Torture.

[~/Coolio Prime\~]

And waterboarding isn't that bad anyway.

 

Because you would know.

[Sparta™]

I take it you don't think it is horrible? Have you ever been tortured before? If you have' date=' I bet you would not have liked it.

[/quote']

 

Fine. Let's say you were about to get bombed. But you can stop it by asking this terrorist, exactly, step by step. he won't answer. So, by the sound of what you're saying, you wouldn't do s*** and won't torture, to save lives of your people.

 

That's Ok though, you can blow up, I can save the innocent.

 

Okay, so you're this innocent muslim right? Stupid Republicans think you're a terrorist because of your religion and appearance and take you into a prison complex with little or no charges, right? Then they ask you random questions, okay? You don't know any of the answers, so they torture you by bringing you within an inch of your life and simulating the aspect of drowning and shocking you and you didn't even do anything to earn this hell on earth, okay?

 

That's okay though, you can torture people who won't talk will say whatever you want them to say regardless or don't know what you're talking about for sick kicks, but I'm going to be humane.

 

 

Dude, if you're just some Republican machine perfectly instructed to follow your parents' path just stay out of Debates.

 

If you have links to terrorists, or family members, then we can ask you a few questions. If you go around admitting it, we'll torture the s*** out of you. Get what I'm saying?

 

IMMA TERRORIST IMMA TERRORIST IMMA BLOW UP THE USA!!!

 

Come and get me bish.

 

Terrorists work in cells, catching some guy off the street isn't going to give you any real information.

"Go around admitting it" doesn't necessarily mean the streets.

 

And it's obvious you aren't serious.

 

Seriousness > Sarcasm

 

Oh that's right, we can invade people's privacy now and tap their phone lines and read their mail. Its not like any crazy dictators named Stalin did stuff like that too, no sir.

 

Oh, so instead of saving lives, you'd rather give "terrorists" for all you know, privacy?

 

And waterboarding isn't that bad anyway.

 

Because you would know.

 

Because it's pouring water in your face. Going to the public pool is just as bad. >_>

[OMGAKITTY]

I take it you don't think it is horrible? Have you ever been tortured before? If you have' date=' I bet you would not have liked it.

[/quote']

 

Fine. Let's say you were about to get bombed. But you can stop it by asking this terrorist, exactly, step by step. he won't answer. So, by the sound of what you're saying, you wouldn't do s*** and won't torture, to save lives of your people.

 

That's Ok though, you can blow up, I can save the innocent.

 

Okay, so you're this innocent muslim right? Stupid Republicans think you're a terrorist because of your religion and appearance and take you into a prison complex with little or no charges, right? Then they ask you random questions, okay? You don't know any of the answers, so they torture you by bringing you within an inch of your life and simulating the aspect of drowning and shocking you and you didn't even do anything to earn this hell on earth, okay?

 

That's okay though, you can torture people who won't talk will say whatever you want them to say regardless or don't know what you're talking about for sick kicks, but I'm going to be humane.

 

 

Dude, if you're just some Republican machine perfectly instructed to follow your parents' path just stay out of Debates.

 

If you have links to terrorists, or family members, then we can ask you a few questions. If you go around admitting it, we'll torture the s*** out of you. Get what I'm saying?

 

IMMA TERRORIST IMMA TERRORIST IMMA BLOW UP THE USA!!!

 

Come and get me bish.

 

Terrorists work in cells, catching some guy off the street isn't going to give you any real information.

"Go around admitting it" doesn't necessarily mean the streets.

 

And it's obvious you aren't serious.

 

Seriousness > Sarcasm

 

Oh that's right, we can invade people's privacy now and tap their phone lines and read their mail. Its not like any crazy dictators named Stalin did stuff like that too, no sir.

 

Oh, so instead of saving lives, you'd rather give "terrorists" for all you know, privacy?

