Huntar! Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 discuss time travel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 I cannot stress this enough: RELATIVITY. DOES. NOT. WORK. THAT. WAY. Everything you have said is the result of misconceptions and non-understandings. You have heard that E = mc^2. You don't, however have any idea what this equation means. You've just heard it a lot, know that Einstein came up with it, and suspect that it has something to do with relativity. But you don't know what it really means. In fact, it has nothing whatsoever to do with time travel or the light barrier; rather, it relates to inertia and the energy released in nuclear transformations. You're just brainlessly parroting a phrase you've seen before hoping that it will make you look smarter than you actually are. Your actual "theory" is, of course, sheer nonsense. First of all, traveling at the speed of light would require infinite energy, and unfortunately this energy is not available in the universe. But if you can walk at two miles per hour, then perhaps traveling one mile per hour slower than the speed of light and walking forward could work: Ask yourself this: if it is impossible to create a spaceship that can travel faster-than-light, then why on earth do you think it would be possible for a person to walk that fast? Do the laws of physics change when the object in question contains organic molecules, or perhaps when one object is inside of another? No, of course not; you just don't understand how motion close to the speed of light actually works, and I'm not about to waste my time explaining it to someone like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 You would tear to little pieces if you were to stand on something moving in the speed of light. Besides you'd just topple of before reaching 30 miles an hour so why bother >.> Opinion? Your hearing to much bullshit from infants TV shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EocDragon Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 If you want to be technical about it, you could sit up in the artic on the place where all the international timezones converge, and spin around in a swivel chair thus moving forward or backward in "Time". Other than that technicallity, there isn't really a way to go back in time. Going faster than light is impossible because of the energy involved. I suppose that technically your theory would be correct, but it just wouldn't be possible to execute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Culpa Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 If you want to be technical about it' date=' you could sit up in the artic on the place where all the international timezones converge, and spin around in a swivel chair thus moving forward or backward in "Time". Other than that technicallity, there isn't really a way to go back in time. Going faster than light is impossible because of the energy involved. I suppose that technically your theory would be correct, but it just wouldn't be possible to execute.[/quote'] And that is why theories are theories. We don't and cannot have the technology to test his theory, which means that's all it will ever be. A completely illogical theory as well. Like me saying 'In two days, the Earth will split into two halves and reproduce asexually'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jericho Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 I'm moderately sure that what Einstein said was that is that theoretically if you could get an object moving at 8.98755179 × 1016 m2 / s2, it would be converted to pure energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bury the year Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 I'm time-traveling right now. Look, there's a second! And another second! Time travel is theoretically possible, but we wouldn't be able to go back before the point that time-travel was discovered, which explains why we don't have any travelers from the future now. ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 If you want to be technical about it' date=' you could sit up in the artic on the place where all the international timezones converge, and spin around in a swivel chair thus moving forward or backward in "Time". [/quote'] Only if you are using the most idiotic definition of "Time" in existence. Other than that technicallity' date=' there isn't really a way to go back in time. Going faster than light is impossible because of the energy involved. I suppose that technically your theory would be correct, but it just wouldn't be possible to execute.[/quote'] There are actually hypothetical particles thought to move faster than light and to travel backwards in time. Called "tachyons", they are ridiculously unstable and cannot transmit information. And that is why theories are theories. We don't and cannot have the technology to test his theory' date=' which means that's all it will ever be. A completely illogical theory as well. Like me saying 'In two days, the Earth will split into two halves and reproduce asexually'.[/quote'] Theories are always theories, even when tested. Testing simply increases our confidence of their veracity. I'm fairly sure it can be observed in a couple of days whether or not the Earth has actually split in half, making that theory testable. I'm moderately sure that what Einstein said was that is that theoretically if you could get an object moving at 8.98755179 × 1016 m2 / s2' date=' it would be converted to pure energy.[/quote'] Considering that m2 / s2 isn't even a unit of speed, I'm rather more than moderately certain that you're wrong. And don't bother saying that m2 / s2 was supposed to be m/s, because the speed of light would then be less than a millionth of the value you quoted. I'm time-traveling right now. Look' date=' there's a second! And another second![/quote'] o we hav comedan Time travel is theoretically possible' date=' but we wouldn't be able to go back before the point that time-travel was discovered, which explains why we don't have any travelers from the future now. ;D[/quote'] Do you have any grounds on which to make this claim, or was it just something you read in a sci-fi story that sounded cool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Culpa Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 Technically the unit of speed is m/s and the acceleration m/s^2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 Technically the unit of speed is m/s and the acceleration m/s^2 I can't tell whether or not you think that you're correcting my post; your purpose in posting this message is ambiguous. If you were correcting me: Learn to read. You moron. If you weren't correcting me: Thanks for repeating what I said, Captain Obvious. You moron. And what's this "technically" business anyhow? If you try to give speed in units other than valid units of speed, then it makes no sense; it's like saying that the length of a ruler is five volts. There's nothing "technically" about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frunk Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Crab, may I ask you to refrain from debating Ad hominem? You'll win without it anyway. I would pull some basic science out of my ears but you have beaten me to all the posts. