A little disucussion

[Bloodrun]

Defined "trolling" a little bit more.

 

You might wanna add that it can be subject to change' date=' based on the moderator with the situation. So there aren't any loopholes.

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It's obvious why I've started this, so let's just continue to the "story/discussion".

 

 

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*Note: This is serious and professional, I promise.

 

So does this mean that lets say someone was to say:

 

"I hate furry's, they sicken me."

 

That they can be banned?

 

And does it mean that if someone were to say, (even in a serious and professional tone):

 

"Death happens everyday, get use to it. Sure you can morn, but if it requires more then the amount of time it takes you to realize that just sitting there and feeling sorry for yourself isn't going to fix anything. Then you need to re-evaluate why your "mourning"."

 

That their posts can be deleted, and or threatened to be banned?

 

 

 

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Basically what I'm getting at is that there seems to be a whole lot of "let's cover our behinds" and no "let's actually do things that will actually be of use" going around.

 

 

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[1]Visible Action that shows discussion will be put on course.

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[3]Visible Action that shows course of feeling will be ignored, but given Promise that further discussion of topic that offends feelings will not be continued towards said person.

 

If one or all of these Requirements are not met, further actions will be called upon, Request of Further Action:

 

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End there state of official Requests.

[Brushfire]

The fact that you're critising anyone's Modding skills is actually laughable, but the fact remains that you're correct. However, let it be known that Icy doesn't even Mod with an ounce of logic- he lets his emotions control everything he does as a Mod and nowadays he is definitely not a Member before a Moderator. Will I be banned for saying this, Icy, as Bloodrun was warned for saying he disliked furries? Would you give out a punishment because someone has an opinion? It's rather pathetic, in my opinion, and hopefully others will see why.

[Bloodrun]

The fact that you're critising anyone's Modding skills is actually laughable' date=' but the fact remains that you're correct. However, let it be known that Icy doesn't even Mod with an ounce of logic- he lets his emotions control everything he does as a Mod and nowadays he is definitely not a Member before a Moderator. Will I be banned for saying this, Icy, as Bloodrun was warned for saying he disliked furries? Would you give out a punishment because someone has an opinion? It's rather pathetic, in my opinion, and hopefully others will see why.

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Not Modding skills, but the fact that they are being let them slip by with the decisions.

 

For the record, I did not call out any specific person. ;) I myself was not warned for anything related to furries. I couldn't have been for I was serving a previous set of Warnings. But people were banned and warned for said situation.

 

Anything beyond isn't needed, but I will say your response was actually to the point. Thank You.

[Mehmani]

Free Speech is not allowed on this Forum.

 

Why?

Because the Mods are afraid people will expose them and uprise against them. They are incompetent and they know it. I respect them all as Members, but not as Moderators. The only good MODERATORS are J-Max, Opalmoon, BR, FP and YCMaker.

 

All the rest are not good MODERATORS, but good MEMBERS.

[OMGAKITTY]

I lol'd. Icy gave me a 50% warn once for saying "furries terrify me".

I didn't even tell him to yiff in hell. :/

 

Rules are a funking joke. Hunter actually updated the rules to justify warning me the other day. And he still fails, because I was still within the rules.

[Brushfire]

The only good MODERATORS are Umbra' date=' Browarod, Raven, BR, [s']FP and YCMaker[/s].

 

All the rest are not good MODERATORS, but good MEMBERS.

 

Fixed. Btw, FP and YCMaker are Admins, not Mods.

 

I lol'd. Icy gave me a 50% warn once for saying "furries terrify me".

I didn't even tell him to yiff in hell. :/

 

Rules are a f***ing joke. Hunter actually updated the rules to justify warning me the other day. And he still fails' date=' because I was still within the rules.

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Icy is like that though, and it's really pathetic. How he's a Super Mod in the first place amazes me, he's so lazy that he never does anything. Browa will probably revoke that warning completely if you mention it to him by the way.

 

Also, that made me lol. I respect Hunter and I do feel that he's an alright Mod, but that's just plain stupid.

[Skuldur]

Like the reason Hunter banned Dark, he didn't say it was because of trolling.

