Willieh Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 I think that it isn't important. We're all going to die. It's not like you can help your creed. Any god worth living for isn't going to condemn you for being born into a creed or for following something you believe. In fact, a good god wouldn't condemn you for anything, considering he consciously knew what was going to happen to you before you were created; meaning that condemning you would mean that he made you to go to hell. But that's irrelevant. God arguments are pointless because neither side makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 I still believe in a God though:/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 That's what I'm pointing out' date=' it's a useless disrespectful argument![/quote'] The only disrespect I see comes from the atheist side though :/ And so far there really hasn't been any valid points to this thread (goodness knows theres plenty of copypasta out there for the taking) And there never will be. If this was a discussion about 0 divided by 0, one side can prove the answer is undefined: "Any number over itself is 1." 0/0 = 1 "0 over any number is 0." 0/0 = 0 "Any number over 0 is undefined." 0/0 = Undefined So far, 0/0 = {0, 1, NO SOLUTION} "A mathmatical equation consisting of numerical values can only create one solution.[/b] 0/0 has only numbers. It has 3 solutions. That means it HAS to be undefined, not because any number over 0 is undefined, but because of the rule of math. In this discussion, nothing can be proven, because we have no fact. The only way I will ever believe there is a God is when he comes to Earth and talks to me. Which is obviously never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B3lly N3rd Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 I think that it isn't important. We're all going to die. It's not like you can help your creed. Any god worth living for isn't going to condemn you for being born into a creed or for following something you believe. In fact' date=' a good god wouldn't condemn you for [i']anything[/i], considering he consciously knew what was going to happen to you before you were created; meaning that condemning you would mean that he made you to go to hell. But that's irrelevant. God arguments are pointless because neither side makes sense. i barely understand this...but idc..i still believe in GOD ^^..i got a +rep for being a christian.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 That's what I'm pointing out' date=' it's a useless disrespectful argument![/quote'] The only disrespect I see comes from the atheist side though :/ And so far there really hasn't been any valid points to this thread (goodness knows theres plenty of copypasta out there for the taking) And there never will be. If this was a discussion about 0 divided by 0, one side can prove the answer is undefined: "Any number over itself is 1." 0/0 = 1 "0 over any number is 0." 0/0 = 0 "Any number over 0 is undefined." 0/0 = Undefined So far, 0/0 = {0, 1, NO SOLUTION} "A mathmatical equation consisting of numerical values can only create one solution.[/b] 0/0 has only numbers. It has 3 solutions. That means it HAS to be undefined, not because any number over 0 is undefined, but because of the rule of math. In this discussion, nothing can be proven, because we have no fact. The only way I will ever believe there is a God is when he comes to Earth and talks to me. Which is obviously never. You should read up on the double slit experiment. Everybody should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 That's what I'm pointing out' date=' it's a useless disrespectful argument![/quote'] The only disrespect I see comes from the atheist side though :/ And so far there really hasn't been any valid points to this thread (goodness knows theres plenty of copypasta out there for the taking) And there never will be. If this was a discussion about 0 divided by 0, one side can prove the answer is undefined: "Any number over itself is 1." 0/0 = 1 "0 over any number is 0." 0/0 = 0 "Any number over 0 is undefined." 0/0 = Undefined So far, 0/0 = {0, 1, NO SOLUTION} "A mathmatical equation consisting of numerical values can only create one solution.[/b] 0/0 has only numbers. It has 3 solutions. That means it HAS to be undefined, not because any number over 0 is undefined, but because of the rule of math. In this discussion, nothing can be proven, because we have no fact. The only way I will ever believe there is a God is when he comes to Earth and talks to me. Which is obviously never. You should read up on the double slit experiment. Everybody should. lol, that sounds like a cheap porn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 That's what I'm pointing out' date=' it's a useless disrespectful argument![/quote'] The only disrespect I see comes from the atheist side though :/ And so far there really hasn't been any valid points to this thread (goodness knows theres plenty of copypasta out there for the taking) And there never will be. If this was a discussion about 0 divided by 0, one side can prove the answer is undefined: "Any number over itself is 1." 0/0 = 1 "0 over any number is 0." 0/0 = 0 "Any number over 0 is undefined." 0/0 = Undefined So far, 0/0 = {0, 1, NO SOLUTION} "A mathmatical equation consisting of numerical values can only create one solution.[/b] 0/0 has only numbers. It has 3 solutions. That means it HAS to be undefined, not because any number over 0 is undefined, but because of the rule of math. In this discussion, nothing can be proven, because we have no fact. The only way I will ever believe there is a God is when he comes to Earth and talks to me. Which is obviously never. You should read up on the double slit experiment. Everybody should. Can you explain the relevance of that to the topic at hand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B3lly N3rd Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 That's what I'm pointing out' date=' it's a useless disrespectful argument![/quote'] The only disrespect I see comes from the atheist side though :/ And so far there really hasn't been any valid points to this thread (goodness knows theres plenty of copypasta out there for the taking) And there never will be. If this was a discussion about 0 divided by 0, one side can prove the answer is undefined: "Any number over itself is 1." 