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntar! Posted June 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 RELATIVITY. DOES. NOT. WORK. THAT. WAY.Everything you have said is the result of misconceptions and non-understandings.ok then. You have heard that E = mc^2. You don't' date=' however have any idea what this equation means. You've just heard it a lot, know that Einstein came up with it, and suspect that it has something to do with relativity. But you don't know what it really means. In fact, it has nothing whatsoever to do with time travel or the light barrier; rather, it relates to inertia and the energy released in nuclear transformations. [b']thats all fine and dandy[/b] You're just brainlessly parroting a phrase you've seen before hoping that it will make you look smarter than you actually are.not rly Your actual "theory" is, of course, sheer nonsense. First of all, traveling at the speed of light would require infinite energy, and unfortunately this energy is not available in the universe. But if you can walk at two miles per hour, then perhaps traveling one mile per hour slower than the speed of light and walking forward could work: Ask yourself this: if it is impossible to create a spaceship that can travel faster-than-light, then why on earth do you think it would be possible for a person to walk that fast? Do the laws of physics change when the object in question contains organic molecules, or perhaps when one object is inside of another? No, of course not; you just don't understand how motion close to the speed of light actually works, and I'm not about to waste my time explaining it to someone like you.gosh, chill. I know that i don't know much, but i understand what I'm told. No, I know that the laws of physics don't change like that. Thats common sense. But lets get off of this topic. The topic is now time travel in general. >_> Stick to this or gtfo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adama. Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Time travel makes for an entertaining story, but even if it could be achieved the consequences of it could be so dire that I would highly recommend avoiding it. The amount of paradoxical situations which it creates continuously lead to an increased risk of irreparable damage to the future, or to the world in general. Let's keep it at fiction please.{Adama} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Красивая Ведьма Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 I don't like to use the word "impossible" because I think that it is an outdated term. Years ago many of the things we enjoy now would be impossible. Claiming that we can't travel at the speed of light or acquire an infinite energy source is a close-minded view point. On other planets and with the study of fission increasing to the point of laser control it may be one day possible to move at the speed of light. As far as time travel, I don't see a direct correlation between the theory of relativity and time travel. I can't see much of a use for time travel personally, maybe entertainment. I agree with crab for the most part. However, I wouldn't use the crude and belittling language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frunk Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 I don't like to use the word "impossible" because I think that it is an outdated term. Years ago many of the things we enjoy now would be impossible. Claiming that we can't travel at the speed of light or acquire an infinite energy source is a close-minded view point. On other planets and with the study of fission increasing to the point of laser control it may be one day possible to move at the speed of light. As far as time travel' date=' I don't see a direct correlation between the theory of relativity and time travel. I can't see much of a use for time travel personally, maybe entertainment. I agree with crab for the most part. However, I wouldn't use the crude and belittling language.[/quote'] Travelling at the speed of light is not the same as "time travel". I'm not saying it's impossible, but time appears to be something that is totally uncompromising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Красивая Ведьма Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 I don't like to use the word "impossible" because I think that it is an outdated term. Years ago many of the things we enjoy now would be impossible. Claiming that we can't travel at the speed of light or acquire an infinite energy source is a close-minded view point. On other planets and with the study of fission increasing to the point of laser control it may be one day possible to move at the speed of light. As far as time travel' date=' I don't see a direct correlation between the theory of relativity and time travel. I can't see much of a use for time travel personally, maybe entertainment. I agree with crab for the most part. However, I wouldn't use the crude and belittling language.[/quote'] Travelling at the speed of light is not the same as "time travel". I'm not saying it's impossible, but time appears to be something that is totally uncompromising. I never said it was the same. I was just addressing Crab's comment that light speed travel was impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 I remain certain that time travel is impossible. Aliens would have figured it out and gone ahead and messed up the entire universe through whatever shamanry it amounts to if it was actually possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 I don't like to use the word "impossible" because I think that it is an outdated term. You are wrong. Anime has taught you that you can do anything with the power of friendship and by putting your mind to it and whatnot. This is a lie. Years ago many of the things we enjoy now would be impossible. Nonsense. The physical laws of the universe have not changed' date=' so no, years ago the things we enjoy now were all perfectly possible; we just couldn't enjoy them at the time. You are confusing two different meanings of the word "impossible". Using computers in the sixteenth century was "impossible" because technology had not developed to that point, not because it was proven to be prohibited by the physical laws of the universe. Claiming that we can't travel at the speed of light or acquire an infinite energy source is a close-minded view point. No, it's the truth. Lightspeed travel would require either "infinite" energy (impossible) or something like "hyperspace" (which is constantly created by science fiction writers purely because there simply isn't any other way of getting around the light barrier). Transfinite reserves of energy are impossible because the entire universe contains finite energy and finite matter. This, combined with the fact that energy can neither be created nor destroyed, is itself sufficient to disprove your daydreams of infinite energy, but it gets worse: the second law of