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(What I will post is not meant to offend anyone by any racial means, this is just me using text book knowledge, besides... great friends of mine on here happens to be from foreign lands)

 

Oh please~

 

Another example of racism comes from the original "Fantasia" film. Funny enough, it was done during the same era as those people with a heavily influenced media view could find nothing wrong with it as a cartoon.

 

Plus wasn't this around the time when the Japanese bombed pearl harbor? Plus wasn't this Bugs Bunny Cartoon done by American people?

 

Media fueled the hatred toward another race of people because hey... (For instance with pearl harbor) they destroyed are stuff, we wanted payback, and to get our revenge that meant going all army on the enemy.

 

Also during a time in our American History, it was considered downright un-good if a man or woman from another minority other then American were to become a Doctor / Lawyer / Etc (Person with a better paying job basically then a white American).

 

So to the OP, America has been:

A) Racist

B) Influenced by Media

 

for a very, very, very long time, their is no denying it. Now a days that bugs bunny cartoon probably wouldn't get past the censors, but hey back then, it did.

 

EDIT: Also almost forgot this tidbit of info:

Bugs Bunny was not originally made for a little children and their are things that hint at it (Bugs Bunny dressing up as a woman to fool the hunter for instance).

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EDIT: Also almost forgot this tidbit of info:

Bugs Bunny was not originally made for a little children and their are things that hint at it (Bugs Bunny dressing up as a woman to fool the hunter for instance).

 

That was the Silver Age for you. Most cartoons were actually layered so that adults could watch and enjoy them, as well as children. Much better than this transparent bullcrap they call television today.

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EDIT: Also almost forgot this tidbit of info:

Bugs Bunny was not originally made for a little children and their are things that hint at it (Bugs Bunny dressing up as a woman to fool the hunter for instance).

 

That was the Silver Age for you. Most cartoons were actually layered so that adults could watch and enjoy them' date=' as well as children. Much better than this transparent bullcrap they call television today.

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How true even if the cartoons now are a BIT better then quite a few ones from 60s & 70s (possibly 80s as well), though oh well, my T.V. is off most of the time unless I want to watch whatever is good on Hallmark Channel. (Good stuff like MASH, Little House on the Prairie, etc.)

 

(back to the original topic)

 

Though yeah, America has not even tanker worth to hold the amount of racism in America's history. So don't be surprised if you see racism in old cartoons.

 

EDIT: Also some people have ideals or at least dreams of going back in time and preventing so many things they believe to be bad. (Like what if Hitler was stopped way in the beginning by an opposing troop? The man gambled and ended up winning which if he hadn't would have been such a large loss for him, he might have lost the support from Germany.)

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Different time, different culture. It was acceptable to have racist jokes on television back then. Just like how there are things on television today that would be totally unacceptable back in say, the 60's (ie, Sailor Moon's rather infamously unnecessary transformation sequence, or Yugioh's underlying demonic/satanic themes).

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That was still 1943. The American people's bitterness for the Japanese surprise attack on Pearl Harbor had far from faded (even after the war many felt the bitterness would never fade).

 

The media is merely fanning the waves of hatred. You'd do well to remember the American attitude towards Japanese Americans was that it didn't matter that they were born in the US, their blood remains Japanese and therefore makes them all the same to the Japanese across the Pacific.

 

It's actually a sharp contrast in Europe. Regardless of their attitude, the American soldiers still saw the German soldiers (and German people as a whole for the most part) as human beings. But with Japanese, they're viewed upon as subhumans, maggots, etc.

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First of all, It was okay back then. The Japs were our enemy, they had just bombed pearl harbor and they did other terrible things. Point is, we were in a war with them. Who cares about a little children's cartoon? I say the Nips deserved it then. Not anymore, of course. The point being who the hell cares if it's racist? It's Hilarious! And the racism was tolerable. I still question if racism is okay, because then why do black people live in Africa? And white people in Europe? And Japanese in Japan? The answer is because "God" (or whatever you believe in) put those people in the selected area, and when they intermingle, thats not right. They deserve to live in the place "God" put them, idk though

 

 

TL;DR: Racism was justified back then, especially in a war.

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That was still 1943. The American people's bitterness for the Japanese surprise attack on Pearl Harbor had far from faded (even after the war many felt the bitterness would never fade).

 

The media is merely fanning the waves of hatred. You'd do well to remember the American attitude towards Japanese Americans was that it didn't matter that they were born in the US' date=' their blood remains Japanese and therefore makes them all the same to the Japanese across the Pacific.

 

[b']It's actually a sharp contrast in Europe. Regardless of their attitude, the American soldiers still saw the German soldiers (and German people as a whole for the most part) as human beings. But with Japanese, they're viewed upon as subhumans, maggots, etc.[/b]

 

It's a lot harder to be racist when the people look exactly like you do.

Also, the hatred against Japanese-Americans might not have been completely unjustified (mostly unjustified, but not completely). I'm a first generation Chinese-American, and I can tell you that my parents, and a lot of their friends, still hold a large amount of loyalty and pride towards China. Its only natural. So its very possible that a few Japanese-Americans could have tried to support their home country by sabotaging sheet in the US. Does that mean we should have rounded up all the Japanese-Americans and put them into camps? Absolutely not.

 

 

First of all' date=' It was okay back then. The Japs were our enemy, they had just bombed pearl harbor and they did other terrible things. Point is, we were in a war with them. Who cares about a little children's cartoon? I say the Nips deserved it then. Not anymore, of course. The point being who the hell cares if it's racist? It's Hilarious! And the racism was tolerable. [b']I still question if racism is okay, because then why do black people live in Africa? And white people in Europe? And Japanese in Japan? The answer is because "God" (or whatever you believe in) put those people in the selected area, and when they intermingle, thats not right. They deserve to live in the place "God" put them, idk though[/b]

 

 

TL;DR: Racism was justified back then, especially in a war.

 

That's terrible logic. Humans evolve just like everything else on the planet. You place humans in a tropical area like Africa for long enough, eventually their skin will darken to adapt the the higher amounts of sunlight. And God probably didn't put them there in the first place. Since most of humanity started off as hunter-gatherers, they migrated to follow the food.

 

*I'm not saying there isn't a God, I'm just saying your logic sucks.

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