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[chrid97]

Hi guys I haven't been on in like years. Who missed me? So anything new?

[Necro Pheonix]

Hey Chrid! How are you? Long time no talk.

[Max Darkness]

...Konami has dragged "Shooting Star Dragon"'s Synchro Summon over five episodes...it's becoming stupid...

 

(It's like the duels from the first series that spanned four episodes. At least they involved God Cards...)

 

But on a humourous note, Yusei seems convinced the only way to defeat the Synchro killer "Machine Emperor" archetype is to use an Accel Synchro Monster.

 

Forgive me for clearly missing something, but what's wrong with NOT using a Synchro monster against an anti-Synchro archetype? It would be like not using "Consecrated Light" against "Lightsworns", otherwise known as 'common sense'...

 

"Monarchs", "Gladiator Beasts", "Lightsworns", "Relinquished", "Elemental Heroes", "Dark Counterparts", "Dark Worlds", "Spell Counters", "Counter Fairies", "D.D.", "Red-Eyes". These are just some of the archetypes that don't rely on Synchro monsters for their strength. Why, if Yusei is as much of a genius as he supposedly is, doesn't he realise using a Synchro monster against an "Infinity" monster is a very stupid idea?

 

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[Headmaster Monokuma]

Wow, I may just never watched the series now. In other news, I have a copy of Convulsion of Nature now, and I want to work it into a Relenquished whatever deck. Now to see if I have any method to abuse it with.

[Max Darkness]

I've shown you the two obvious ways. It also works with Mill decks since you can easily tell when to activate cards like "Assault on GHQ". One last trick is to use "D.D. Designator", since if you pay attention, you'll know exactly what cards are in your opponent's hand.

 

Plus, with a Ritual Deck, it can generate easy Tribute fodder.

[Xand]

@ Xand: How many people play RFP Decks these days? Almost no-one because they don't have Synchros. The only staple RFP cards are "Dark Core" and "Dimensionhole"' date=' and even they aren't used very much.

 

Plus, RFP cards are much rarer than simple destroy cards, so the chance of your drawing one in the two or so turns you have while facing your attack-and-kill-absolutely-everything monster are rather slight. Why not just "Lightning Vortex" or "Rageki Break" it until my opponent decides 200 Life Points and an empty hand isn't a good position to be in.

 

 

@ Jolta: It's the original artwork.

 

As for your card, the ATK needs to drop. 4500 ATK is the realm of the Level 12s. This is easy to summon since you could use any of the LIGHT staples in your hand with one of the "Ice Barrier" monsters, like the broken mess that is "Brionac". So in two turns, you have as much firepower as a "Blue-Eyes Ultimate" staring down at your opponent.

 

Also, Spirit Monsters usually have very strong effects, but average or even below-average ATK and DEF. This needs to become a 3500/3000 at most. Along with that, a coin toss that has no negative outcomes is broken. So far, every single coin toss has had something undesirable. This, it doesn't matter which way it lands, you blow up your opponent's field regardless. I'd consider a re-think.

 

 

[b']OCG:[/b]

 

1 WATER Synchro monster + 1 LIGHT monster

This card can only be Special Summoned from the Extra Deck by Fusion Summon. During the End Phase of the turn this card was Summoned, this card is returned to the Extra Deck. When this card battles with a monster equipped with a Union Monster, before damage calculation, remove from play the Union Monster and return the equipped monster to its owner's hand. That monster's effect(s) is negated. ...

 

@Max Darkness: Really? I've used rfp cards with synchro monsters and a couple tuner monsters before...whatever...the point was meant that it isn't indestructable but I've decided to fix it later anyway. :D

 

@Everyone: This card is ment for laughing at (if you want to) :D

 

 

XD

[Max Darkness]

@ Xand: But was it a dedicated RFP deck, designed to empty both player's Graveyards? Or did you put the RFP staples into a Synchro Deck?

 

And it doesn't matter that it can be destroyed if it can Special Summon itself.

 

As for the card, don't make Vanillas.

[Shadow Zero]

Max, some of us actually like making vanillas, okay? So please do not tell us what we should or should not do when it comes to making a specific type of card, and just let us know what (if any) is wrong with a persons card.

[Guest KeyBladeSpartan]

Club Username:keybladealtair

Why you want to join:cuz i wanna help newbz

Favorite Card:red eyes black dragon

Do you play the game in real life:what game?

How you were referred to the club:i saw a link in Mr.Wham's sig

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Club Username:keybladealtair

Why you want to join:cuz i wanna help newbz

Favorite Card:red eyes black dragon

Do you play the game in real life:what game?