 

 

Oh, what's that? Your name is Achmed and you've lived in the States all your life? Don't mind us, we're just going through your house without a warrant. You'll be called in for questioning later regardless of what we find.

[Dark]

Oh, so instead of saving lives, you'd rather give "terrorists" for all you know, privacy?

 

Obviously if you know someone is a terrorist, and you have imperical evidence, you can take it to a court of law.

 

If you think someone is a terrorist, for all you know, they could NOT be. And torturing them would be in inhumane thing to do.

[Sparta™]

Obviously' date=' saying that I am planning a terroristic threat means the government can [i']obviously[/i] torture me even though they have no proof of a terroristic threat other than a single claim from a single person. Obviously.

 

If it was "ONE PERSON" we would interrogate. If it were "MULTIPLE PEOPLE" we would what do is so evil, waterboarding, or pouring a gallon of water in somebody's face. >_>

 

So' date=' explain to me the real reason for going to war with Iraq. WoMD? No. We haven't found any WoMD in Iraq. But guess what? IRAQ HAS OIL.

[/quote']

 

Maybe because there were a bunch of pissed off muslims that murdered the lives of Americans? Ever think of that?

 

How does having multiple people = different techniques >_>

That make no sense.

because multiple witnesses > one witness

 

And waterboarding isn't that bad anyway.

 

Why would that change the technique? Are you implying they don't try as hard to get information when there's only one guy?

 

I'm saying is that if it's one person, we don't really know if it's true or not. If it's multiple people, there is a better chance of that being true.

 

In fact, now that I think of it, if it was one person, I would just call him crazy.

 

Oh' date=' so instead of saving lives, you'd rather give "terrorists" for all you know, privacy?[/i']

 

Obviously if you know someone is a terrorist, and you have imperical evidence, you can take it to a court of law.

 

If you think someone is a terrorist, for all you know, they could NOT be. And torturing them would be in inhumane thing to do.

 

So emailing "Let's go bomb the white house tomorrow" and planning how it works, isn't proof?

[~/Coolio Prime\~]

Because it's pouring water in your face. Going to the public pool is just as bad. >_>

Way to prove your ignorance for me. Waterboarding is simulating the horrible process of drowning and stopping right before it's over. If you tried doing this to yourself you would stop way before interrogators did because of the sheer hopelessness and pains it causes.

 

And don't say that torture is so effective and then say waterboarding isn't bad. >_> If it was "the equivalent of going to a public pool" then why would it be an effective means of getting information?

 

edit: We are of course assuming under this circumstance that inflicting pain is actually a good way of retrieving information.

[Sparta™]

I take it you don't think it is horrible? Have you ever been tortured before? If you have' date=' I bet you would not have liked it.

[/quote']

 

Fine. Let's say you were about to get bombed. But you can stop it by asking this terrorist, exactly, step by step. he won't answer. So, by the sound of what you're saying, you wouldn't do s*** and won't torture, to save lives of your people.

 

That's Ok though, you can blow up, I can save the innocent.

 

Okay, so you're this innocent muslim right? Stupid Republicans think you're a terrorist because of your religion and appearance and take you into a prison complex with little or no charges, right? Then they ask you random questions, okay? You don't know any of the answers, so they torture you by bringing you within an inch of your life and simulating the aspect of drowning and shocking you and you didn't even do anything to earn this hell on earth, okay?

 

That's okay though, you can torture people who won't talk will say whatever you want them to say regardless or don't know what you're talking about for sick kicks, but I'm going to be humane.

 

 

Dude, if you're just some Republican machine perfectly instructed to follow your parents' path just stay out of Debates.

 

If you have links to terrorists, or family members, then we can ask you a few questions. If you go around admitting it, we'll torture the s*** out of you. Get what I'm saying?

 

IMMA TERRORIST IMMA TERRORIST IMMA BLOW UP THE USA!!!

 

Come and get me bish.

