God.

[OMGAKITTY]

I have a question.

 

Do you really expect yourself' date=' and others, to believe that some all-powerful being created two people who started the human race, meaning that we are all decendents of Adam and Eve, making us all Christian.

 

And if that is not the case, why are religions different? Why do they have different beliefs? They cannot all be true, because that would cause a contradiction.

 

[b']One explanation I have heard is that since the world is Satan's realm, he distorts God (as a prism would split light into different colored rays). The example given was the three blind men feeling the elephant. They were all feeling the same animal, yet their perceptions of that animal were vastly different.[/b]

 

And the double slit experiement has zip to do with God at all, more in the fact that we cannot explain what is going on. When we cannot explain it, we cannot prove it, rendering it false.

[Dark]

Atheism never made sense to me. They believe that god cannot logically exist' date=' yet somehow instead they believe it's logical that several hundred thousand one-in-a-million chances brought us to where we are today. I find it hard to believe that the universe randomly created itself and the laws that govern it. So realistically, there is nothing less logical about an omniscient being guiding the universe than the universe creating itself out of nothingness. Thus the atheism arguement basically dissolves into God can't exist because you can't prove he exists.

[/quote']

 

You act like the people who defend God's exsistance make any more sense. lulz

[bruno983]

Okay im not saying that God dont exist but they are proof that he dont exist:

in other words' date=' you ARE saying He doesn't exist. And in horrible grammar too.[/b']

 

1.If GOD really Create Adam and Eve and every thing else in the world the animals,etc. the what the F**K happen to the dinosaurs in the bible

In Genesis, there's a time jump from when Satan is cast down and when Adam and Eve appear. Presumably, that is when the dinosaurs roamed the earth.

2. If God created the 10 commandments and one of them says "thou sall not kill" then he in the Apocalipse killed the whole human race he was broken one of them A.K.A: contradicting what he was saying

10 Commandments were given to....man. God is not a man?

Also, Jesus says something about only being able to receive salvation through Him, not the law. Ah, its a weak defense, I know. This is actually a rather valid point. I'm going to have to get back to you on that.

 

sorry for the grammar im from Argentina

 

And i think God is a man...only that he can create wathever the hell he wants and can control your destiny

[Dark]

But all 3 men feeling the elephant (it's a story) were right. They were grasping the same object. But religions have different points of view.

 

Hinduism says NO MEAT SHALL BE EATEN; ANIMALS SHALL NOT DIE.

Other religions say EAT MEAT; I DUN CARE.

 

They cannot both be right, that would make it one man feeling an elephant and the other two feeling a tiger.

[Frlf]

Frlfy - Yah. Don't look down upon me because of it.

 

How can we know anything that happened 2 million years ago or even 500' date='000 years ago? We can't. So that disproves a lot that atheists put out. Just saying. Atheists can't show me how the dinosaurs died off either.

[/quote']

 

Nah, I won't.

 

The most reliable thing humans have is science. Thats what we have.

 

Religion can't also prove what happened 5 million years ago. We have a book written by humans, that said that God spoke to them.

 

Meh, I don't really have a good argument against that xP.

 

EDIT:

 

Dark: In the bible, a disciple (John?) had a dream (Aka vision) that God showed him a lot of dead animals and meats, and that he could eat them. Thats how Christians started to eat dead animals.

[EocDragon]

Atheism never made sense to me. They believe that god cannot logically exist' date=' yet somehow instead they believe it's logical that several hundred thousand one-in-a-million chances brought us to where we are today. I find it hard to believe that the universe randomly created itself and the laws that govern it. So realistically, there is nothing less logical about an omniscient being guiding the universe than the universe creating itself out of nothingness. Thus the atheism arguement basically dissolves into God can't exist because you can't prove he exists.

[/quote']

 

You act like the people who defend God's exsistance make any more sense. lulz

 

 

You misunderstand. I only point out that the atheist arguement is no more logical than that of the religious view point, therefore, neither side can claim to have logic on their side.

[Dark]

Frlfy - Yah. Don't look down upon me because of it.