0/0 = 1 "0 over any number is 0." 0/0 = 0 "Any number over 0 is undefined." 0/0 = Undefined So far, 0/0 = {0, 1, NO SOLUTION} "A mathmatical equation consisting of numerical values can only create one solution.[/b] 0/0 has only numbers. It has 3 solutions. That means it HAS to be undefined, not because any number over 0 is undefined, but because of the rule of math. In this discussion, nothing can be proven, because we have no fact. The only way I will ever believe there is a God is when he comes to Earth and talks to me. Which is obviously never. You should read up on the double slit experiment. Everybody should. lol, that sounds like a cheap porn. lol..it kinda doesnt..they are talking about GOD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 I made a thread.http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/thread-121216.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jericho Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 That's what I'm pointing out' date=' it's a useless disrespectful argument![/quote'] The only disrespect I see comes from the atheist side though :/ And so far there really hasn't been any valid points to this thread (goodness knows theres plenty of copypasta out there for the taking) And there never will be. If this was a discussion about 0 divided by 0, one side can prove the answer is undefined: "Any number over itself is 1." 0/0 = 1 "0 over any number is 0." 0/0 = 0 "Any number over 0 is undefined." 0/0 = Undefined So far, 0/0 = {0, 1, NO SOLUTION} "A mathmatical equation consisting of numerical values can only create one solution.[/b] 0/0 has only numbers. It has 3 solutions. That means it HAS to be undefined, not because any number over 0 is undefined, but because of the rule of math. In this discussion, nothing can be proven, because we have no fact. The only way I will ever believe there is a God is when he comes to Earth and talks to me. Which is obviously never. You should read up on the double slit experiment. Everybody should. lol, that sounds like a cheap porn. lol..it kinda doesnt..they are talking about GOD you're retarded. they're talking about quantum physics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno983 Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Okay im not saying that God dont exist but they are proof that he dont exist: 1.If GOD really Create Adam and Eve and every thing else in the world the animals,etc. the what the F**K happen to the dinosaurs in the bible2. If God created the 10 commandments and one of them says "thou sall not kill" then he in the Apocalipse killed the whole human race he was broken one of them A.K.A: contradicting what he was saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Okay im not saying that God dont exist but they are proof that he dont exist: 1.If GOD really Create Adam and Eve and every thing else in the world the animals' date='etc. the what the F**K happen to the dinosaurs in the bible2. If God created the 10 commandments and one of them says "thou sall not kill" then he in the Apocalipse killed the whole human race he was broken one of them A.K.A: contradicting what he was saying[/quote'] Neither of those questions deserve an answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jericho Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Okay im not saying that God dont exist but they are proof that he dont exist: 1.If GOD really Create Adam and Eve and every thing else in the world the animals' date='etc. the what the F**K happen to the dinosaurs in the bible2. If God created the 10 commandments and one of them says "thou sall not kill" then he in the Apocalipse killed the whole human race he was broken one of them A.K.A: contradicting what he was saying[/quote'] Neither of those questions deserve an answer. lolcan'tanswer And if christianity is true, I'd side with satan any day. Satan killed 10 people in the bible. God killed thousands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 He's God, he can do whatever the f'ck he wants:/ Satan is only Satan because God said so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prada Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 So basically, you'd choose eternal suffering over peaceful eternity? Poor decision making. I like how Christianity is the only thing being bashed, but dozens of other religions have some sort of god. My question to atheists - If we evolved from a bunch of monkeys, why aren't humans popping up in the damn zoos all over the world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frlf Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 So basically' date=' you'd choose eternal suffering over peaceful eternity? Poor decision making. I like how Christianity is the only thing being bashed, but dozens of other religions have some sort of god. My question to atheists - If we evolved from a bunch of monkeys, why aren't humans popping up in the damn zoos all over the world?[/quote'] Takes million of years.If 2 million years ago the monkeys were different, we don't know.Same with humans, we evolved.I don't really know what the funk happened, or will really try to find out, because I can't. Also Disturbed, you're Christian?Didn't knew xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Okay im not saying that God dont exist but they are proof that he dont exist: 1.If GOD really Create Adam and Eve and every thing else in the world the animals' date='etc. the what the F**K happen to the dinosaurs in the bible2. If God created the 10 commandments and one of them says "thou sall not kill" then he in the Apocalipse killed the whole human race he was broken one of them A.K.A: contradicting what he was saying[/quote'] Neither of those questions deserve an answer. lolcan'tanswer And if christianity is true, I'd side with satan any day. Satan killed 10 people in the bible. God killed thousands. So basically, you'd choose eternal suffering over peaceful eternity? Poor decision making. Agreed I like how Christianity is the only thing being bashed, but dozens of other religions have some sort of god. I believe in a God but probably not the Christian one. I have no labled faith. Sides not all christian faiths believe