Communism and Philosophy

[Dark Mousy]

"At the end of history, there will be communism." - Marx.

 

Agree or disagree?

 

Also:

 

"Communism is just like a Ponzi scheme, everyone is equal in their own misery." - Perry

[Juuzou]

communism in theory is win, but in practice is fail.

 

as for the quotes, i don't agree

[Guest JoshIcy]

Ideal Communism, would be the better term.

Also, the second is just garbage. Seeing as that defines life as it is now, and always has been.

[Dark Mousy]

If there could exist ideal communism, every political system would work equally well. Including Fascism.

 

Marx philosophy does have a lot of holes.

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

Communism as an idea has no reason to die out until the end of history.

 

Perry just didn't know what he was talking about imo. Equality doesn't necessarily mean everyone has to be miserable.

[OMGAKITTY]

As long as human nature exists, there cannot be communism.

[Dark Mousy]

I liked Marx a lot better than Stalin / Mao. Lenin is interesting.

 

Marxist theories are much more advanced than the brutal killing of people under Stalin / Mao. But, a lot of advances in the theory of economics was attributed to him. Don't treat marxism lightly.

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

Let's not forget that just because perfect communism can't exist doesn't mean we can't shoot for it. The more equality, the better in my opinion. =)

 

Oh, and we have a Marxist-Leninist Communist Party here in Canada, they're not a major party and only exist in specific locations though. We also have a Marijuana Party of Canada.

[Dark Mousy]

I know that. I live in Ottawa.

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

We also have a Green Party, a Liberal Party, a New Democratic Party, a Conservative Party, and a Rhinoceros Party. 8)

 

We also have mad parties.

[Dark Mousy]

I LIVE IN OTTAWA!!! I know the Libs, NDPs, PCs and what?!? A rhinoceros party?

 

neways, get back on topic.

[Guest PikaPerson01]

Hey, this topic doesn't get made twice every single week.

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

I'm not joking.

 

In the 1988 election' date=' the Rhinoceros Party ran a candidate named John Turner in the same riding as Liberal leader John Turner, and received 760 votes.[9'] Penny Hoar, a safe sex activist, distributed condoms in Toronto while running under the slogan "Politicians screw you — protect yourself."[10]

 

Other platform promises of the Rhinoceros Party included:

 

* Repealing the law of gravity[11][12]

* Providing higher education by building taller schools[9]

* Instituting English, French and illiteracy as Canada's three official languages[9]

* Tearing down the Rocky Mountains so that Albertans could see the Pacific sunset[12]

* Making Montreal the Venice of North America by damming the St. Lawrence River[13]

* Abolishing the environment because it's too hard to keep clean and it takes up so much space[9]

* Annexing the United States, which would take its place as the third territory in Canada's backyard (after the Yukon and the Northwest Territories -- Nunavut did not yet exist), in order to eliminate foreign control of Canada's natural resources[14]

* Ending crime by abolishing all laws[15]

* To provide more parking in the Maritimes and to create the world's largest parking lot respectively, paving the Bay of Fundy and the province of Manitoba [9][12]

* Turning Montreal's Saint Catherine Street into the world's longest bowling alley[9]

* Amending Canada's Freedom of Information Act. "Nothing is free anymore; Canadians should have to pay for their information." [16]

* Making the Canadian climate more temperate by tapping into the natural resource of hot air in Ottawa. [17]

* Storing nuclear waste in the Senate. "After all, we've been storing political waste there for years." [18]

* Adopting the British system of driving on the left; this was to be gradually phased in over five years with large trucks and tractors first, then buses, eventually including small cars and bicycles last

* Selling the Canadian Senate at an antique auction in California[12][14]

* Putting the national debt on Visa[19]

* Declaring war on Belgium because a Belgian cartoon character, Tintin, killed a rhinoceros in one of the cartoons[20]

* Offering to call off the proposed Belgium-Canada war if Belgium delivered a case of mussels and a case of Belgian beer to Rhinoceros "Hindquarters" in Montreal (the Belgian Embassy in Ottawa did, in fact, do this)[20]

* Painting Canada's coastal sea limits in watercolour so that Canadian fish would know where they were at all times[13]

* Banning guns and butter, since both kill[13]

* Banning lousy Canadian winters[9]

* Renaming the country Nantucket[9]

* Building a bridge spanning the country, from Vancouver Island to Newfoundland.[21]

* Making the Trans-Canada Highway one way only.[22]

* Changing Canada's currency to bubble gum, so it could be inflated or deflated at will.[23]

* Donate a free rhinoceros to every aspiring artist in Canada[14]

* Counting the Thousand Islands to see if the Americans have stolen any[24]

 

The Rhino Party also declared that, should they somehow actually win an election, they would immediately dissolve and force a second election. "We Rhinos think that elections are so much fun, we want to hold them all the time." [25]

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhinoceros_Party_of_Canada

[Altαir]

Marx was a genious. I loved his ideas.

[JG.]

I'm not joking.

