy1324 Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 ' pid='2192080' dateline='1242685476']Communism in theory is a very good idea but unfortunately it fails in practice. Reason why one man can not have absoulte control of a government especially a communist government as men who take power even for the right reasons are corruptible Wait' date=' what government? I think you guys have it all wrong. A purely communist state doesn't have a government, or money, or private property. Icy, then please move it.[/quote']What i mean is the government preceding the pure communist state Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amethyst Phoenix Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Currency, cash, etc. You need it to run a country if you plan to have any trade with other countries. I don't think any important ones still use the barter system >_> Communism is also impossible to achieve, because you need a leader, and said leader always ends up manipulating everyone else and getting more etc. Communism is also stupid because it takes things from the smart people that actually work hard and gives it to the idiotic lazy people. It's like welfare (which is a stupid idea to begin with) on steroids. funk the poor, the lazy, and those who think they're entitled to extra resources because they're a member of a minority. They can get off their asses and turn their lives around themselves. Communism also makes everyone feel worthless because individual achievements are downplayed. It's essentially devolving into a hive mindset. Fitting that the people who champion it are generally no better than insects. So I'm sorry if I'm being ignorant for not sending you a welfare check because you refuse to work for anything in your pathetic life. I'm sorry that I'm ignorant for laughing at your kindergarten level concept of fairness and "either everyone has something or nobody does because the people without would feel bad" bullshit philosophy. And I'm really sorry that you feel bad because other people can have better things than you. To make it all up, I'll rent you a room at a hotel so you can go cry in it. Now stfu, gtfo, and go do something with your life for once >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted May 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 ' pid='2192080' dateline='1242685476']Communism in theory is a very good idea but unfortunately it fails in practice. Reason why one man can not have absoulte control of a government especially a communist government as men who take power even for the right reasons are corruptible Wait' date=' what government? I think you guys have it all wrong. A purely communist state doesn't have a government, or money, or private property. Icy, then please move it.[/quote']What i mean is the government preceding the pure communist state And what does that have to do with Communism? Amethyst Phoenix: In this version of communism, there is one world communist state (No other states). There is no leader. Everyone is responsible for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JoshIcy Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 So we're back to pre-kings days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecoboy1324 Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 ' pid='2192129' dateline='1242685852']' pid='2192080' dateline='1242685476']Communism in theory is a very good idea but unfortunately it fails in practice. Reason why one man can not have absoulte control of a government especially a communist government as men who take power even for the right reasons are corruptible Wait' date=' what government? I think you guys have it all wrong. A purely communist state doesn't have a government, or money, or private property. Icy, then please move it.[/quote']What i mean is the government preceding the pure communist state And what does that have to do with Communism? Amethyst Phoenix: In this version of communism, there is one world communist state (No other states). There is no leader. Everyone is responsible for themselves.Kramer this is inpoesible to achieve As on whould at the same time Take over the world and kill those that opposed you which whould be everybody it cant be done unless the world came peacefully into this order and even then a vast majority whould have to be REeducated Besides the world your describing is a anarcial world which is the exact opposite of Communism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Communism looked good on paper, but it was played out incorrectly. First of all, I believe that people should be able to work to earn their money. In other words, the harder you work, the more money you earn. Communism as it is now doesn't give any freedom, either. You can't even leave your own country. If Communism had been played out the way it was intended to be, things might be different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arekku_Koro Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Because capitalism seems to last longer in governments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amethyst Phoenix Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 ' pid='2192129' dateline='1242685852']' pid='2192080' dateline='1242685476']Communism in theory is a very good idea but unfortunately it fails in practice. Reason why one man can not have absoulte control of a government especially a communist government as men who take power even for the right reasons are corruptible Wait' date=' what government? I think you guys have it all wrong. A purely communist state doesn't have a government, or money, or private property. Icy, then please move it.[/quote']What i mean is the government preceding the pure communist state And what does that have to do with Communism? Amethyst Phoenix: In this version of communism, there is one world communist state (No other states). There is no leader. Everyone is responsible for themselves. That would be anarchy then. Nothing would get done. Plus, it would be impossible to attain because every country wouldn't agree to such a stupid system. You're proposing a system that would be impossible to implement and incredibly flawed even it it was. Also, all my other points are still valid with a no leader scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 1. As mentioned somewhere above me, individual achievements are downplayed, which would retard advancement in technology. 2. Because I'm funking upper-middle class, and I like my current life style. The poor can go shove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted May 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 I didn't ask you morons whether communism would work or not. I asked why communism was wrong, as in immoral. Not why it's impossible. Why it's wrong. Seriously, what is wrong with a fair, equal, productive, responsible, classless society? I don't understand. People used to, and still do, call people 'communist' as an insult that denotes an immoral person. I'm having a hard time understanding how a person who shares and is responsible and productive is immoral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Culpa Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 The problem with communism: Eventually' date=' you always run out of other people's money.[/quote']Socialism uses other people's money. Not Communism. Communism in theory is a very good idea but unfortunately it fails in practice. Reason why one man can not have absoulte control of a government especially a communist government as men who take power even for the right reasons are corruptible. Dictatorship. But... there is nothing wrong with Communists. Americans just tend to stereotype people because of something other people did. Like saying "All black people are famous because Obama is famous." See, that is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tefached Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 commies failed because America pwns i know thats ignorant, but theres not much else to say that hasn't already been said. communism failed in practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Lord Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 ' pid='2192053' dateline='1242685207'] Icy' date=' this isn't a debate, I just want to see how ignorant everyone is.[/quote'] Then just look in the mirror, dumbass. We're not ignorant, we just have different beliefs and morals than you. Don't need to call us dumbass, dumbass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 ' pid='2193868' dateline='1242716618']I didn't ask you morons whether communism would work or not. I asked why communism was wrong' date=' as in immoral. Not why it's impossible. Why it's wrong. Seriously, what is wrong with a fair, equal, productive, responsible, classless society? I don't understand. People used to, and still do, call people 'communist' as an insult that denotes an immoral person. I'm having a hard time understanding how a person who shares and is responsible and productive is immoral.[/quote'] Who the hell ever said Communism was immoral? That's funking retarded. People are still deathly afraid of communism because for about a decade all the media did was drill into the American mind that Communism was synonymous with "Satan", and should be stopped at all costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 I don't recall saying Communism was wrong; I said the way they went about it was wrong. It looked good on paper, but when it was "acted out" - if you will - there were many mistakes. The theory is good, but the way it was played out is just ridiculous. Especially the whole "not being able to leave your country" thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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