 

Terrorists work in cells, catching some guy off the street isn't going to give you any real information.

"Go around admitting it" doesn't necessarily mean the streets.

 

And it's obvious you aren't serious.

 

Seriousness > Sarcasm

 

Oh that's right, we can invade people's privacy now and tap their phone lines and read their mail. Its not like any crazy dictators named Stalin did stuff like that too, no sir.

 

Oh, so instead of saving lives, you'd rather give "terrorists" for all you know, privacy?

 

 

Oh, what's that? Your name is Achmed and you've lived in the States all your life? Don't mind us, we're just going through your house without a warrant. You'll be called in for questioning later regardless of what we find.

 

I meant like searching through the email, and tapping phone calls, IF you have a record of terrorizing or a criminal record.

 

You make it sound like the Army would barge through every muslim house. That's just stupid.

[~/Coolio Prime\~]

You make it sound like the Army would barge through every muslim house. That's just stupid.

 

Yeah, the Iraq war is pretty stupid.

[OMGAKITTY]

I take it you don't think it is horrible? Have you ever been tortured before? If you have' date=' I bet you would not have liked it.

[/quote']

 

Fine. Let's say you were about to get bombed. But you can stop it by asking this terrorist, exactly, step by step. he won't answer. So, by the sound of what you're saying, you wouldn't do s*** and won't torture, to save lives of your people.

 

That's Ok though, you can blow up, I can save the innocent.

 

Okay, so you're this innocent muslim right? Stupid Republicans think you're a terrorist because of your religion and appearance and take you into a prison complex with little or no charges, right? Then they ask you random questions, okay? You don't know any of the answers, so they torture you by bringing you within an inch of your life and simulating the aspect of drowning and shocking you and you didn't even do anything to earn this hell on earth, okay?

 

That's okay though, you can torture people who won't talk will say whatever you want them to say regardless or don't know what you're talking about for sick kicks, but I'm going to be humane.

 

 

Dude, if you're just some Republican machine perfectly instructed to follow your parents' path just stay out of Debates.

 

If you have links to terrorists, or family members, then we can ask you a few questions. If you go around admitting it, we'll torture the s*** out of you. Get what I'm saying?

 

IMMA TERRORIST IMMA TERRORIST IMMA BLOW UP THE USA!!!

 

Come and get me bish.

 

Terrorists work in cells, catching some guy off the street isn't going to give you any real information.

"Go around admitting it" doesn't necessarily mean the streets.

 

And it's obvious you aren't serious.

 

Seriousness > Sarcasm

 

Oh that's right, we can invade people's privacy now and tap their phone lines and read their mail. Its not like any crazy dictators named Stalin did stuff like that too, no sir.

 

Oh, so instead of saving lives, you'd rather give "terrorists" for all you know, privacy?

 

 

Oh, what's that? Your name is Achmed and you've lived in the States all your life? Don't mind us, we're just going through your house without a warrant. You'll be called in for questioning later regardless of what we find.

 

I meant like searching through the email, and tapping phone calls, IF you have a record of terrorizing or a criminal record.

 

You make it sound like the Army would barge through every muslim house. That's just stupid.

 

 

 

Maybe because there were a bunch of pissed off muslims that murdered the lives of Americans? Ever think of that?

 

 

I lol'd.

 

Because in America, we believe that once a criminal, always a criminal. No redemption for you, no sir.

[Sparta™]

Because it's pouring water in your face. Going to the public pool is just as bad. >_>

Way to prove your ignorance for me. Waterboarding is simulating the horrible process of drowning and stopping right before it's over. If you tried doing this to yourself you would stop way before interrogators did because of the sheer hopelessness and pains it causes.

 

And don't say that torture is so effective and then say waterboarding isn't bad. >_> If it was "the equivalent of going to a public pool" then why would it be an effective means of getting information?

 

Because it's continuous, and it's not that either.

