Unkøwn Maçhine

[Sparta™]

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[spoiler=Effect]This card cannot be destroyed by Machine-Type monsters. If this card were to be destroyed by battle, you can take one Spell or Trap Card on your side of the field to your Monster Zone, and equip this card to it instead. For every Spell or Trap Card on the field, increase this cards ATK and DEF by 200 points. For every Machine-Type monster on the field, increase this cards ATK and DEF by 100 points.

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[To-Chi]

If this card were to be destroyed by battle, you can take one Spell or Trap Card on your side of the field to your Monster Zone, and equip this card to it instead.

 

W-what? Equipping a Monster to a Spell or Trap that, essentially, becomes a monster? How the f*** does that even work? Can the Spell/Trap attack? Seriously...

[Sparta™]

It means you take a spell or trap, use it like a monster, and equip this card to it like a spell or trap.

[Crimson General]

your effect contridicts itself,

 

1. if you make a spell/trap card a monster, you hafta give it stats put next to it (Machine-Type/DARK/3 Stars/0 ATK/0 DEF) or somthing

 

2. if you equip it it goes to the Spell Trap Card zone as an equip card, as a fundemental part of the game. thats just how it works.

 

3. if you mean when it would get destroyed by battle, it isn't and a spell or trap card you control becomes an equip instead? because that is darn confusing.

 

4. the boosts it gets are not that great, very underpowered.

 

5/10 points for originality and Ok Pic

[To-Chi]

I know what it means, I just don't get it. Does the Spell/Trap take the monster's ATK and DEF or what?

 

I haven't watched 5D's or GX or anything, and if this is in one of those correct me and I'll apologize, but I've never seen anything like that before.

 

EDIT:T'cha! Someone posted before me... But still, wtf? 42/100 for not makin' any-goddamn-sense. Srsly. But the ø and ç are pretty f***in' cool, so I'll give you +10 that.

 

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My ratings don't mean anything...*sob* *sob*

[Sparta™]

I know what it means' date=' I just don't get it. Does the Spell/Trap take the monster's ATK and DEF or what?

 

I haven't watched 5D's or GX or anything, and if this is in one of those correct me and I'll apologize, but I've never seen anything like that before.

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Well, yes, it takes the monster's ATK and DEF. it also gets points for every spell or trap card on the field, and every machine card on the field.

[Crimson General]

Ok ok, that confused me, but theres till issues

 

1. you still hafta give the spell/trap some kind of base stats like I stated earlier.

 

2. you hafta say what equpping the monster Does, you just say (equip it to it) meaning the only effect your giving it is 200 for every machine. say add this monsters attack to the new mosnter(which is a spell or trap) or somthing.

[To-Chi]

Well was that explained, ya' know, anywhere?

 

3rd Party or otherwise?

 

EDIT:Goddammit, stop beating me to the punch!! :x

[e-hero-guy]

thats pretty cool card i like it

[Sparta™]

Ok ok' date=' that confused me, but theres till issues

 

1. you still hafta give the spell/trap some kind of base stats like I stated earlier.

 

2. you hafta say what equpping the monster Does, you just say (equip it to it) meaning [b']the only effect your giving it is 200 for every machine.[/b] say add this monsters attack to the new mosnter(which is a spell or trap) or somthing.

 

read it again.

[Crimson General]

Ok, it gains 200 ATK for every Spell and Trap and 100 for every machine. but yorur missing the stinkin' point.

 

1. you have no way of saying wether or not that effect applies while it is equppied to the spell/trap monster created by its effect, or if it only gets that effect while it's a face-up monster or both.

 

2. You have no way of saying the equipped spell/trap monster gains the original monsters ATK

 

3. THE MOST IMPORTANT PART, you havn't noticed your spell/trap has no stats, it needs them, look at Metal Reflect Slime, Embodiement of Apophis or Scapegoat

 

PS: Sorry To-Chi =P

[Sparta™]

Ok' date=' it gains 200 ATK for every Spell and Trap and 100 for every machine. but yoru missing the stinkin' point.