 

No, it was because

 

He was banned for being himself. Enough of Dark adds up to being too much Dark.

 

This is an actual quote from Prince Hunter. >.>

[Dad]

Free Speech is not allowed on this Forum.

 

Why?

Because the Mods are afraid people will expose them and uprise against them. They are incompetent and they know it. I respect them all as Members' date=' but not as Moderators. The only good MODERATORS are J-Max, Opalmoon, BR, FP and YCMaker.

 

All the rest are not good MODERATORS, but good MEMBERS.

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J-Max doesn't deserve to be a mod, but I'll leave that for another PM.

 

 

The fact that you're critising anyone's Modding skills is actually laughable' date=' but the fact remains that you're correct. However, let it be known that Icy doesn't even Mod with an ounce of logic- he lets his emotions control everything he does as a Mod and nowadays he is definitely not a Member before a Moderator. Will I be banned for saying this, Icy, as Bloodrun was warned for saying he disliked furries? Would you give out a punishment because someone has an opinion? It's rather pathetic, in my opinion, and hopefully others will see why.

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I'm sure he means well when he's defending himself and applying punishments based on his own beliefs. . . ow8

[Mehmani]

Free Speech is not allowed on this Forum.

 

Why?

Because the Mods are afraid people will expose them and uprise against them. They are incompetent and they know it. I respect them all as Members' date=' but not as Moderators. The only good MODERATORS are J-Max, Opalmoon, BR, FP and YCMaker.

 

All the rest are not good MODERATORS, but good MEMBERS.

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J-Max doesn't deserve to be a mod, but I'll leave that for another PM.

 

 

The fact that you're critising anyone's Modding skills is actually laughable' date=' but the fact remains that you're correct. However, let it be known that Icy doesn't even Mod with an ounce of logic- he lets his emotions control everything he does as a Mod and nowadays he is definitely not a Member before a Moderator. Will I be banned for saying this, Icy, as Bloodrun was warned for saying he disliked furries? Would you give out a punishment because someone has an opinion? It's rather pathetic, in my opinion, and hopefully others will see why.

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I'm sure he means well when he's defending himself and applying punishments based on his own beliefs. . . ow8

 

Kinda.....he was inactive for ages. But since he's come back....

[Bloodrun]

[spoiler=Discussion of Said Discussion]

[12:00] [email protected]: Anyway, any more questions about the thread? I have problem with answering them.

[12:00] ~Darth Browarod the Glyphmaster~: I'm just concerned as to why you brought the thing up again

[12:00] [email protected]: Up again? I don't believe I have ever brought said thing up again.

[12:01] ~Darth Browarod the Glyphmaster~: um, didn't you and Icy have a big discussion about it right after it happened?

[12:03] [email protected]: I don't believe so, I was banned during it, if I am not mistaken, which I don't believe I am. But if you can prove me wrong, please do.

[12:03] ~Darth Browarod the Glyphmaster~: ok, ignoring that, why did you have to make a public thread about it rather than speaking with Icy personally about it?

[12:03] ~Darth Browarod the Glyphmaster~: you of all people should know the correct procedure for these kinds of things

[12:06] [email protected]: Who said anything about it being about Icy? Those were just examples, I didn't even mention his name in the entire thread. And besides, you know as well as I, that Icy is ignoring anything dealing with myself.

[12:07] ~Darth Browarod the Glyphmaster~: the quotes you posted I know are from Icy

[12:07] ~Darth Browarod the Glyphmaster~: also, I'm not ignoring you

[12:07] ~Darth Browarod the Glyphmaster~: if you have a complaint, you know I'm always here

[12:07] [email protected]: I never said you were ignoring you, I said icy.

[12:08] [email protected]: Again, I never mentioned his name, the thread was not targeted towards a specific person, hence the person(s) of staff.