in the bible, nobody metioned that yet:/ My question to atheists - If we evolved from a bunch of monkeys, why aren't humans popping up in the damn zoos all over the world? Evolution takes a long time for stuff like that to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoDemonX Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 I believe God and Evo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B3lly N3rd Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 I think that it isn't important. We're all going to die. It's not like you can help your creed. Any god worth living for isn't going to condemn you for being born into a creed or for following something you believe. In fact' date=' a good god wouldn't condemn you for [i']anything[/i], considering he consciously knew what was going to happen to you before you were created; meaning that condemning you would mean that he made you to go to hell. But that's irrelevant. God arguments are pointless because neither side makes sense. the very fact that you said hell proves that there is a GOD cuz GOD made hell for Satan..or idk mabye stan made hell..but if there is a satain then there is a GOD...cants have evil without good...thats why in the ying and yang simnol..there is a dark spot in the white sign and a white spot in the dark sign...anyways..the very fact that you said..hell...there just has to be a GOD idk how you look at it...the only reason why bad thigns happen is because you cannot have only good things...as it was said..its easy to go to hell..but not as easy to go to heaven...if you wan good thigns you gotta work for it..heaven is free...as it was also said...the best things in life are free ^^..sorry for the long post...i just had some points i wanted to share.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 I've decided to give you an answer. Okay im not saying that God dont exist but they are proof that he dont exist: 1.If GOD really Create Adam and Eve and every thing else in the world the animals' date='etc. the what the F**K happen to the dinosaurs in the bible. [b']Some sections of christianity don't believe in creationism, only that there was one true beginning and that was God's doing. The ones that do believe in the bibel say that the dinosaur bones are a test:/[/b] 2. If God created the 10 commandments and one of them says "thou sall not kill" then he in the Apocalipse killed the whole human race he was broken one of them A.K.A: contradicting what he was saying Nobody will be "killed" in the "apocalipse". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 I have a question. Do you really expect yourself, and others, to believe that some all-powerful being created two people who started the human race, meaning that we are all decendents of Adam and Eve, making us all Christian. And if that is not the case, why are religions different? Why do they have different beliefs? They cannot all be true, because that would cause a contradiction. And the double slit experiement has zip to do with God at all, more in the fact that we cannot explain what is going on. When we cannot explain it, we cannot prove it, rendering it false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Okay im not saying that God dont exist but they are proof that he dont exist:in other words' date=' you ARE saying He doesn't exist. And in horrible grammar too.[/b'] 1.If GOD really Create Adam and Eve and every thing else in the world the animals,etc. the what the F**K happen to the dinosaurs in the bibleIn Genesis, there's a time jump from when Satan is cast down and when Adam and Eve appear. Presumably, that is when the dinosaurs roamed the earth.2. If God created the 10 commandments and one of them says "thou sall not kill" then he in the Apocalipse killed the whole human race he was broken one of them A.K.A: contradicting what he was saying10 Commandments were given to....man. God is not a man?Also, Jesus says something about only being able to receive salvation through Him, not the law. Ah, its a weak defense, I know. This is actually a rather valid point. I'm going to have to get back to you on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prada Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Frlfy - Yah. Don't look down upon me because of it. How can we know anything that happened 2 million years ago or even 500,000 years ago? We can't. So that disproves a lot that atheists put out. Just saying. Atheists can't show me how the dinosaurs died off either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B3lly N3rd Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Okay im not saying that God dont exist but they are proof that he dont exist:in other words' date=' you ARE saying He doesn't exist. And in horrible grammar too.[/b'] 1.If GOD really Create Adam and Eve and every thing else in the world the animals,etc. the what the F**K happen to the dinosaurs in the bibleIn Genesis, there's a time jump from when Satan is cast down and when Adam and Eve appear. Presumably, that is when the dinosaurs roamed the earth.2. If God created the 10 commandments and one of them says "thou sall not kill" then he in the Apocalipse killed the whole human race he was broken one of them A.K.A: contradicting what he was saying10 Commandments were given to....man. God is not a man?Also, Jesus says something about only being able to receive salvation through Him, not the law. Ah, its a weak defense, I know. This is actually a rather valid point. I'm going to have to get back to you on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EocDragon Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Atheism never made sense to me. They believe that god cannot logically exist, yet somehow instead they believe it's logical that several hundred thousand one-in-a-million chances brought us to where we are today. I find it hard to believe that the universe randomly created itself and the laws that govern it. So realistically, there is nothing less logical about an omniscient being guiding the universe than the universe creating itself out of nothingness. Thus the atheism arguement basically dissolves into God can't exist because you can't prove he exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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