This is very good or bad, depending on your standpoint.

[Dark]

It's easier to say in each post that "this' date=' this and this will happen if this happened" instead of saying "if this happened, it's possible that this could happen, but maybe not, and this might happen, too".

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So you're forceful because it's easier?... You make me laugh.

 

We are obviously not saying that if Japan didn't attack America, there is a 100% chance that Hitler would have ruled the world forever and ever.

 

We are saying that if Japan didn't attack America, I believe there is a possibility Hitler could have gone further.

[Huntar!]

I love how people discuss history like a novel that can manipulate itself with ease.

 

Sure' date=' we know that Hitler attacking Russia was sheer stupidity; but how can you be sure that his "successful" hypothetical thing would not have wound up in some downfall with him being transported with his large ego and dying? How can you be sure he wouldn't have lost in some other fashion? And how can you be sure that Nagasaki and Hiroshima would be the only reason that Hitler could have lost?

[/quote']

 

History can be interpreted whichever way you want it to. Besides, History is always written by the winners. History could've been entirely different than what we know of it today.

 

Adolf Hitler's idol was Napoleon Bonaparte. But he didn't learn from Napoleon that it is impossible to war with both England and Russia at the same time. You can't win.

 

And of course Hitler couldn't have lost without America in the war. For two reasons.

1 - Americans are awesome and we can do anything.

2 - Hitler was a God in human form.

 

Josh, your turn.

[Metal Lord]

Yeah' date=' we get it Icyblue, changing one part of history leads to an infinite other possibilites that could have occured.

 

But we are just using [b']imagination[/b].

 

Lol, that's awesome :lol:

[Guest JoshIcy]

I love how people discuss history like a novel that can manipulate itself with ease.

 

Sure' date=' we know that Hitler attacking Russia was sheer stupidity; but how can you be sure that his "successful" hypothetical thing would not have wound up in some downfall with him being transported with his large ego and dying? How can you be sure he wouldn't have lost in some other fashion? And how can you be sure that Nagasaki and Hiroshima would be the only reason that Hitler could have lost?

[/quote']

 

History can be interpreted whichever way you want it to. Besides, History is always written by the winners. History could've been entirely different than what we know of it today.

 

Adolf Hitler's idol was Napoleon Bonaparte. But he didn't learn from Napoleon that it is impossible to war with both England and Russia at the same time. You can't win.

 

And of course Hitler couldn't have lost without America in the war. For two reasons.

1 - Americans are awesome and we can do anything.

2 - Hitler was a God in human form.

 

Josh, your turn.

 

Hitler was an ego maniacal twat, who probably never got his way in school.

 

I've seen a lot of people with his Psychological Profile; and dealt with them in my sleep. The only difference between him, and that annoying brat next door who always whines to get what he wants is that he was put into a position of extreme power.

[Kitty]

I love how people discuss history like a novel that can manipulate itself with ease.

 

Sure' date=' we know that Hitler attacking Russia was sheer stupidity; but how can you be sure that his "successful" hypothetical thing would not have wound up in some downfall with him being transported with his large ego and dying? How can you be sure he wouldn't have lost in some other fashion? And how can you be sure that Nagasaki and Hiroshima would be the only reason that Hitler could have lost?

 

He was already spiraling into deep maniacal depression. One way or another, it was over for your wannabe [i']hero[/i]. Since the very reason why Einstein had told Roosevelt about the Nuke was because of Hitler...

 

Geez. Are you totally blind of inter-human relations, looking only at the material aspects?

 

i lol'd seriously...

Germany vs Russia, Russia woulda won.. eventually

 

but the whole Pearl Harbor is confusing...... =/

Why would Japan want to change the war? I know Japan was trying to prevent the US from interfering in the war Japan was planning to wage in Southeast Asia against Britain, the Netherlands, and the United States. But come on it's like the US and Britain out sizes Sotuheast Asia by a long shot and Japan isn't that big although they have great technology.

 

And I agree with Icy's statement on how Hitler was slowly falling out of power. He wouldn't have won even if the US never interfered. But it was nice to insure that Germany never won and that that madman was stopped...

[Felix Culpa]

No. America would've blown Berlin to bits instead of Hiroshima.

[Huntar!]

Hitler was an ego maniacal twat' date=' who probably never got his way in school.