How you were referred to the club:i saw a link in Mr.WHAM's sig

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Club Username:keybladealtair

Why you want to join:cuz i wanna help newbz

Favorite Card:red eyes black dragon

Do you play the game in real life:what game?

How you were referred to the club:i saw a link in Mr.WHAM's sig

[Jolta]

I too like Vanillas. You could use them with Lycanthrope, or have them boiled! I mean, use them. Yeah. Apparently I made a Psychic-Type Vanilla.

 

Anyways, here are two cards I recently made.

 

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This card is also treated as "Umi". While this card is face-up on the field, reduce the Level of all WATER monsters in your hand by up to 5. When this card is destroyed, remove 1 WATER monster in your Graveyard from play instead.

 

This card is awesome with Daedulus. Regular Daedu-dudette. I mean dude.

 

And thats Eria. The Water dudette.

 

Once per turn, you must discard the Top 5 cards on your Deck. If not, destroy this card. For each "Fabled" monster discarded by this card's Effect, remove 1 card in your opponent's Graveyard from play.

 

I hope none of you ask Wuts Fabled.

 

[Necro Pheonix]

wuts "Fabled"?

 

Good cards Jolta, althought I believe Sanctaury is overpowered. You can summon any WATER monster that doesnt need to be special summoned without a cost, and then there's also a small cost to keep it in play, if it is destroyed. Add some more of a cost.

 

As for teh second card, I'm not particularly familiar with teh fabled monsters, so I cant give you a fair revew.

 

keybladealtair accepted.

[Jolta]

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Fabled

 

Yup, they are a Deck that focuses on discarding cards, thus can be coupled with Lightsworns and Dark World.

[Necro Pheonix]

Hm, in that case I try to find it an interesting effect to be mixed in with fables. Despite the fact that they need to have cards discarded to activate their effects, you decided to send teh top 5 cards of your deck to the grave, not activating the effects. Then, with every Fabled monster gone, you can remove 1 card in your opponents grave from play. Useful against zombie and lightsworns, yes, but I find it an interesting combo with fables.

[Lexadin]

Actually Lex' date=' you should only let it gain its chaining effect when it's Special Summoned through its own effect, otherwise a DARK Turbo Deck could use and abuse it so much. You might also want to make it a Level 8. It doesn't have any reason to be a Level 9 really.

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You got a point there, I shall change the lore a bit to make it less abusable.

I made it a lvl 9 becouse it has a powerfull effect and high stats compared to other lvl 8's. So I'll keep it at lvl 9.

[Max Darkness]

Max' date=' some of us actually [b']like[/b] making vanillas, okay? So please do not tell us what we should or should not do when it comes to making a specific type of card, and just let us know what (if any) is wrong with a persons card.

 

Can't see why.

 

Okay, you'd only use a Normal Monster in a Vanilla Deck OR for their high stats. And to that end, only "Charcoal Inapachi", "Gene-Warped Werewolf" and "Blue-Eyes White Dragon" are useable Vanillas.

 

A Vanilla that does not have high stats for its Level, ie under 2000 ATK or DEF (Level 4 and below), under 2600 ATK or 3000 DEF (Level 5 and 6) or under 3000 ATK (Level 7 and 8) is not useful at all since there are Effect monsters that can equal their stats and provide an additional strategy.

 

"The Creator" for example. 3000 DEF (same as Level 5 Vanillas) but it has 2300 ATK and can endlessly Special Summon. Level 8 Vanillas can only equal its DEF but can't do anything else.

 

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Club Username:keybladealtair

Why you want to join:cuz i wanna help newbz

Favorite Card:red eyes black dragon

Do you play the game in real life:what game?

How you were referred to the club:i saw a link in Mr.Wham's sig

 

Accepted. It's the new page glitch that's causing it not to show up.

 

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This card is also treated as "Umi". While this card is face-up on the field' date=' reduce the Level of all WATER monsters in your hand by up to 5. When this card is destroyed, remove 1 WATER monster in your Graveyard from play instead.

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It's like "Cost Down" but without a cost and an even stronger effect or "Star Blast" but with no cost and it affects all the monsters in your hand(!) So with this I could easily summon any of:

 

"Ocean Lord Daedalus": Field Destruction

"DeepSea King Coelancanth": Swarming

"B.E.S. Crystal Core": 2100 ATK with Battle Immunity

"Blizzard Princess": + "Gravity Bind" = Spell/Trap Lockdown and 2800 ATK

"Cloudian-Nimbusman" + "Gravity Bind" = Battle immunity and 2500 + ATK

"Cranium Fish": Spell/Trap Destruction

"Dai-Sojo of the Ice Barrier": "Ice Barrer" Spell/Trap Immunity from the off.