 

How can we know anything that happened 2 million years ago or even 500' date='000 years ago? We can't. So that disproves a lot that atheists put out. Just saying. Atheists can't show me how the dinosaurs died off either.

[/quote']

 

Nah, I won't.

 

The most reliable thing humans have is science. Thats what we have.

 

Religion can't also prove what happened 5 million years ago. We have a book written by humans, that said that God spoke to them.

 

Meh, I don't really have a good argument against that xP.

 

EDIT:

 

Dark: In the bible, a disciple (John?) had a dream (Aka vision) that God showed him a lot of dead animals and meats, and that he could eat them. Thats how Christians started to eat dead animals.

 

In the Bible, nothing is proven. It's all what you BELIEVE, and BELIEVING means it has not been PROVED FACT.

 

Note that I am not saying I am right, just that you are wrong. (Not aimed at you, Frlf.)

 

Science is where everything is DEFINITIVE. Religion is not.

 

EDIT: "Neither side has logic."

 

I made a whole damn post about how this would be an endless convo and nothing can be proven. GOD.

 

This thread is not about the use of God damn, should we change it to Holy Krishna?

[OMGAKITTY]

But all 3 men feeling the elephant (it's a story) were right. They were grasping the same object. But religions have different points of view.

 

Hinduism says NO MEAT SHALL BE EATEN; ANIMALS SHALL NOT DIE.

Other religions say EAT MEAT; I DUN CARE.

 

They cannot both be right' date=' that would make it one man feeling an elephant and the other two feeling a tiger.

[/quote']

 

Not necessarily. Could one of the blind men have felt the tusk instead of, say, the ear, and said that the elephant must be a fierce meat eating creature, because it seems to have large and sharp fangs?

 

And even then, at the core of most religions, the basic tenant is to be good to your fellow human.

[~Shore]

How did I miss this. A debatish thread. And Dark believing in god. I can hardly contain myself. I can't *pees pants*

 

I don't know if there is a god or not, but I know that if there was, I would not worship him. I don't want there to be a supreme being, for my fate to be determined, for someone to be running my life, etc. That would be a real downer.

[Dark]

But all 3 men feeling the elephant (it's a story) were right. They were grasping the same object. But religions have different points of view.

 

Hinduism says NO MEAT SHALL BE EATEN; ANIMALS SHALL NOT DIE.

Other religions say EAT MEAT; I DUN CARE.

 

They cannot both be right' date=' that would make it one man feeling an elephant and the other two feeling a tiger.

[/quote']

 

Not necessarily. Could one of the blind men have felt the tusk instead of, say, the ear, and said that the elephant must be a fierce meat eating creature, because it seems to have large and sharp fangs?

 

And even then, at the core of most religions, the basic tenant is to be good to your fellow human.

 

Satanism.

 

You make a good point, but that still doesn't explain why any two given religions have COMPLETELY opposite views.

[Frlf]

Frlfy - Yah. Don't look down upon me because of it.

 

How can we know anything that happened 2 million years ago or even 500' date='000 years ago? We can't. So that disproves a lot that atheists put out. Just saying. Atheists can't show me how the dinosaurs died off either.

[/quote']

 

Nah, I won't.

 

The most reliable thing humans have is science. Thats what we have.

 

Religion can't also prove what happened 5 million years ago. We have a book written by humans, that said that God spoke to them.

 

Meh, I don't really have a good argument against that xP.

 

EDIT:

 

Dark: In the bible, a disciple (John?) had a dream (Aka vision) that God showed him a lot of dead animals and meats, and that he could eat them. Thats how Christians started to eat dead animals.

 

In the Bible, nothing is proven. It's all what you BELIEVE, and BELIEVING means it has not been PROVED FACT.

 

Note that I am not saying I am right, just that you are wrong. (Not aimed at you, Frlf.)

 

Science is where everything is DEFINITIVE. Religion is not.

 

EDIT: "Neither side has logic."

 

I made a whole damn post about how this would be an endless convo and nothing can be proven. GOD.

