God AND the Big Bang

[Exiro]

Explain to me what's flawed in believing in both of them.

 

Go.

[Guest JoshIcy]

Nothing.

[Captain Lawless]

• Both could've happened; God just wishes the universe into existence, and it was through a huge explosion.
  
• Anyone thinking they know, or thinking they will find a definite answer to anything about how true religion is,
  how everything started, etc. Is pretentious and stupid. It's pretty much impossible to pin down,
  and anyone foolish enough to think that it could ever be defined needs to re-evaluate.
  
• I'm not a bible pusher or bible basher, but believing all that we have today came from LITERALLY nothing (ex, no God, just the big bang) is childish. I'd just rather, not know. That simple.
  

[OMGAKITTY]

Anyone who believes science and Christianity are opposites, is clearly ignorant on at least one of the subjects.

[Enrise]

There is no proof their either of them exist/happened.

 

God- A deity of supreme power beyond the human race's control. He apparently created the universe and the started the human race making them look like his own image.

 

Big Bang- An event of concentrated elements of a select few which make up the entire universe, was compressed and bang. Universe is here, and it's Galaxy-galore.

 

But my theory is better.

 

2 Aliens were bored, one said, "Yeah, we need something to do, it's boring, cause we have nothing to rule over except for... well, nothing!"

So they created some kind of bomb which contained all the elements of the universe, and it compressed the elements and it became so tight that was about to blow.

So the aliens shouted, "It's a Big Bang!" very loudly, which made the explosion sound like a bang.

The aliens are Gods of the Universe.

The End.

 

Best story I created so far =D

[OMGAKITTY]

There is no proof their either of them exist/happened.

 

God- A deity of supreme power beyond the human race's control. He apparently created the universe and the started the human race making them look like his own image.

 

Big Bang- An event of concentrated elements of a select few which make up the entire universe' date=' was compressed and bang. Universe is here, and it's Galaxy-galore.

 

But my theory is better.

 

2 Aliens were bored, one said, "Yeah, we need something to do, it's boring, cause we have nothing to rule over except for... well, nothing!"

So they created some kind of bomb which contained all the elements of the universe, and it compressed the elements and it became so tight that was about to blow.

So the aliens shouted, "It's a Big Bang!" very loudly, which made the explosion sound like a bang.

The aliens are Gods of the Universe.

The End.

 

Best story I created so far =D

[/quote']

 

So you didn't really address the topic at all, but instead copy pasta'd your "story" from the other thread here. Ok.

[Enrise]

There is no proof their either of them exist/happened.

 

God- A deity of supreme power beyond the human race's control. He apparently created the universe and the started the human race making them look like his own image.

 

Big Bang- An event of concentrated elements of a select few which make up the entire universe' date=' was compressed and bang. Universe is here, and it's Galaxy-galore.

 

But my theory is better.

 

2 Aliens were bored, one said, "Yeah, we need something to do, it's boring, cause we have nothing to rule over except for... well, nothing!"

So they created some kind of bomb which contained all the elements of the universe, and it compressed the elements and it became so tight that was about to blow.

So the aliens shouted, "It's a Big Bang!" very loudly, which made the explosion sound like a bang.

The aliens are Gods of the Universe.

The End.

 

Best story I created so far =D

[/quote']

 

So you didn't really address the topic at all, but instead copy pasta'd your "story" from the other thread here. Ok.

 

I just pretty much said that anything was possible when considering the creation of the universe.

And plus, I retyped the whole story. I didn't copypasta'd it 3=

[Willieh]

Niether are real. tHe troof is that it all was just here and den BAM! THE sheet HAPPENED AND HERE WE ARE!

[Guest JoshIcy]

Fine... Easy answer.

In the beginning, God farted. That fart is known today as the "Big Bang".

[Exiro]

Anyone thinking they know' date=' or thinking they will find a definite answer to anything about how true religion is,

how everything started, etc. Is pretentious and stupid. It's pretty much impossible to pin down,

and anyone foolish enough to think that it could ever be defined needs to re-evaluate.

[/quote']

 

Anyone thinking that it is absolutely impossible for anyone in the whole universe to discover how the universe started and have proof of being right, is pretentious and stupid and needs to re-evaluate. :\

Seriously, how can you be so sure that we will never know.

 

 

I'm not a bible pusher or bible basher' date=' but believing all that we have today came from LITERALLY nothing (ex, no God, just the big bang) is childish. I'd just rather, not know. That simple.

[/quote']

 

Why is believing in the Big Bang and only the Big Bang childish? Maybe it just sounds logical to people.

 

 

 

Anyway, I haven't seen any serious posts that disagree.

Nobody?

[Flinsbon]

If the Big Bang theory is correct, then there had to have been a reason that the original dense point of matter exploded into the universe and scientists are not sure what it is. I think this is exactly where God fits in. He made it blow up.

[Ecoboy1324]

I have my own theory

Way before the big bang everything was confined into a ball the size of say earth. Now this matter began pulling toward the center due to gravitic forces until the friction became so intense that it exploded in the big bang

[Valkyrie Lupia Blitzer]

This topic is kinda stupid.

 

I don't see a flaw in believing in both God and the Big Bang at the same time.

[Ecoboy1324]

There isn't any flaw in it

[OMGAKITTY]

I have my own theory

Way before the big bang everything was confined into a ball the size of say earth. Now this matter began pulling toward the center due to gravitic forces until the friction became so intense that it exploded in the big bang

 

Your theory has the same kinds of issues as the big bang.

 

Where did the matter come from?

Why is it in a ball the size of earth?

