Manjoume Thunder Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Monsters: 20 1x Dark Armed Dragon2x Dark Grepher3x Blackwing - Sirocco of the Dawn1x Blackwing - Gale the Whirlwind2x Blackwing - Vayu the Emblem of Honor2x Blackwing - Blizzard the Far North3x Blackwing - Bora the Spear3x Blackwing - Shura the Blue Flame3x Blackwing - Kalut the Moon Shadow Spells: 10 1x Heavy Storm1x Brain Control3x Black Whirlwind2x Allure of Darkness1x Smashing Ground2x Book of Moon Traps: 10 3x Icarus Attack2x Royal Oppression1x Solemn Judgment1x Mirror Force2x Bottomless Trap Hole1x Call of the Haunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabber2033 Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Use Mirror Force instead of Solemn. Solemn should be a 3 or 0 card. Replace your Bottomlesses with Dark Bribe. You have plenty of monster destruction traps with 3x Icarus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted September 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Use Mirror Force instead of Solemn. Solemn should be a 3 or 0 card. Replace your Bottomlesses with Dark Bribe. You have plenty of monster destruction traps with 3x Icarus. Solemn is a 3 or 0 card when you can play 3.Dark Bribe sucks.And I am not sure for the BTHs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabber2033 Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Use Mirror Force instead of Solemn. Solemn should be a 3 or 0 card. Replace your Bottomlesses with Dark Bribe. You have plenty of monster destruction traps with 3x Icarus. Solemn is a 3 or 0 card when you can play 3.Dark Bribe sucks. How does Dark Bribe suck? It's the best Spell/Trap negation card now that Solemn is limited...And I am not sure for the BTHs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted September 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Use Mirror Force instead of Solemn. Solemn should be a 3 or 0 card. Replace your Bottomlesses with Dark Bribe. You have plenty of monster destruction traps with 3x Icarus. Solemn is a 3 or 0 card when you can play 3.Dark Bribe sucks. How does Dark Bribe suck? It's the best Spell/Trap negation card now that Solemn is limited...And I am not sure for the BTHs. It's a -1.It's only good when you have something important to protect.Also I will only use it mainly when my opponent tries to prevent a big push and then MBaaS and Solemn will do it better. I can also neg a Book for Solemn. Most of my decks end up running only 2 Books :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow™ Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 :?Anyway, it seems like the Spies would get in the way here...Also, Icarus@3 seems a bit off...+2 Fane-2 Spyshould fix that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted September 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 :?Anyway' date=' it seems like the Spies would get in the way here...Also, Icarus@3 seems a bit off...+2 Fane-2 Spyshould fix that...[/quote'] The spies were a filler, but it's nice to flip a spy and then drop blizzard :D I am not going to run 2 Fanes though.Dunno why you like him. :S And I believe that 3x Icarus is mandatory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow™ Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 :?Anyway' date=' it seems like the Spies would get in the way here...Also, Icarus@3 seems a bit off...+2 Fane-2 Spyshould fix that...[/quote'] The spies were a filler, but it's nice to flip a spy and then drop blizzard :D I am not going to run 2 Fanes though.Dunno why you like him. :S And I believe that 3x Icarus is mandatory.Fane is great when used correctly. And Icarus isn't mandatory @3..Usually 2...How about:-2 Spy+1 Blizz+1 FaneHappy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted September 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 :?Anyway' date=' it seems like the Spies would get in the way here...Also, Icarus@3 seems a bit off...+2 Fane-2 Spyshould fix that...[/quote'] The spies were a filler, but it's nice to flip a spy and then drop blizzard :D I am not going to run 2 Fanes though.Dunno why you like him. :S And I believe that 3x Icarus is mandatory.Fane is great when used correctly. And Icarus isn't mandatory @3..Usually 2...How about:-2 Spy+1 Blizz+1 FaneHappy? Sounds good, but Fane is great when used correctly.is not the explanation that I expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow™ Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 :?Anyway' date=' it seems like the Spies would get in the way here...Also, Icarus@3 seems a bit off...+2 Fane-2 Spyshould fix that...[/quote'] The spies were a filler, but it's nice to flip a spy and then drop blizzard :D I am not going to run 2 Fanes though.Dunno why you like him. :S And I believe that 3x Icarus is mandatory.Fane is great when used correctly. And Icarus isn't mandatory @3..Usually 2...How about:-2 Spy+1 Blizz+1 FaneHappy? Sounds good, but Fane is great when used correctly.is not the explanation that I expected.Well he is good. See my JAF deck for his best use.But I've won games thanks to him + Sirocco. He's useful to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0b3rt Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 My Buddy as a ShieldlolWhy are you running Smashing Ground over Lightning Vortex? Anyways, dark eruption is better then both and it's good to run at 2, so-1 Smashing Ground+1 Dark Eruption rest seems ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted September 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 My Buddy as a ShieldlolWhy are you running Smashing Ground over Lightning Vortex? Anyways' date=' dark eruption is better then both and it's good to run at 2, so-1 Smashing Ground+1 Dark Eruption rest seems ok[/quote'] 1) Dark Eruption is not that great. 2) I have a lot of removal so LV might become useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyosuke Kiryu Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Btw, Syncrow is right Cliff, Fane can be a win condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted September 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 3rd Blizzard created very bad opening hands.Fane is ... meh at best. I am going to test Grephers over the Spies and 2x Vayu instead of Mistral and Vayu, because Togores did it I am pro.(Ignoring the fact that Grepher's -1s are counter productive) Should I play a 3rd Sirocco with Greph? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 3rd Blizzard created very bad opening hands.Fane is ... meh at best. I am going to test Grephers over the Spies and 2x Vayu instead of Mistral and Vayu' date=' because [s']Togores did it[/s] I am pro.(Ignoring the fact that Grepher's -1s are counter productive) Should I play a 3rd Sirocco with Greph? Yes to the last part, besides, after Togores won SJC, I expect more BW/Vayu deck mirror matchs so it shouldn't be bad anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted September 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Damn those Grephers are nice techs. I should've thought of that before :SWhat to neg for the 3rd Sirocco? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Frostpaw Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 I've never built BW with Vayu, but what about Elphin? It can search any BW in the deck other than another Elphin when you normal it while you control a whirlwind. And if you don't want to summon it, you can always discard Elphin to SS grepher, or you could discard elphin for grepher's effect, and send Vayu from the deck to the grave and remove them for Armor Master. Maybe: -1 bora+1 Elphin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted September 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 I've never built BW with Vayu' date=' but what about Elphin? It can search any BW in the deck other than another Elphin when you normal it while you control a whirlwind. And if you don't want to summon it, you can always discard Elphin to SS grepher, or you could discard elphin for grepher's effect, and send Vayu from the deck to the grave and remove them for Armor Master. Maybe: -1 bora+1 Elphin[/quote'] Maybe-1 Bora+1 Sirocco I wanted space for another 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Solemn is the only thing worth changing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted September 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Solemn is the only thing worth changing. So -1 Bora/Solemn+1 Sirocco Opinions? I can also neg both for Sirocco and a PSZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted September 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 Solemn is the only thing worth changing. So -1 Bora/Solemn+1 Sirocco Opinions? I can also neg both for Sirocco and a PSZ. that sounds good XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted October 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 I removed 1 Bora to free some space for Sirocco. I am also testing with Oppressions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted October 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 This deck got an extra deck?If so, +1 Gale.Also, you want 3 Icarus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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