 

This thread is not about the use of God damn, should we change it to Holy Krishna?

 

Well, you asked why some were different.

Well just like me.

Some just lose faith, some think some facts are wrong and need to evolve, and shiz.

 

And thats why some eat meat and some not.

 

Same with languages, how could Australians have an accent, English people another one, and Americans yet ANOTHER one?

 

Notice that I'm not defending Christianism, but that Dark's logic CAN be countered, tho I don't think any YCMer would find the flaws.

[OMGAKITTY]

But all 3 men feeling the elephant (it's a story) were right. They were grasping the same object. But religions have different points of view.

 

Hinduism says NO MEAT SHALL BE EATEN; ANIMALS SHALL NOT DIE.

Other religions say EAT MEAT; I DUN CARE.

 

They cannot both be right' date=' that would make it one man feeling an elephant and the other two feeling a tiger.

[/quote']

 

Not necessarily. Could one of the blind men have felt the tusk instead of, say, the ear, and said that the elephant must be a fierce meat eating creature, because it seems to have large and sharp fangs?

 

And even then, at the core of most religions, the basic tenant is to be good to your fellow human.

 

Satanism.

 

You make a good point, but that still doesn't explain why any two given religions have COMPLETELY opposite views.

 

Satanism acknowledges God's existence- it couldn't exist otherwise. Satanism isn't God's word perverted, its just Satan's word.

[Crystal Beast 123]

How about we all shut up and let people believe what they want to believe? What a novel idea!

[Frlf]

But all 3 men feeling the elephant (it's a story) were right. They were grasping the same object. But religions have different points of view.

 

Hinduism says NO MEAT SHALL BE EATEN; ANIMALS SHALL NOT DIE.

Other religions say EAT MEAT; I DUN CARE.

 

They cannot both be right' date=' that would make it one man feeling an elephant and the other two feeling a tiger.

[/quote']

 

Not necessarily. Could one of the blind men have felt the tusk instead of, say, the ear, and said that the elephant must be a fierce meat eating creature, because it seems to have large and sharp fangs?

 

And even then, at the core of most religions, the basic tenant is to be good to your fellow human.

 

Satanism.

 

You make a good point, but that still doesn't explain why any two given religions have COMPLETELY opposite views.

 

Satanism acknowledges God's existence- it couldn't exist otherwise. Satanism isn't God's word perverted, its just Satan's word.

OMG is right. Also, most of these religions (Buddhism, Jew, Christians, ect.) believe in the same God, but with different names, and Jews and Buddhists don't think Jesus was the son of God (Which is really ironic, since in the bible is mentioned that EVERYONE is the son of God.), but yet, another prophet.

 

Also the Christian Church is divided into many churches. Some believe when you take the beard, it isn't Jesus, but a symbol, and some believe it does.

 

Oh, and Protestants. They didn't like the ways of Christians, and they separated.

 

 

EDIT:

 

Crystal: Won't happen.

[Willieh]

But all 3 men feeling the elephant (it's a story) were right. They were grasping the same object. But religions have different points of view.

 

Hinduism says NO MEAT SHALL BE EATEN; ANIMALS SHALL NOT DIE.

Other religions say EAT MEAT; I DUN CARE.

 

They cannot both be right' date=' that would make it one man feeling an elephant and the other two feeling a tiger.

[/quote']

 

Not necessarily. Could one of the blind men have felt the tusk instead of, say, the ear, and said that the elephant must be a fierce meat eating creature, because it seems to have large and sharp fangs?

 

And even then, at the core of most religions, the basic tenant is to be good to your fellow human.

 

Satanism.

 

You make a good point, but that still doesn't explain why any two given religions have COMPLETELY opposite views.

 

Satanism acknowledges God's existence- it couldn't exist otherwise. Satanism isn't God's word perverted, its just Satan's word.

 

Satanism, when practiced properly, contains no relevance to Satan or god literally. An atheist could actually practice Satanism if they wanted to. Satanism is centering life around yourself so that only you benefit from your life and that nobody else does. Basically, Satanism is just being egotistical to the furthest degree.