 

We put a normal, non-poisonous, tiny spider in a cell with no way of the spider getting out. >_>.

 

 

I kill those every day.

 

waterboarding is pouring water in your face. You don't drown. You choke on water for 20-30 seconds, cough, and repeat. >_<

[Dark]

You make it sound like the Army would barge through every muslim house. That's just stupid.

 

Yeah' date=' the Iraq war is pretty stupid.

[/quote']

 

B-b-but daddy! The people in Iraq have WoMD. Even though we haven't found anything yet, they still have them! And we are obviously not going there for oil. It's not like gas prices went down at all between 2001 and 2003. The Iraq War was a genius plan by Bush, and you cannot deny that.

[Sparta™]

I take it you don't think it is horrible? Have you ever been tortured before? If you have' date=' I bet you would not have liked it.

[/quote']

 

Fine. Let's say you were about to get bombed. But you can stop it by asking this terrorist, exactly, step by step. he won't answer. So, by the sound of what you're saying, you wouldn't do s*** and won't torture, to save lives of your people.

 

That's Ok though, you can blow up, I can save the innocent.

 

Okay, so you're this innocent muslim right? Stupid Republicans think you're a terrorist because of your religion and appearance and take you into a prison complex with little or no charges, right? Then they ask you random questions, okay? You don't know any of the answers, so they torture you by bringing you within an inch of your life and simulating the aspect of drowning and shocking you and you didn't even do anything to earn this hell on earth, okay?

 

That's okay though, you can torture people who won't talk will say whatever you want them to say regardless or don't know what you're talking about for sick kicks, but I'm going to be humane.

 

 

Dude, if you're just some Republican machine perfectly instructed to follow your parents' path just stay out of Debates.

 

If you have links to terrorists, or family members, then we can ask you a few questions. If you go around admitting it, we'll torture the s*** out of you. Get what I'm saying?

 

IMMA TERRORIST IMMA TERRORIST IMMA BLOW UP THE USA!!!

 

Come and get me bish.

 

Terrorists work in cells, catching some guy off the street isn't going to give you any real information.

"Go around admitting it" doesn't necessarily mean the streets.

 

And it's obvious you aren't serious.

 

Seriousness > Sarcasm

 

Oh that's right, we can invade people's privacy now and tap their phone lines and read their mail. Its not like any crazy dictators named Stalin did stuff like that too, no sir.

 

Oh, so instead of saving lives, you'd rather give "terrorists" for all you know, privacy?

 

 

Oh, what's that? Your name is Achmed and you've lived in the States all your life? Don't mind us, we're just going through your house without a warrant. You'll be called in for questioning later regardless of what we find.

 

I meant like searching through the email, and tapping phone calls, IF you have a record of terrorizing or a criminal record.

 

You make it sound like the Army would barge through every muslim house. That's just stupid.

 

 

 

Maybe because there were a bunch of pissed off muslims that murdered the lives of Americans? Ever think of that?

 

 

I lol'd.

 

Because in America' date=' we believe that once a criminal, always a criminal. No redemption for you, no sir.[/b']

 

 

I lol'd because I believe that.

 

Nobody should regain EVERY SINGLE one of the freedoms for breaking the law.

[Dark]

I jaywalked once. My freedom of speech is taken away.

 

I got into a car accident once. My right to a lawyer is taken away.

 

This logic is fun.

[OMGAKITTY]

I jaywalked once. My freedom of speech is taken away.

 

I got into a car accident once. My right to a lawyer is taken away.

 

This logic is fun.

 

I once said I didn't like the president. Men dressed in black came and took me a way and beat me for 3 days.

 

amidoinitrite?

[~/Coolio Prime\~]

Because it's pouring water in your face. Going to the public pool is just as bad. >_>

Way to prove your ignorance for me. Waterboarding is simulating the horrible process of drowning and stopping right before it's over. If you tried doing this to yourself you would stop way before interrogators did because of the sheer hopelessness and pains it causes.