 

I've seen a lot of people with his Psychological Profile; and dealt with them in my sleep. The only difference between him, and that annoying brat next door who always whines to get what he wants is that he was put into a position of extreme power.

[/quote']

 

...Josh, you're Hitler on an internet forum.

[Kitty]

Hitler was an ego maniacal twat' date=' who probably never got his way in school.

 

I've seen a lot of people with his Psychological Profile; and dealt with them in my sleep. The only difference between him, and that annoying brat next door who always whines to get what he wants is that he was put into a position of extreme power.

[/quote']

 

...Josh, you're Hitler on an internet forum.

 

If Joshy is Hitler then i get to Saddam Hussein only i get to be a girl and better looking... =D and Hunter can be Fidal Castro

[Guest JoshIcy]

Hitler was an ego maniacal twat' date=' who probably never got his way in school.

 

I've seen a lot of people with his Psychological Profile; and dealt with them in my sleep. The only difference between him, and that annoying brat next door who always whines to get what he wants is that he was put into a position of extreme power.

[/quote']

 

...Josh, you're Hitler on an internet forum.

 

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Dude... Uncalled for, and a low blow.[/align]

[Huntar!]

Hunter can be Fidal Castro

 

No thanks. >.<

 

Hitler was an ego maniacal twat' date=' who probably never got his way in school.

 

I've seen a lot of people with his Psychological Profile; and dealt with them in my sleep. The only difference between him, and that annoying brat next door who always whines to get what he wants is that he was put into a position of extreme power.

[/quote']

 

...Josh, you're Hitler on an internet forum.

 

[align=center]

Dude... Uncalled for, and a low blow.[/align]

 

The way you described Hitler, I can describe you. And me. Lol. Ah, what a pair we are?

[Kitty]

Hunter can be Fidal Castro

 

No thanks. >.<

 

Hitler was an ego maniacal twat' date=' who probably never got his way in school.

 

I've seen a lot of people with his Psychological Profile; and dealt with them in my sleep. The only difference between him, and that annoying brat next door who always whines to get what he wants is that he was put into a position of extreme power.

[/quote']

 

...Josh, you're Hitler on an internet forum.

 

[align=center]

Dude... Uncalled for, and a low blow.[/align]

 

The way you described Hitler, I can describe you. And me. Lol. Ah, what a pair we are?

 

a fine pair you two are like Tom and Jerry and funny to watch

[Guest JoshIcy]

Hunter can be Fidal Castro

 

No thanks. >.<

 

Hitler was an ego maniacal twat' date=' who probably never got his way in school.

 

I've seen a lot of people with his Psychological Profile; and dealt with them in my sleep. The only difference between him, and that annoying brat next door who always whines to get what he wants is that he was put into a position of extreme power.

[/quote']

 

...Josh, you're Hitler on an internet forum.

 

[align=center]

Dude... Uncalled for, and a low blow.[/align]

 

The way you described Hitler, I can describe you. And me. Lol. Ah, what a pair we are?

 

I hate it that you're like my brother >_>"... You balance me out. (It's a good thing).

[HORUS]

I think if Hitler hadn't invaded Russia, he would've done just fine, but I can't apportion all the blame on him. The Japs shouldn't have involved America so early.

 

Der Fuehrer would've been better off without the Pearl Harbour attack.

[Zeroshot]

 

Or if Japan didn't attack us at all' date=' we wouldn't have gotten involved in the war until Germany took over most of Eurasia and Africa.

[/quote']

 

I dun think so.

Germany would've attack America before Great Britain of Europe or China of asia.

Hitler was smarter than that.

[Huntar!]

I hate it that you're like my brother >_>"... You balance me out. (It's a good thing).

 

Ok' date=' I'll take that as a compliment then. :3

 

I dun think so.

Germany would've attack America before Great Britain of Europe or China of asia.

Hitler was smarter than that.

 

+1 Zeroshot

[OMGAKITTY]

 

Or if Japan didn't attack us at all' date=' we wouldn't have gotten involved in the war until Germany took over most of Eurasia and Africa.

[/quote']

 

I dun think so.

Germany would've attack America before Great Britain of Europe or China of asia.

Hitler was smarter than that.

 

wat?

He was already attacking Great Britain?