 

Traditional Satanism (Devil Worshiping), however, is when a bunch of morons dress up like animals and talk about how much god sucks. :|

 

Imma ramble some more later.

 

As of now my fetish is editing all of my posts that say something and giving a source.

 

http://www.dpjs.co.uk/sell.html

 

GOD, THAT GETS ME OFF.

[OMGAKITTY]

But all 3 men feeling the elephant (it's a story) were right. They were grasping the same object. But religions have different points of view.

 

Hinduism says NO MEAT SHALL BE EATEN; ANIMALS SHALL NOT DIE.

Other religions say EAT MEAT; I DUN CARE.

 

They cannot both be right' date=' that would make it one man feeling an elephant and the other two feeling a tiger.

[/quote']

 

Not necessarily. Could one of the blind men have felt the tusk instead of, say, the ear, and said that the elephant must be a fierce meat eating creature, because it seems to have large and sharp fangs?

 

And even then, at the core of most religions, the basic tenant is to be good to your fellow human.

 

Satanism.

 

You make a good point, but that still doesn't explain why any two given religions have COMPLETELY opposite views.

 

Satanism acknowledges God's existence- it couldn't exist otherwise. Satanism isn't God's word perverted, its just Satan's word.

OMG is right. Also, most of these religions (Buddhism, Jew, Christians, ect.) believe in the same God, but with different names, and Jews and Buddhists don't think Jesus was the son of God (Which is really ironic, since in the bible is mentioned that EVERYONE is the son of God.), but yet, another prophet.

 

Also the Christian Church is divided into many churches. Some believe when you take the beard, it isn't Jesus, but a symbol, and some believe it does.

 

Oh, and Protestants. They didn't like the ways of Christians, and they separated.

 

LOL.

1. You're thinking of Muslims buddy, Buddhism believes in enlightenment, and no actual god.

2.lolbeard.

3. All forms for Christianity that aren't Catholic or Orthodox are Protestant.

[Corinthian]

Alright. Atheists know that there is NOT a God. Other religions believe that there is a God.

 

So, you can either choose to believe, or know.

 

The point of religion is to believe, whatever it may be. There is no proof. If there was such proof for a God, religion and science fact will be the same, which it cannot.

 

So, therefore, neither side is right or wrong, just simply different. And there is nothing wrong with being different.

[Frlf]

But all 3 men feeling the elephant (it's a story) were right. They were grasping the same object. But religions have different points of view.

 

Hinduism says NO MEAT SHALL BE EATEN; ANIMALS SHALL NOT DIE.

Other religions say EAT MEAT; I DUN CARE.

 

They cannot both be right' date=' that would make it one man feeling an elephant and the other two feeling a tiger.

[/quote']

 

Not necessarily. Could one of the blind men have felt the tusk instead of, say, the ear, and said that the elephant must be a fierce meat eating creature, because it seems to have large and sharp fangs?

 

And even then, at the core of most religions, the basic tenant is to be good to your fellow human.

 

Satanism.

 

You make a good point, but that still doesn't explain why any two given religions have COMPLETELY opposite views.

 

Satanism acknowledges God's existence- it couldn't exist otherwise. Satanism isn't God's word perverted, its just Satan's word.

OMG is right. Also, most of these religions (Buddhism, Jew, Christians, ect.) believe in the same God, but with different names, and Jews and Buddhists don't think Jesus was the son of God (Which is really ironic, since in the bible is mentioned that EVERYONE is the son of God.), but yet, another prophet.

 

Also the Christian Church is divided into many churches. Some believe when you take the beard, it isn't Jesus, but a symbol, and some believe it does.

 

Oh, and Protestants. They didn't like the ways of Christians, and they separated.

 

LOL.

1. You're thinking of Muslims buddy, Buddhism believes in enlightenment, and no actual god.

2.lolbeard.

3. All forms for Christianity that aren't Catholic or Orthodox are Protestant.

 

Yeah, that xD.

1) I actually Googled the word, because I couldn't name it. So yeah, that.

