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Icy' date=' this isn't a debate, I just want to see how ignorant everyone is.

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Then just look in the mirror, dumbass.

We're not ignorant, we just have different beliefs and morals than you. Don't need to call us dumbass, dumbass.

 

And I never did call you a dumbass.

 

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I didn't ask you morons whether communism would work or not. I asked why communism was wrong' date=' as in immoral. Not why it's impossible. Why it's wrong. Seriously, what is wrong with a fair, equal, productive, responsible, classless society? I don't understand.

 

People used to, and still do, call people 'communist' as an insult that denotes an immoral person. I'm having a hard time understanding how a person who shares and is responsible and productive is immoral.

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Who the hell ever said Communism was immoral? That's f***ing retarded. People are still deathly afraid of communism because for about a decade all the media did was drill into the American mind that Communism was synonymous with "Satan", and should be stopped at all costs.

 

Plenty of people have.

 

This is proof that the media is retarded.

 

 

Wait, Satan is bad too now?

 

I don't recall saying Communism was wrong; I said the way they went about it was wrong. It looked good on paper' date=' but when it was "acted out" - if you will - there were many mistakes.

 

The theory is good, but the way it was played out is just ridiculous. Especially the whole "not being able to leave your country" thing.

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I'm not talking about Soviet "communism", which is actually totalitarian socialism. I'm talking about communism.

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Icy' date=' this isn't a debate, I just want to see how ignorant everyone is.

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Then just look in the mirror, dumbass.

We're not ignorant, we just have different beliefs and morals than you. Don't need to call us dumbass, dumbass.

 

And I never did call you a dumbass.

 

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I didn't ask you morons whether communism would work or not. I asked why communism was wrong' date=' as in immoral. Not why it's impossible. Why it's wrong. Seriously, what is wrong with a fair, equal, productive, responsible, classless society? I don't understand.

 

People used to, and still do, call people 'communist' as an insult that denotes an immoral person. I'm having a hard time understanding how a person who shares and is responsible and productive is immoral.

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Who the hell ever said Communism was immoral? That's f***ing retarded. People are still deathly afraid of communism because for about a decade all the media did was drill into the American mind that Communism was synonymous with "Satan", and should be stopped at all costs.

 

Plenty of people have.

 

This is proof that the media is retarded.

 

 

Wait, Satan is bad too now?

 

I don't recall saying Communism was wrong; I said the way they went about it was wrong. It looked good on paper' date=' but when it was "acted out" - if you will - there were many mistakes.

 

The theory is good, but the way it was played out is just ridiculous. Especially the whole "not being able to leave your country" thing.

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I'm not talking about Soviet "communism", which is actually totalitarian socialism. I'm talking about communism.

 

Still, though, people should be able to earn more money if they want to.

 

Communism prevents that.

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Icy' date=' this isn't a debate, I just want to see how ignorant everyone is.

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Then just look in the mirror, dumbass.

We're not ignorant, we just have different beliefs and morals than you. Don't need to call us dumbass, dumbass.

 

And I never did call you a dumbass.

 

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I didn't ask you morons whether communism would work or not. I asked why communism was wrong' date=' as in immoral. Not why it's impossible. Why it's wrong. Seriously, what is wrong with a fair, equal, productive, responsible, classless society? I don't understand.

 

People used to, and still do, call people 'communist' as an insult that denotes an immoral person. I'm having a hard time understanding how a person who shares and is responsible and productive is immoral.

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Who the hell ever said Communism was immoral? That's f***ing retarded. People are still deathly afraid of communism because for about a decade all the media did was drill into the American mind that Communism was synonymous with "Satan", and should be stopped at all costs.

 

Plenty of people have.

 

This is proof that the media is retarded.

 

 

Wait, Satan is bad too now?

 

I don't recall saying Communism was wrong; I said the way they went about it was wrong. It looked good on paper' date=' but when it was "acted out" - if you will - there were many mistakes.

 

The theory is good, but the way it was played out is just ridiculous. Especially the whole "not being able to leave your country" thing.

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I'm not talking about Soviet "communism", which is actually totalitarian socialism. I'm talking about communism.

 

Still, though, people should be able to earn more money if they want to.

 

Communism prevents that.

 

What use is money in a system that has no private property?

 

 

 

Dweller, utilitarianism isn't a governmental structure or economic structure. It's a philosophy.

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Dweller' date=' utilitarianism isn't a governmental structure or economic structure. It's a philosophy.

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You failed to see the point...

I was agreeing with you Horus! :P

(Never mind)

 

Whether you agree with me or not, you can't compare governmental and economic structures to reasoning philosophies.

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Communism in theory is a very good idea but unfortunately it fails in practice. Reason why one man can not have absoulte control of a government especially a communist government as men who take power even for the right reasons are corruptible.