thermodynamics, due to the functioning of Graham's free energy, dictates that the amount of useful energy in the universe is continuously decreasing, being transferred in form into useless energy. In other words, there isn't even infinite energy available, and the finite energy that we can use is constantly growing smaller in magnitude. On other planets What' date=' space is magic and the physical laws of the universe will randomly suspend themselves if we go to other planets? Hate to break it to you, but the real world isn't like [i']Star Trek[/i]. and with the study of fission You're just throwing out more words that you don't understand here. YCM seems to be good at that. The amount of energy released by fission has to do with the nuclear enthalpies of the isotopes involved. These values are fixed and cannot be changed no matter how much you study them. In other words' date=' the energy that can be derived from fission is finite. increasing to the point of laser control No matter how accurately you can control the fission and how efficiently you can harness its energy, you aren't going to get unlimited energy. it may be one day possible to move at the speed of light. Pity that leads to all sorts of paradoxes. As far as time travel' date=' I don't see a direct correlation between the theory of relativity and time travel.[/quote'] Oh, there's a very direct connection. It is possible to construct a scenario involving lightspeed travel in which information is received before it is sent. I can't see much of a use for time travel personally' date=' maybe entertainment. [/quote'] What, you can't think of any applications of the power to view and alter history beyond giving us new TV channels? I agree with crab for the most part. And yet I disagree with you for the most part. Plot twist? However' date=' I wouldn't use the crude and belittling language.[/quote'] I would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 I don't like to use the word "impossible" because I think that it is an outdated term. You are wrong. Anime has taught you that you can do anything with the power of friendship and by putting your mind to it and whatnot. This is a lie. What, you mean I can't form super robots with my spiral power by shouting loudly? :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Красивая Ведьма Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 You know what Crab. I was going to be nice to you, but your arrogance is very anti agreeable. I don't even watch anime much. Anime is a form of entertainment that I don’t frequent. Yes, I ,like you, watch some of it. Sorry to break it to you, but you are on a form related to a anime/card game. I didn't say the laws of the universe changed. I said many things in the past that people considered impossible are now very possible. No, I understand that infinite energy isn't available. I simply said that that though it was unlikely, progression can make great feats happen. If you had half a brain you would know that other planets have different atmospheres and natural components not found on this planet. The study of fission is directly related to energy production. So, with new elemental constructs, solutions, and covalent/ionic compounds use of it creates large amounts of energy. I don't believe we should meddle in the past because it is done. Some theories suggest that it would change the future. Also, I don't watch or like Star Trek. The most we could do is increase our knowledge of history and be entertained. You might be smart (or just able to use Wikipedia), but you have zero etiquette. So please quit E-balling. Honestly, I can’t understand how someone with your manners could even become a moderator. I guess I’m just one of the few people who believe in respecting others. Меньше людей больше кислорода Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juuzou Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 I cannot stress this enough: RELATIVITY. DOES. NOT. WORK. THAT. WAY. Everything you have said is the result of misconceptions and non-understandings. You have heard that E = mc^2. You don't' date=' however have any idea what this equation means. You've just heard it a lot, know that Einstein came up with it, and suspect that it has something to do with relativity. But you don't know what it really means. In fact, it has nothing whatsoever to do with time travel or the light barrier; rather, it relates to inertia and the energy released in nuclear transformations. You're just brainlessly parroting a phrase you've seen before hoping that it will make you look smarter than you actually are. Your actual "theory" is, of course, sheer nonsense. First of all, traveling at the speed of light would require infinite energy, and unfortunately this energy is not available in the universe. But if you can walk at two miles per hour, then perhaps traveling one mile per hour slower than the speed of light and walking forward could work: Ask yourself this: if it is impossible to create a spaceship that can travel faster-than-light, then why on earth do you think it would be possible for a person to walk that fast? Do the laws of physics change when the object in question contains organic molecules, or perhaps when one object is inside of another? No, of course not; you just don't understand how motion close to the speed of light actually works, and I'm not about to waste my time explaining it to someone like you.[/quote'] cool story, bro. it's impossible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Metal Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Hard to say it's impossible. Humans tend to think that something they can't do or something they can't prove (such as the existance of a god) is impossible or simply doesn't exist. So i'd say it's possible but highly unlikely to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 You all thinking in the wrong way. Time Travel is improbable, not impossible. I believe anything is possible, if you look at it in the right way. But any how, Time is a man made thing, which relatively straight forward. Also, that traveling is possible. So, when you pair the two up, the only way to do it is by thinking you were in the past even though you weren't. Time is manmade, theoretical speaking, their is no time. If thier is no time, their is no time travel. You have already traveled in all times. But yet, if you think about it, you can still do time travel, but that is what I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrometheusMFD Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 It is possible to "travel forward" in time based on our perception on Earth (by going very very fast) but it isn't probable or practical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 It is possible to "travel forward" in time based on our perception on Earth (by going very very fast) but it isn't probable or practical. That's called travelling a longer distance in a shorter amount of time. If that's time travel, than anytime I move I'm time traveling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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