 

1. you have no way of saying wether or not that effect applies while it is equppied to the spell/trap monster created by its effect, or if it only gets that effect while it's a face-up monster or both. [b']I don't need to. If it says it gains that amount of ATK and DEF, it will keep it. I never said for it to stop at a certain occasion.[/b]

 

2. You have no way of saying the equipped spell/trap monster gains the original mosnters ATK Why the hell would I have a card that doesn't use it's ATK and DEF? That's like saying you play Axe Of Despair and you don't even use it's effect!

 

3. THE MOST IMPORTANT PART, you havn't noticed your spell/trap has no stats, it needs them, look at Metal Reflect Slime, Embodiement of Apophis or Scapegoat That kind of stuff has been mentioned on cards before. Why do I need to mention it again?

[To-Chi]

As per your #3 reply, because it's OCG. What your doing is basically

 

You:"I equip Unkøwn Maçhine to Generic Spell."

Me:"I attack you with Celtic Guardian. It has 1400 ATK."

You:"My monster has 1700 ATK. Your monster is destroyed."

Me:"WTF?The card didn't say that."

You:"My Equip Monster's ATK + 200 for the Spell it's equipped to + 100 for the Machine-Type monster Unkøwn Maçhine = 1700.It's obvious."

Me:"I'm not f*cking psychic and the card doesn't say that!"

You:"..."

Me:"...Wait, why the f*ck am I playing you?"

 

Oh, and Crimson General: It's okay. You are forgiven. :)

 

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Just don't f*cking do it again!! :X

[Crimson General]

1. you have no way of saying wether or not that effect applies while it is equppied to the spell/trap monster created by its effect, or if it only gets that effect while it's a face-up monster or both. I don't need to. If it says it gains that amount of ATK and DEF, it will keep it. I never said for it to stop at a certain occasion.Look, did you say or did you not say that the Spell/trap monster this card special summons when it would be destroyed by battle gets equipped with this card? Did you not say that the spell/trap monster gains this cards attack? if it does, then say it

 

2. You have no way of saying the equipped spell/trap monster gains the original mosnters ATK Why the hell would I have a card that doesn't use it's ATK and DEF? That's like saying you play Axe Of Despair and you don't even use it's effect!yes but Axe of despair says , "equipped monster gains 1000 ATK" yours doesn't say, "when equipped to the monster, it gains ATK equal to this monsters ATK" or ANYTHING

 

 

3. THE MOST IMPORTANT PART, you havn't noticed your spell/trap has no stats, it needs them, look at Metal Reflect Slime, Embodiement of Apophis or Scapegoat That kind of stuff has been mentioned on cards before. Why do I need to mention it again? I don't see the stats mentioned on this card, you can't summon a mosnter with it's stats on another card, even if its 0 ATK and 0DEF to start with YOU HAFTA SAY IT. its part of the game, LOOK at a card that summons a token or a spell/trap monster. it says info, yours does not.

 

 

Look I'm not here just to bash your card, its an interesting Idea, I'm trying to tell you what OCG errors need ot be fixed so people would understand it, I don't care if in your head monsters equipped to another automatically gain thier ATK, in RL thats not how it works, so you need the wording to say it. same with card stats. each token/spell/trap mosnter has different stats, whats your spell/trap monsters stats? I would like to know.