Actually this goes against human nature.

 

Humans desire to be led by others, while communism believes that there need not be leaders or the government of any form. You see, the contradiction. Also, people are greedy and communism forces the people to be equal of wealth.

 

So far, "communist" regimes are wrong in their methods. Like North Korea, USSR or China where they revere their leaders to the extend of a god. And China and modern Communist states by opening up their market.

 

In fact, there is never a true communist state in history.

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I don't know if you were just doing it to prove a point' date=' but here you state that you are communist yet in another thread you stated that you admire Hitler. Explain?

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Communism and Fascism never mix well...

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A debate about communism? This will take a while.

 

Communism was a concept created by Karl Marx while he was incacerated (much like Hitler and Mein Kompf). It centers around worker ownership of a company (rather than CEO ownership), but government control over the means of production to regulate things. Wages are all the same, and prices are regulated by the government.

 

A good policy on paper where the human element is removed.

 

But it all went to hell. People in the government (Stalin, Lenin, Putin) used these new regulations to take control of peoples lives. More than that, they became so paranoid that someone could usurp them from their thrones that they rewarded turning in "suspects", regardless if there was evidence or not. This resulted in many people being executed.

 

Life in communist nations is very poor and fear-riddled. It even got to a point in Berlin that the Communist side had to build a wall to keep thier citizens in. Communism doesn't work too well.

 

Also, even though communism and fascism are nemeses, they are still similar policies.

(From leftist policies to right policies)

Fascism, Communism, Socialism, Democarcy, Moderate, Republic, Conservatism, Federalism, Libertarian, Anarchy

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I don't know if you were just doing it to prove a point' date=' but here you state that you are communist yet in another thread you stated that you admire Hitler. Explain?

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I am an Anarcho-Communist, but despite being an extreme leftist, I still admire Hitler because he set up one of the most efficient governments in history and was just plain funking awesome.

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I don't know if you were just doing it to prove a point' date=' but here you state that you are communist yet in another thread you stated that you admire Hitler. Explain?

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I am an Anarcho-Communist, but despite being an extreme leftist, I still admire Hitler because he set up one of the most efficient governments in history and was just plain f***ing awesome.

 

Ok yes he did but look at how he accomplished it

Murder Torture Genocide Hitler killed millions of people for no reason other then he dint like them. And when push comes to shove he dint stand up for his beliefs and took the easy way out... Not exactly a great leader

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I don't know if you were just doing it to prove a point' date=' but here you state that you are communist yet in another thread you stated that you admire Hitler. Explain?

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I am an Anarcho-Communist, but despite being an extreme leftist, I still admire Hitler because he set up one of the most efficient governments in history and was just plain f***ing awesome.

 

Ok yes he did but look at how he accomplished it

Murder Torture Genocide Hitler killed millions of people for no reason other then he dint like them. And when push comes to shove he dint stand up for his beliefs and took the easy way out... Not exactly a great leader

 

Not to mention he was insane and still a great tactician. There is a thread about hitler somewhere.

Also, there is a reason they call it Right Wing.

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I don't know if you were just doing it to prove a point' date=' but here you state that you are communist yet in another thread you stated that you admire Hitler. Explain?

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I am an Anarcho-Communist, but despite being an extreme leftist, I still admire Hitler because he set up one of the most efficient governments in history and was just plain f***ing awesome.

 

Ok yes he did but look at how he accomplished it

Murder Torture Genocide Hitler killed millions of people for no reason other then he dint like them. And when push comes to shove he dint stand up for his beliefs and took the easy way out... Not exactly a great leader

 

Not to mention he was insane and still a great tactician. There is a thread about hitler somewhere.

Also, there is a reason they call it Right Wing.

 

Ecoboy, Hitler went about it in the right way.

 

He was not insane.

 

It astonishes me how deluded people are about Hitler and communism.

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I don't know if you were just doing it to prove a point' date=' but here you state that you are communist yet in another thread you stated that you admire Hitler. Explain?

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I am an Anarcho-Communist, but despite being an extreme leftist, I still admire Hitler because he set up one of the most efficient governments in history and was just plain f***ing awesome.

 

Ok yes he did but look at how he accomplished it

Murder Torture Genocide Hitler killed millions of people for no reason other then he dint like them. And when push comes to shove he dint stand up for his beliefs and took the easy way out... Not exactly a great leader

 

Not to mention he was insane and still a great tactician. There is a thread about hitler somewhere.

Also, there is a reason they call it Right Wing.

 

Ecoboy, Hitler went about it in the right way.

 

He was not insane.

 

It astonishes me how deluded people are about Hitler and communism.

 

Hitler did go legally insane during the later years of the war. He gave commands to Commanders that were long dead, he was terribly paranoid, and showed signs of schitzophrenia around his death.

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