 

And don't say that torture is so effective and then say waterboarding isn't bad. >_> If it was "the equivalent of going to a public pool" then why would it be an effective means of getting information?

 

Because it's continuous' date=' and it's not that either.

 

We put a normal, non-poisonous, tiny spider in a cell with no way of the spider getting out. >_>.

 

 

I kill those every day.

 

waterboarding is pouring water in your face. You don't drown. You choke on water for 20-30 seconds, cough, and repeat. >_<

[/quote']

The first half of your retort is unintelligible, so I'll just respond to the last paragraph.

 

WHAT THE HEEEEEEEEELLL. I said it simulates the experience of drowning. The period from when you're underwater to your death is drowning. They stop right before you die, so you've experienced everything that happens when you drown save the solitude of death.

 

And once more, I'm sure that's never happened to you.

 

 

B-b-but daddy! The people in Iraq have WoMD. Even though we haven't found anything yet' date=' they still have them! And we are obviously not going there for oil. It's not like gas prices went down at all between 2001 and 2003. The Iraq War was a genius plan by Bush, and you cannot deny that.

[/quote']

Add sarcasm tags before computerwhiz starts agreeing with you.

[Dark]

I jaywalked once. My freedom of speech is taken away.

 

I got into a car accident once. My right to a lawyer is taken away.

 

This logic is fun.

 

I once said I didn't like the president. Men dressed in black came and took me a way and beat me for 3 days.

 

amidoinitrite?

 

No. If you say you don't like the President' date=' it's 5 days. Not 3.

 

Because it's pouring water in your face. Going to the public pool is just as bad. >_>

Way to prove your ignorance for me. Waterboarding is simulating the horrible process of drowning and stopping right before it's over. If you tried doing this to yourself you would stop way before interrogators did because of the sheer hopelessness and pains it causes.

 

And don't say that torture is so effective and then say waterboarding isn't bad. >_> If it was "the equivalent of going to a public pool" then why would it be an effective means of getting information?

 

Because it's continuous' date=' and it's not that either.

 

We put a normal, non-poisonous, tiny spider in a cell with no way of the spider getting out. >_>.

 

 

I kill those every day.

 

waterboarding is pouring water in your face. You don't drown. You choke on water for 20-30 seconds, cough, and repeat. >_<

[/quote']

The first half of your retort is unintelligible, so I'll just respond to the last paragraph.

 

WHAT THE HEEEEEEEEELLL. I said it simulates the experience of drowning. The period from when you're underwater to your death is drowning. They stop right before you die, so you've experienced everything that happens when you drown save the solitude of death.

 

And once more, I'm sure that's never happened to you.

 

 

B-b-but daddy! The people in Iraq have WoMD. Even though we haven't found anything yet' date=' they still have them! And we are obviously not going there for oil. It's not like gas prices went down at all between 2001 and 2003. The Iraq War was a genius plan by Bush, and you cannot deny that.

[/quote']

Add sarcasm tags before computerwhiz starts agreeing with you.

 

I don't use sarcasm tags in debates, as I made a stupid assumption that most people in the debates forum are smart. I am an idiot for thinking that. I mean, look at computerwhiz and Death Metal Mr. Dog. He sucks.

[OMGAKITTY]

I'm about 80% sure Wiz is trollin.

But this is still fun, so I won't say anything.

[~/Coolio Prime\~]

I'm about 80% sure Wiz is trollin.

But this is still fun' date=' so I won't say anything.

[/quote']

well maybe you should say something you jerHEY WAIT A SECOND

 

 

His entire account would have to be a joke if he was smart enough to do this, and that would be kind of sad if he had an account devoted entirely to trolling when he has 4000-ish posts.

[OMGAKITTY]

I'm about 80% sure Wiz is trollin.

But this is still fun' date=' so I won't say anything.