"Frostosaurus": 2600 ATK

The "Ice Barrier General" monsters: 2700 or 2800 ATK swarmers

 

etc. (I'm only up to 'G')

 

 

So it's a card that allows any Level 9 or lower WATER monster to be summoned on the first turn. I'm sorry, but just how broken did you want this to be?

 

 

Once per turn' date=' you must discard the Top 5 cards on your Deck. If not, destroy this card. For each "Fabled" monster discarded by this card's Effect, remove 1 card in your opponent's Graveyard from play.

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I'd change the name to something more demonic, such as "Accursed Thoughts" or "Dark Machinations". "Dirty Thoughts" just doesn't fit in with the whole 'Fallen Angel' aesthetic of the "Fableds".

 

So, you will be able to quickly summon "Judgment Dragon", but if your opponent knows your strategy and has "Light of Destruction", you'll be losing at least 8 cards per turn from your Deck. If they combine that with a dedicated RFP mill Deck, you could lose over 14 cards in one turn, and all will be RFPed. (Flip Summoned "Needle Worm" + "Assault on GHQ")

 

You could Deck out in 4 turns, maybe less. And both your and your opponent's Graveyards will be empty due to "Dimensional Fissure", "Macro Cosmos" or "Soul Release". Heck, if they activate "Grand Convergence", you'll be even more stuck.

 

And after all this furious self-milling, you might remove 3 cards in your opponent's Graveyard from play, and lose 2 or more good Spells or Traps. (If an "Imperial Iron Wall" goes due to this card, it won't seem such a good idea to keep it...)

 

Finally, what Necro said is true. You can't discard from your Deck, only Send. So their effects can't activate.

 

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wuts "Fabled"?

 

AKA 'Fiend Roar Deity'

[Mr.WHAM]

Damn, O.o I gotta reread Max's rantys

 

also Despearate Times & desperate mesures were inspired by your fan fics... And I never said the cards weren't broken but he conditions to activate them make it so you can only do it once like 2000 to 1600 - 1500 = 500 to 100 LPs. I think if your that despeate enough to pay those lifepoints for the card then it better be worth it. oher wise you wont be able to use it. thats for desperate times.

 

Desperate measures depends on desperate time s so you only have again 500-100 lifepoints unless you've managed to do well enough not to die wich can only be acheievd through very few cards....

However I do need to fix it so you can't activate the cards that you set that turn. And it is not as awesome as monster reborn b/c you can't do anything with the card. It wuud be a stall card until your next turn which you could be killed with with OOzaki...

 

I mean I did name them desperate for a reason...you have to be desperate to use the, but then again...

[Shadow Zero]

Yes, I suppose you do have to be desperate to use them.

 

And Mr.Wham, I have explained things in the planning thread, and also delivered something akin to an ultimatum. (sorry, it had to be done)

 

I'm about to check out a LoZ ff that takes place in modern times. O.O I'm going to see how well or badly it was done, and I'll give you guys updates occasionally.

[Max Darkness]

http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/thread-203394.html

 

New cards from me. A "Gate Guardian" remake and a "Needle Burrower" upgrade.

 

 

@ Shadow: Using and making them are different. They can be used (in fact I do like "Charcoal Inapachi" since it's 2100 DEF and perfect "Relinquished" or "Monarch" fodder), but my reasoning for not making Vanillas is simply 'Why not give it an effect?'

[Mr.WHAM]

I pulled a luster dragon.

 

I made a card that was a vanilla, but then I made a more powerful form and it was an effect. I believe you all saw it. It was called Jack's Dragon

 

And one of the reasons why people make Vanillas is t give them a story. Which by the way Max, you usually do for your cards...whether it is conscious or not.

[Xand]

@Max Darkness: Hey, that card is meant to look at and laugh or enjoy...not frown apon:D

Do you not like Normal Monsters? (Vanilla=Normal Monsters?) :)

[Necro Pheonix]

A good majority of YCM doesnt. They find them bland and uncreative.

[Xand]

@Necro Pheonix: Hmm...:( thats sad there are some really good card out there!!! Thx for answering and I'll keep that in mind, though I was going to make a card to go with it to tell you the truth. ;D

[Necro Pheonix]

Well, my belief is, that if someone were to make a vanilla, but they have good support card(s) to go with it, then it is ok. I believe that anyone though can make a simple vanilla in 30 seconds, while others who put more effort into their card deserve the rates more.

[Xand]

k will fix a effect monster card called Drago to go with it as well...maybe some spells but I don't think I wan to go that far with it...like I said it was just for fun. Oh and Nice Avatar Pic. :)

[Necro Pheonix]

Thank you! I payd quite a price for it and its siggy, but it was worth it.