2) Lol beard.

3) I believe there are more.

[OMGAKITTY]

Alright. Atheists know that there is NOT a God. Other religions believe that there is a God.

 

So' date=' you can either choose to believe, or know.

 

The point of religion is to believe, whatever it may be. There is no proof. If there was such proof for a God, religion and science fact will be the same, which it cannot.

 

So, therefore, neither side is right or wrong, just simply different. And there is nothing wrong with being different.

[/quote']

 

Way to sum up what everyone has been saying since....post #3.

[Prada]

Alright. Atheists believe that there is NOT a God. Other religions believe that there is a God.

 

So' date=' you can only believe one or the other.[/b']

 

The point of religion is to believe, whatever it may be. There is no proof. If there was such proof for a God, religion and science fact will be the same, which it cannot. I couldn't even make sense of that remark. =/

 

Fixed some of your flawed statements. ;]

[Infinitus]

Let's take a look at what's happened. Everyone keeps saying "There is no proof of God." and people keep saying "God exists because of the Bible and faith" and then thay say "Well, the Bible is WRONG!" And let's not forget the owning, topic winning statement by Icy and the invisible Unicorn. Let's face it, there is NO way of ending this except by mod lock. That's what you say, and yet you continue to debate. So far, everyone has already said my lines of the belief down the middle statements, like Icy and Dark, so here it is. This will never end, I know it, you know it, we know it, mostly be experiance. All and all, endless, yet funny topic. It has no end, simple as that.

 

[/thread]

 

P.S. Keep going with the topic though, I iz amused XD

[OMGAKITTY]

Let's take a look at what's happened. Everyone keeps saying "There is no proof of God." and people keep saying "God exists because of the Bible and faith" and then thay say "Well' date=' the Bible is WRONG!"[/b'] And let's not forget the owning, topic winning statement by Icy and the invisible Unicorn. Let's face it, there is NO way of ending this except by mod lock. That's what you say, and yet you continue to debate. So far, everyone has already said my lines of the belief down the middle statements, like Icy and Dark, so here it is. This will never end, I know it, you know it, we know it, mostly be experiance. All and all, endless, yet funny topic. It has no end, simple as that.

 

[/thread]

 

P.S. Keep going with the topic though, I iz amused XD

 

That's uh...not whats going on at all.

Atheistfags say you can't prove God exists.

Christfags say you can't prove He doesn't.

 

Then some members are like, "d00d, this is so stupid, everyone just says "God exists because of the Bible and faith" and then thay say "Well, the Bible is WRONG!" and...doesn't really contribute to my lols at all.

[Corinthian]

Over 600 views in less than 5 hours. Not bad.

 

Quick question for anyone who is reading this, how and when do you think the world will end?

[Willieh]

I'm throwing a completely new idea into this shiz.

 

There is not god.

BUT!

There is a so.

 

Transcendentalism is what I suppose I am about to project.

 

Idk. I was going to say reincarnation with no god. But rather a matter-less energy spectrum that gives us animation. Or, to not desperately attempt to sound smart, reincarnation of a soul but no creation of the soul?

 

(I fixed on of my sentences. I are grammar mistaked.)

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Over 600 views in less than 5 hours. Not bad.

 

Quick question for anyone who is reading this' date=' how and when do you think the world will end?

[/quote']

 

I don't think it will.

 

I think that a mass extinction will occur causing the end of our Cenozoic era and that a new era will begin from our ashes thousands-millions of years later.

 

Unless something really big hits and destroys the earth. :|

[OMGAKITTY]

I'm throwing a completely new idea into this shiz.

 

There is not god.

BUT!

There is a so.

 

Transcendentalism is what I suppose I am about to project.

 

Idk. I was going to say reincarnation with no god. But rather a matter-less energy spectrum that gives us animation. Or' date=' to not desperately attempt at trying to sound smart, reincarnation of a soul but no creation of the soul?

[/quote']

 

Actually, this entire reality is the creation of one school girl. Once she becomes bored with this existence, the world will be destroyed and remade to her liking.