Crow™ Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Prohibition? D= What's wrong with it? O.oIt's just a odd choice to me....? During Game 1' date=' you could easily determine what the key card(s) in my opponent's deck are. Prohibition essentially bans them, making it easier to beat the enemy.[/quote']O I C.Nvm then! I think it looks fine Bro. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted August 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Thanks! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 So how is it play testing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted August 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 So how is it play testing? The Main Deck was slowed down by the banlist. Without the ability to nuke whenever Scopen is played, it's a little bit more difficult, just a little. That's not the only thing that's slowed it down, but the searchability with One for One is the only thing that sped it up. The deck's still getting lolwutOTKs, but not as often, and has to deal with its problems in a more conservative manner, it's been bad. Also, my dropping a Scopen was as good as it is bad. A second one was only run before for a more consistant nuke, but my Synchros have barely been able to make an impact with DSF gone. The Extra Deck's tested just fine. AFD + ASW*2 + Map = OTK. xD It's taken the biggest blow, but still does the job. The Side deck is untested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Sadly, I think well made Equip Morphs will be spearheading Morphs for a while D: It's the 1-4-1 hit that affected Morphs the most. Removing just one slowed the decks down so much... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted August 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 I see how removing one slowed them down, but you seem to be exaggerating on its impact. The main hits to Morphs were BRD and DSF, but their main strategies remain intact. I think they're getting closer to equal, OTK Morphs only got a little slower. You just have to play it smarter, I'm not adjusted yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Equip Morphs weren't really hit except for the -1 1-4-1, I'm not saying OTK Morphs won't stay up there, but with Equip Morphs only really needing 1 BRD to OTK, consistency is the battle now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted August 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 OTK Morphs aso only need the 1 BRD, the second was was just an often-used luxury. xD Consistency is basically the main difference here, but I don't see how one can claim more consistency over the other... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 It all depends on the build of each type. Speaking of Equip Morphs, my PTD Morphs needs changes... The deck looks good. We can't really figure out what to change until you try it at a tourney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted August 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 It all depends on the build of each type. Speaking of Equip Morphs' date=' my PTD Morphs needs changes... The deck looks good. We can't really figure out what to change until you try it at a tourney.[/quote'] Glad to see I reminded you. xP Anyways, I've tried this deck in online tourneys, though it was all 1/1 and not 2/3, GBs killed brutally murdered the deck, as did BWs. Well, not really, but they never stay down long enough to die. >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted August 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 Crazy idea: a single copy of Light End Dragon? Anyways, I'm interested in what DAZ and Syncrow think of changing after seeing this is action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 Uhhh... +1 Scopen ftw? D: Sorry, that's about all I got... You have quite decent lvl 7s now and that would mean more ASW plays and might make it easier and to make the space, and yes I know this is an absolutly insane and crazy idea, maybe just try it without Cyber Dragon/FuFu/Overload Fusion. Not that they are bad, but it's just a thought. You could make this into an ASW Turbo ftw deck but keep the Morph OTK aspect also for more flexability. That's all I can think of to try to speed it up. P.S. You could side CyDra/FuFu/OF incase you ever go mirror matched. Edit: You could add +2 Scopen if you like the ASW Turbo OTK deck idea, and maybe 1 Magnet Circle for the last card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted August 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 Uhhh... +1 Scopen ftw? D: Sorry' date=' that's about all I got... You have quite decent lvl 7s now and that would mean more ASW plays and might make it easier and to make the space, and yes I know this is an absolutly insane and crazy idea, maybe just try it without Cyber Dragon/FuFu/Overload Fusion. Not that they are bad, but it's just a thought. You could make this into an ASW Turbo ftw deck but keep the Morph OTK aspect also for more flexability. That's all I can think of to try to speed it up. P.S. You could side CyDra/FuFu/OF incase you ever go mirror matched. Edit: You could add +2 Scopen if you like the ASW Turbo OTK deck idea, and maybe 1 Magnet Circle for the last card[/quote'] Actually, FF actually sped the deck up ridiculously when it was added. Taking it out could slow me down quite a bit. I like the second Scopen idea, do you have an idea of what to remove for that? I don't like the ASW Turbo, ASW only ever has better use than AFD early game, since it combos with AFD to OTK. That's why I ran 2 of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 Remove 1 of Boarden or Boomboxen, whichever you think will have less impact. I'll probably try the ASW Turbo, but to do that turbo, you wouldn't need to change the Extra Deck at all, probably, esspecially if you just kept CyDra/FuFu/OF sided. Btw, net deck to modify for simplicity's sake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted August 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 Remove 1 of Boarden or Boomboxen' date=' whichever you think will have less impact. I'll probably try the ASW Turbo, but to do that turbo, you wouldn't need to change the Extra Deck at all, probably, esspecially if you just kept CyDra/FuFu/OF sided. Btw, net deck to modify for simplicity's sake[/quote'] Give it a shot... Unfortunate that Ancient Leaf wouldn't work well that way. Anyways, my thinking ease me to a copy of dupe. Think about it, I've been running 3 copies for 3 targets. >.