[12:08] ~Darth Browarod the Glyphmaster~: even so

[12:08] ~Darth Browarod the Glyphmaster~: complaints go to the moderation staff, not to public threads

[12:09] [email protected]: But it isn't a complaint, if it were a complaint, i wouldn't have left room for an explanation from the opposing party

[12:13] [email protected]: Any response? 0.o

[12:13] ~Darth Browarod the Glyphmaster~: sorry, at work

[12:13] ~Darth Browarod the Glyphmaster~: I still don't see any reason to discuss somethign like this

[12:14] ~Darth Browarod the Glyphmaster~: something*

[12:14] ~Darth Browarod the Glyphmaster~: the moderation team and it's policies are not open for debate, so there doesn't seem any point to regular members discussing their opinions on it

[12:14] [email protected]: Lol, my point is being proven.

[12:14] [email protected]: "the moderation team and it's policies are not open for debate"

[12:14] [email protected]: "lets cover our asses"

[12:15] ~Darth Browarod the Glyphmaster~: >_>

[12:15] [email protected]: You know im right.

[12:15] ~Darth Browarod the Glyphmaster~: I never said the policies can't be overturned

[12:15] ~Darth Browarod the Glyphmaster~: there's a difference between a correctly filed complaint and a debate thread where people can whine about their angst

[12:16] ~Darth Browarod the Glyphmaster~: I've bene wrong in my decisions numerous times

[12:16] ~Darth Browarod the Glyphmaster~: but it wasn't due to threads like yours that the truth was given in the end

[12:16] [email protected]: Again, it isn't a complaint.

[12:16] [email protected]: *typing next statement please hold*

[12:18] [email protected]: If and I quote "regular members such as myself" can't debate the policies. Then how can they be over turned with "properly filing a complaint" if apparently are opinions don't matter.

[12:18] ~Darth Browarod the Glyphmaster~: opinions don't matter

[12:18] ~Darth Browarod the Glyphmaster~: facts do

[12:19] ~Darth Browarod the Glyphmaster~: "OMG, I'm so mad that you warned me for spamming! remove it NAO!" is not a correct complaint

[12:20] ~Darth Browarod the Glyphmaster~: "Hello, I'd like to challenge the warning I received. I was not spamming because if you look 7 posts up, the thread creator asked a specific question to which I was directing my response." is a correct complaint

[12:20] ~Darth Browarod the Glyphmaster~: obviously nobody likes getting warned

[12:20] [email protected]: Now read my posts and the first post, they are obviously written correctly.

[12:21] [email protected]: whether or not the posts of whoever posts in it are, the point still stands, that the thread is there to discuss the fact that the Moderation team keeps covering their asses so that we can't say anything, do anything, breathe on anything that would suggest their wrong.

[12:21] [email protected]: Now, if the moderator(s) would like to discuss, then so be it.

[12:22] [email protected]: Don't complain about how it's written, deal with the situation.

[12:22] ~Darth Browarod the Glyphmaster~: who's complaining?

[12:22] ~Darth Browarod the Glyphmaster~: I'm simply informing you that the context of your inquiry is not appropriate and as such will most likely not yield the results you are desiring

[12:23] [email protected]: I desire nothing. Because it is currently being fulfilled.

[12:23] [email protected]: *typing reply please hold*

[12:25] [email protected]: It is not an inquiry, call it an open handed discussion. As the fact still remains, that it is indeed a discussion. As what we are doing now is discussing, am I not correct?

[12:26] ~Darth Browarod the Glyphmaster~: do you honestly need the affirmation of the masses on YCM for you to be confident that your point is correct?

[12:26] ~Darth Browarod the Glyphmaster~: because I see no point to your thread other than you want attention and people to agree with you

[12:30] [email protected]: See there, that's an opinion, and well based on a quote from earlier, opinions don't matter, but facts do. I see no fact in your statement. My thread could have been created just because I want to type, but you can't prove it, so it's there to serve for discussion. I am not for the agreeing of the people of YCM, I am merely asking that you openly admit that you are setting ground rules so that you or anyone under the staff list, cannot be openly questioned on their actions, and that their actions cannot be handled publicly. And that moderators are being allowed to rule by their emotions, and not by the context of the rules.

 

 

 

Person(s) of staff, Require once, Recieved. [3]

Author of thread, Require once, Recieved. [3]

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[Guest JoshIcy]

Woohoo for a personal attack against me.

So instead of making an all out flame thing, (despite it looking like a discussion) take it to PM and MSN/AIM.