[/quote']

well maybe you should say something you jerHEY WAIT A SECOND

 

 

His entire account would have to be a joke if he was smart enough to do this, and that would be kind of sad if he had an account devoted entirely to trolling when he has 4000-ish posts.

 

I have to believe he's trolling. I'd lose faith in humanity if there were actually people this stupid in existence.

[Sparta™]

I'm about 80% sure Wiz is trollin.

But this is still fun' date=' so I won't say anything.

[/quote']

well maybe you should say something you jerHEY WAIT A SECOND

 

 

His entire account would have to be a joke if he was smart enough to do this, and that would be kind of sad if he had an account devoted entirely to trolling when he has 4000-ish posts.

 

I have to believe he's trolling. I'd lose faith in humanity if there were actually people this stupid in existence.

 

So I'm stupid for believing in helping the Americans? Are you that serious?

 

You guys make Pelosi look conservative.

[~/Coolio Prime\~]

NICE COUNTER ARGUMENT BRO

 

OH HEY LOOK SOME PEOPLE WEARING TURBANS, LETS GO FORCE THEM TO GO INTO PUBLIC SWIMMING POOLS SO THEY WILL SPILL ALL THE BEANS ON THE DOOMSDAY DEVICE THEYRE PLANNING AMIRITE

[Luna Lovegood]

I'm about 80% sure Wiz is trollin.

But this is still fun' date=' so I won't say anything.

[/quote']

well maybe you should say something you jerHEY WAIT A SECOND

 

 

His entire account would have to be a joke if he was smart enough to do this, and that would be kind of sad if he had an account devoted entirely to trolling when he has 4000-ish posts.

 

I have to believe he's trolling. I'd lose faith in humanity if there were actually people this stupid in existence.

 

So I'm stupid for believing in helping the Americans? Are you that serious?

 

You guys make Pelosi look conservative.

 

I'm gonna torture you until you say you love me, cause obviously you do.

[Dark]

NICE COUNTER ARGUMENT BRO

 

OH HEY LOOK SOME PEOPLE WEARING TURBANS' date=' LETS GO FORCE THEM TO GO INTO PUBLIC SWIMMING POOLS SO THEY WILL SPILL ALL THE BEANS ON THE DOOMSDAY DEVICE THEYRE PLANNING AMIRITE

[/quote']

 

Yeah, but the swimming pools need to accomodate all of them, otherwise it'd be a fire hazard.

 

I'm about 80% sure Wiz is trollin.

But this is still fun' date=' so I won't say anything.

[/quote']

well maybe you should say something you jerHEY WAIT A SECOND

 

 

His entire account would have to be a joke if he was smart enough to do this, and that would be kind of sad if he had an account devoted entirely to trolling when he has 4000-ish posts.

 

I have to believe he's trolling. I'd lose faith in humanity if there were actually people this stupid in existence.

 

So I'm stupid for believing in helping the Americans? Are you that serious?

 

You guys make Pelosi look conservative.

 

I'm gonna torture you until you say you love me, cause obviously you do.

 

Hey, you. GTFO. kthxbai

 

Wiz is trolling. I'm sure of it.

[OMGAKITTY]

I'm about 80% sure Wiz is trollin.

But this is still fun' date=' so I won't say anything.

[/quote']

well maybe you should say something you jerHEY WAIT A SECOND

 

 

His entire account would have to be a joke if he was smart enough to do this, and that would be kind of sad if he had an account devoted entirely to trolling when he has 4000-ish posts.

 

I have to believe he's trolling. I'd lose faith in humanity if there were actually people this stupid in existence.

 

So I'm stupid for believing in helping the Americans? Are you that serious?

 

You guys make Pelosi look conservative.

 

.....Wait...

So...

Its conservative to want to not help Americans?

[Dark]

OMGAKITTY, that was not nice. If you are going to say he is stupid, at least put in strike tags or say he is smart sarcastically. [/sar]