 

And in the end...your theory is still the big bang theory. :/

[Ecoboy1324]

End of one universe Begining of anthor and science cant answer the question of how basic matter came to be becouse no matter how deeply you look there will always be a simpler question

[Exiro]

Fine... Easy answer.

In the beginning' date=' God farted. That fart is known today as the "Big Bang".

[/quote']

 

He better not fart again then.

That'd suck for us all.

 

 

This topic is kinda stupid.

 

I don't see a flaw in believing in both God and the Big Bang at the same time.

 

This interwebs contains lots of peaple and I thought that those peepol would go to this topic and say that it is flawed and I would tell them that they are not worthy of being peeeeeeeeple.

 

But I don't see them, so I think they're disguised as people who don't think it's flawed to believe in both.

[Enrise]

I have my own theory

Way before the big bang everything was confined into a ball the size of say earth. Now this matter began pulling toward the center due to gravitic forces until the friction became so intense that it exploded in the big bang

 

By your logic, that means my theory is just as acceptable?

I shall now praise the Alien gods as Gods after I get over my anti/atheism/agnosticism, which wont be a while.

[Dweller of Parables]

*Insert Deist theory here*

Time God. :O

[Static]

God is an object made in Man's image.

 

Intelligent Consciousness, the way that we commonly think of it (Human intelligence), cannot be the nature of something that exists out of time. It's just not possible for anything biological to sustain a "consciousness" of such proportions.

 

The plausible conclusion to the creation of the universe is that god did not "Will" it into existence, but that it was created by the forces that be, which is, in a nutshell, the big bang and god, but the god isn't a person is all.

 

However, to claim that there was nothing before the big bang is equally stupid. Energy exists, space is a form of energy which can fold due to energy.

 

Basically, there are only thing we can really say about the universe; that the human perspective of the universe is wrong. Our universe logically knows no beginning or end, it will exist for eternity, never ending, never beginning. The other is that it is beautiful and amazing, and that it should be held in reverence because as humans, being without reverence makes one more ego-oriented, which is inherently wrong.

[Flinsbon]

< There r 2 things wrong with that theory...

 

1. The Universe is still expanding, and therefore, had a beginning and is not infinite.

2. If the Universe had a beginning, there must also be an end.

 

The only things that still confuse scientists are...

 

1. What happened at the exact moment the Universe was created.

2. What existed before the creation of the Universe.

3. What will exist after the Universe ends.

[Womi]

If the Big Bang theory is correct' date=' then there had to have been a reason that the original dense point of matter exploded into the universe and scientists are not sure what it is. I think this is exactly where God fits in. [b']He[/b] made it blow up.

 

I think there's another reason why it blew up. I think the "nothing" at the beginning wasn't really a nothing. Everything was comprimated in a onedimensional zone. A zone without any size and expansion. And you can surely imagine that, if all the mass of the universe (!) is comprimated in such a small place that its sizeless, there are unbelieveable big gravitation and temparature forces. The atoms are heating up each other....more and more. And at a certain point it just bombed the limit, and voilá, life started.

 

Did you really consider god as "he"? Do you all think there is a grandpa with white beard sitting in the clouds, who points with the finger at a spot on earth and says "TREE!" and a tree grows? I think, if this oh so great god exists, its some kind of energy, no being which can think and speak. Especially not a human language. Oh please. :roll:

 

I'm done. Next.

[Exiro]

God is an object made in Man's image.

 

Intelligent Consciousness' date=' the way that we commonly think of it (Human intelligence), cannot be the nature of something that exists out of time. It's just not possible for anything biological to sustain a "consciousness" of such proportions.

 

The plausible conclusion to the creation of the universe is that god did not "Will" it into existence, but that it was created by the forces that be, which is, in a nutshell, the big bang and god, but the god isn't a person is all.

 

However, to claim that there was nothing before the big bang is equally stupid. Energy exists, space is a form of energy which can fold due to energy.

 

Basically, there are only thing we can really say about the universe; that the human perspective of the universe is wrong. Our universe logically knows no beginning or end, it will exist for eternity, never ending, never beginning. The other is that it is beautiful and amazing, and that it should be held in reverence because as humans, being without reverence makes one more ego-oriented, which is inherently wrong.

[/quote']

 

Still, the idea of a god is that it's a supernatural being, and can therefore ignore nature.

This makes it very hard to 'catch' the theory of god(s) with any science.

And personally, when someone says something like this, a logical response would then be "Prove that god does exist", but this is about what's wrong with believing in both. I don't see the problem with a god that caused the Big Bang while also ignoring the fact that Intelligent Consciousness cannot be the nature of something that exists out of time.

 

 

If the Big Bang theory is correct' date=' then there had to have been a reason that the original dense point of matter exploded into the universe and scientists are not sure what it is. I think this is exactly where God fits in. [b']He[/b] made it blow up.

 

Did you really consider god as "he"? Do you all think there is a grandpa with white beard sitting in the clouds, who points with the finger at a spot on earth and says "TREE!" and a tree grows? I think, if this oh so great god exists, its some kind of energy, no being which can think and speak. Especially not a human language. Oh please. :roll:

 

'God' has a wider definition that just that.

[Womi]

Unfortunately, yes.

But I'm referring to the "creator"-god.

[OMGAKITTY]

Unfortunately' date=' yes.

But I'm referring to the "creator"-god.

[/quote']

 

I don't think anyone believes in creationism anymore. And I'm pretty sure the Bible never says that God has a flowing white beard. In fact, I'm pretty sure it doesn't state a gender in the original Hebrew writing. God is shown in a fatherly light (the patriarch), but it never comes out and says "God's a dude"