 

Weren't the Nazi's also developing nuclear weaponry?

 

I don't know if he would have won outright, but it would have been a much harder fight if the US hadn't been drawn in when they were.

[Zeroshot]

 

Or if Japan didn't attack us at all' date=' we wouldn't have gotten involved in the war until Germany took over most of Eurasia and Africa.

[/quote']

 

I dun think so.

Germany would've attack America before Great Britain of Europe or China of asia.

Hitler was smarter than that.

 

wat?

He was already attacking Great Britain?

 

Weren't the Nazi's also developing nuclear weaponry?

 

He didn't ATTACK Great Britain, but they were fighting.

And now, Hitler wasn't interested in Nukes and the developers escaped to America.

 

On that note, discuss what the world would be like if Hitler would have developed nuclear weapons.

[OMGAKITTY]

 

Or if Japan didn't attack us at all' date=' we wouldn't have gotten involved in the war until Germany took over most of Eurasia and Africa.

[/quote']

 

I dun think so.

Germany would've attack America before Great Britain of Europe or China of asia.

Hitler was smarter than that.

 

wat?

He was already attacking Great Britain?

 

Weren't the Nazi's also developing nuclear weaponry?

 

He didn't ATTACK Great Britain, but they were fighting.

And now, Hitler wasn't interested in Nukes and the developers escaped to America.

 

On that note, discuss what the world would be like if Hitler would have developed nuclear weapons.

 

The World: gg

Hitler: gg

US: gg

[Guest JoshIcy]

 

Or if Japan didn't attack us at all' date=' we wouldn't have gotten involved in the war until Germany took over most of Eurasia and Africa.

[/quote']

 

I dun think so.

Germany would've attack America before Great Britain of Europe or China of asia.

Hitler was smarter than that.

 

wat?

He was already attacking Great Britain?

 

Weren't the Nazi's also developing nuclear weaponry?

 

He didn't ATTACK Great Britain, but they were fighting.

And now, Hitler wasn't interested in Nukes and the developers escaped to America.

 

On that note, discuss what the world would be like if Hitler would have developed nuclear weapons.

 

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[Dark]

I think if Hitler hadn't invaded Russia' date=' he would've done just fine, but I can't apportion all the blame on him. The Japs shouldn't have involved America so early.

 

Der Fuehrer would've been better off without the Pearl Harbour attack.

[/quote']

 

Because if America was not involved so early, Hitler would have had at least some more time to build up a stronger army. Oh, and nuclalear (misspelled on purpose) weapons.

 

 

Or if Japan didn't attack us at all' date=' we wouldn't have gotten involved in the war until Germany took over most of Eurasia and Africa.

[/quote']

 

I dun think so.

Germany would've attack America before Great Britain of Europe or China of asia.

Hitler was smarter than that.

 

Why would Hitler attack America? America hadn't lost a war before (in that time).

[Zeroshot]

I think if Hitler hadn't invaded Russia' date=' he would've done just fine, but I can't apportion all the blame on him. The Japs shouldn't have involved America so early.

 

Der Fuehrer would've been better off without the Pearl Harbour attack.

[/quote']

 

Because if America was not involved so early, Hitler would have had at least some more time to build up a stronger army. Oh, and nuclalear (misspelled on purpose) weapons.

 

 

Or if Japan didn't attack us at all' date=' we wouldn't have gotten involved in the war until Germany took over most of Eurasia and Africa.

[/quote']

 

I dun think so.

Germany would've attack America before Great Britain of Europe or China of asia.

Hitler was smarter than that.

 

Why would Hitler attack America? America hadn't lost a war before (in that time).

 

American Revolution: Vs. Britain

Civil War: Vs. USA

WWI: Had more allies/Germany had a terrible economy

Mexico (Several): They're Mexican

France: (I believe when we were still part of Great Britain when we fought the French

 

So, based on the random wars that I managed to remember, We either fought pusseys (Near the end, Britain was pussey), or had big bad allies.

 

If America was attacked, Russia and France wouldn't send as much support as America did them becase they were less advanced as Germany in terms of Navigation.

 

It's unable to see the outcome because of our lack of Time Machine, but if Germany would have studied nukes, and taken over America before Europe, we'd all be worshiping Hitler right now.