< What do you think? I think that's the least impactful removal possible, but that would be tested heavily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 True... -1 Machine Dupe is probably the best decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted August 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 OK Done. Will test tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted August 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Tests say that the change works. I haven't been drawing Dupe as often, but that also makes it not be dead as often. Also, the second Scopen has been useful. BUMP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 From your side: -1 Morph Forcefield-1 Prohibition-1 Mirror of Oaths +2 Remoten+1 Dupe And from Extra: -1 PTD (not really needed)-0-1 ASW (?)or-0-1 Dust, though I doubt you will do that. +1-2 XX-Saber Gottoms I still think you should try siding the CyDra combos for mirror matches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted August 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 From your side: -1 Morph Forcefield-1 Prohibition-1 Mirror of Oaths +2 Remoten+1 Dupe And from Extra: -1 PTD (not really needed)-0-1 ASW (?)or-0-1 Dust' date=' though I doubt you will do that. +1-2 XX-Saber Gottoms I still think you should try siding the CyDra combos for mirror matches[/quote'] Actually, there are situations where PTD > ASW and AFD. When I'm losing, ASW's ridiculously weak. When facing anti-defense decks (like my brother), AFD is a no. I'll just neg an ASW for one. I doubt a second will be necessary. My side deck is pretty full, so I can't side CyDra's combo. I'll do the other changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 From your side: -1 Morph Forcefield-1 Prohibition-1 Mirror of Oaths +2 Remoten+1 Dupe And from Extra: -1 PTD (not really needed)-0-1 ASW (?)or-0-1 Dust' date=' though I doubt you will do that. +1-2 XX-Saber Gottoms I still think you should try siding the CyDra combos for mirror matches[/quote'] Actually, there are situations where PTD > ASW and AFD. When I'm losing, ASW's ridiculously weak. When facing anti-defense decks (like my brother), AFD is a no. I'll just neg an ASW for one. I doubt a second will be necessary. My side deck is pretty full, so I can't side CyDra's combo. I'll do the other changes. You could if you mained the Remotens and the Dupe and sided out another card. Now I realize you might need Tuningware... maybe, what do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted August 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 From your side: -1 Morph Forcefield-1 Prohibition-1 Mirror of Oaths +2 Remoten+1 Dupe And from Extra: -1 PTD (not really needed)-0-1 ASW (?)or-0-1 Dust' date=' though I doubt you will do that. +1-2 XX-Saber Gottoms I still think you should try siding the CyDra combos for mirror matches[/quote'] Actually, there are situations where PTD > ASW and AFD. When I'm losing, ASW's ridiculously weak. When facing anti-defense decks (like my brother), AFD is a no. I'll just neg an ASW for one. I doubt a second will be necessary. My side deck is pretty full, so I can't side CyDra's combo. I'll do the other changes. You could if you mained the Remotens and the Dupe and sided out another card. Now I realize you might need Tuningware... maybe, what do you think? ...what else would be sided? ... A Boarden, I guess. I'll do that and see what happens. Testing that's low priority tho, as the cards I'd have to but haven't changed. Tuningware... Nah. I can top off Synchros with Celfon, and I have enough draw as-is, especially with Remoten. Power Tool still needs to stay, to be a LV7 beater when I have Remoten and no dupe. I can't summon Wyvern with it. What other card could be dropped for a second Gottoms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 I wouldn't worry about a second Gottoms as getting 3 EARTH on the field besides 3 Remoten is very, very hard if you want them to equal 9. Btw, you could make it high priority to test it vs. my Zombie Charge build and soon-to-be-edited PTD Morph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted August 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 I wouldn't worry about a second Gottoms as getting 3 EARTH on the field besides 3 Remoten is very' date=' very hard if you want them to equal 9. Btw, you could make it high priority to test it vs. my Zombie Charge build and soon-to-be-edited PTD Morph[/quote'] True. The only possibility, aside from Remoten + 2x Boarden is Scopen + Boomboxen + Celfon. I'll gladly test it against you. xD I'm updating the article to include Gottoms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 I wouldn't worry about a second Gottoms as getting 3 EARTH on the field besides 3 Remoten is very' date=' very hard if you want them to equal 9. Btw, you could make it high priority to test it vs. my Zombie Charge build and soon-to-be-edited PTD Morph[/quote'] True. The only possibility, aside from Remoten + 2x Boarden is Scopen + Boomboxen + Celfon. I'll gladly test it against you. xD I'm updating the article to include Gottoms. K then, see you in a few min as I want to edit my PTD Morphs before trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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