[Sparta™]

1. you have no way of saying wether or not that effect applies while it is equppied to the spell/trap monster created by its effect' date=' or if it only gets that effect while it's a face-up monster or both.[i'] I don't need to. If it says it gains that amount of ATK and DEF, it will keep it. I never said for it to stop at a certain occasion.[/i]Look, did you say or did you not say that the Spell/trap monster this card special summons when it would be destroyed by battle gets equipped with this card? Did you not say that the spell/trap monster gains this cards attack? if it does, then say it

 

2. You have no way of saying the equipped spell/trap monster gains the original mosnters ATK Why the hell would I have a card that doesn't use it's ATK and DEF? That's like saying you play Axe Of Despair and you don't even use it's effect!yes but Axe of despair says , "equipped monster gains 1000 ATK" yours doesn't say, "when equipped to the monster, it gains ATK equal to this monsters ATK" or ANYTHING

 

 

3. THE MOST IMPORTANT PART, you havn't noticed your spell/trap has no stats, it needs them, look at Metal Reflect Slime, Embodiement of Apophis or Scapegoat That kind of stuff has been mentioned on cards before. Why do I need to mention it again? I don't see the stats mentioned on this card, you can't summon a mosnter with it's stats on another card, even if its 0 ATK and 0DEF to start with YOU HAFTA SAY IT. its part of the game, LOOK at a card that summons a token or a spell/trap monster. it says info, yours does not.

 

 

Look I'm not here just to bash your card, its an interesting Idea, I'm trying to tell you what OCG errors need ot be fixed so people would understand it, I don't care if in your head monsters equipped to another automatically gain thier ATK, in RL thats not how it works, so you need the wording to say it. same with card stats. each token/spell/trap mosnter has different stats, whats your spell/trap monsters stats? I would like to know.

 

I never said you were bashing my card. I just gave you simple reasons on why I don't think it should be added. I mean no offence if I was offencive.

[Crimson General]

right so do you get the ocg changes? I mean it is a cool idea, but it really needs some explaination on the whole equip thing and stats. its really confusing to anyone who didn't make it.

[Altαir]

1. I need to know: "For every Spell or Trap Card on the field, increase this cards ATK and DEF by 200 points. For every Machine-Type monster on the field, increase this cards ATK and DEF by 100 points." Is that effect pointing to Unknown Machine or the equipped Spell/Trap card?

 

2. Maybe this will be better: This card cannot be destroyed as a result of battle with a Machine-Type monster. (Damage calculation is applied normally) If this card is destroyed by battle, select 1 Spell/Trap card on your field. Equip this card to the selected Spell/Trap card. The selected Spell/Trap card is treated as a Monster Card. The selected card's ATK, DEF, and Level is equal to this card's ATK, DEF, and Level. For each Spell or Trap Card on the field, increase the selected card's ATK and DEF by 200 points. For each Machine-Type monster on the field, increase the selected card's ATK and DEF by 100 points.

 

That's what I got. It's a complicated effect, I'll give you that.

[Sparta™]

right so do you get the ocg changes? I mean it is a cool idea' date=' but it really needs some explaination on the whole equip thing and stats. its really confusing to anyone who didn't make it.

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No, I'm sorry, but I will not make OCG changes. Your second reasons did noot make much sense replying to my reasons. But that's my opinion.

[evilherospencersimpson]

I like it...but work on the OCG!

[Sparta™]

Nothing is wrong with it!!!

[Crimson General]

*sigh* you can think theres nothing wrong with it, but that doesn't make it right. you already have 3 people confused and I like the card but

 

-Still no specifics on the special summoned monster no stats no nothing, if you DONT think this is important, think about what would happen if it's equip (the actual monster) is destroyed/removed? what the hell are the regular base stats of the spell/trap monster thats still there? NO ONE KNOWS

-Still no statement about the special summoned monster gaining unknown machine's ATK

-and STILL no statment about wether the atk gaining effects apply to only the equipped monster, the regular monster, or both

 

and until you get it through your head that the OCG is messed up and needs to make sense to everyone except the creator I'm done commenting, because its a neverending circle.

[To-Chi]

I, like Crimson General, like the card, but I also (if it hasn't been made obvious before) thing a change to the Description would suffice. That guy, like, three or four posts back, the one with the gold text, his #2 was a shining example of what you're card's description should have been if you wanted it to make sense the the average guy/girl, rather than hoping that everyone cheats like on Yu-Gi-Oh!.

 

Oh, and I mean no offense, either, JSYK.