 

In the 1988 election' date=' the Rhinoceros Party ran a candidate named John Turner in the same riding as Liberal leader John Turner, and received 760 votes.[9'] Penny Hoar, a safe sex activist, distributed condoms in Toronto while running under the slogan "Politicians screw you — protect yourself."[10]

 

Other platform promises of the Rhinoceros Party included:

 

* Repealing the law of gravity[11][12]

* Providing higher education by building taller schools[9]

* Instituting English, French and illiteracy as Canada's three official languages[9]

* Tearing down the Rocky Mountains so that Albertans could see the Pacific sunset[12]

* Making Montreal the Venice of North America by damming the St. Lawrence River[13]

* Abolishing the environment because it's too hard to keep clean and it takes up so much space[9]

* Annexing the United States, which would take its place as the third territory in Canada's backyard (after the Yukon and the Northwest Territories -- Nunavut did not yet exist), in order to eliminate foreign control of Canada's natural resources[14]

* Ending crime by abolishing all laws[15]

* To provide more parking in the Maritimes and to create the world's largest parking lot respectively, paving the Bay of Fundy and the province of Manitoba [9][12]

* Turning Montreal's Saint Catherine Street into the world's longest bowling alley[9]

* Amending Canada's Freedom of Information Act. "Nothing is free anymore; Canadians should have to pay for their information." [16]

* Making the Canadian climate more temperate by tapping into the natural resource of hot air in Ottawa. [17]

* Storing nuclear waste in the Senate. "After all, we've been storing political waste there for years." [18]

* Adopting the British system of driving on the left; this was to be gradually phased in over five years with large trucks and tractors first, then buses, eventually including small cars and bicycles last

* Selling the Canadian Senate at an antique auction in California[12][14]

* Putting the national debt on Visa[19]

* Declaring war on Belgium because a Belgian cartoon character, Tintin, killed a rhinoceros in one of the cartoons[20]

* Offering to call off the proposed Belgium-Canada war if Belgium delivered a case of mussels and a case of Belgian beer to Rhinoceros "Hindquarters" in Montreal (the Belgian Embassy in Ottawa did, in fact, do this)[20]

* Painting Canada's coastal sea limits in watercolour so that Canadian fish would know where they were at all times[13]

* Banning guns and butter, since both kill[13]

* Banning lousy Canadian winters[9]

* Renaming the country Nantucket[9]

* Building a bridge spanning the country, from Vancouver Island to Newfoundland.[21]

* Making the Trans-Canada Highway one way only.[22]

* Changing Canada's currency to bubble gum, so it could be inflated or deflated at will.[23]

* Donate a free rhinoceros to every aspiring artist in Canada[14]

* Counting the Thousand Islands to see if the Americans have stolen any[24]

 

The Rhino Party also declared that, should they somehow actually win an election, they would immediately dissolve and force a second election. "We Rhinos think that elections are so much fun, we want to hold them all the time." [25]

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhinoceros_Party_of_Canada

 

Oh. My. God.

[Cyber Altair]

Why didn't they win?

[Pikachu]

Communism is a pathetic idea. Luckily for us, Deng Xiao Ping introduced international trade to China, instead of the usual closed trade most communist countries have (eg. North Korea).

 

Why do you think Communism is good? I see no reason into that.

[Dark Mousy]

Deng Xiaoping is considered a defeat for communism.

 

China's economy is a miracle... I mean it.

[OMGAKITTY]

I'm not joking.

 

In the 1988 election' date=' the Rhinoceros Party ran a candidate named John Turner in the same riding as Liberal leader John Turner, and received 760 votes.[9'] Penny Hoar, a safe sex activist, distributed condoms in Toronto while running under the slogan "Politicians screw you — protect yourself."[10]

 

Other platform promises of the Rhinoceros Party included:

 

* Repealing the law of gravity[11][12]

* Providing higher education by building taller schools[9]

* Instituting English, French and illiteracy as Canada's three official languages[9]

* Tearing down the Rocky Mountains so that Albertans could see the Pacific sunset[12]

* Making Montreal the Venice of North America by damming the St. Lawrence River[13]

* Abolishing the environment because it's too hard to keep clean and it takes up so much space[9]

* Annexing the United States, which would take its place as the third territory in Canada's backyard (after the Yukon and the Northwest Territories -- Nunavut did not yet exist), in order to eliminate foreign control of Canada's natural resources[14]

* Ending crime by abolishing all laws[15]

* To provide more parking in the Maritimes and to create the world's largest parking lot respectively, paving the Bay of Fundy and the province of Manitoba [9][12]

* Turning Montreal's Saint Catherine Street into the world's longest bowling alley[9]

* Amending Canada's Freedom of Information Act. "Nothing is free anymore; Canadians should have to pay for their information." [16]

* Making the Canadian climate more temperate by tapping into the natural resource of hot air in Ottawa. [17]

* Storing nuclear waste in the Senate. "After all, we've been storing political waste there for years." [18]

* Adopting the British system of driving on the left; this was to be gradually phased in over five years with large trucks and tractors first, then buses, eventually including small cars and bicycles last

* Selling the Canadian Senate at an antique auction in California[12][14]

* Putting the national debt on Visa[19]

* Declaring war on Belgium because a Belgian cartoon character, Tintin, killed a rhinoceros in one of the cartoons[20]

* Offering to call off the proposed Belgium-Canada war if Belgium delivered a case of mussels and a case of Belgian beer to Rhinoceros "Hindquarters" in Montreal (the Belgian Embassy in Ottawa did, in fact, do this)[20]

* Painting Canada's coastal sea limits in watercolour so that Canadian fish would know where they were at all times[13]

* Banning guns and butter, since both kill[13]

* Banning lousy Canadian winters[9]

* Renaming the country Nantucket[9]

* Building a bridge spanning the country, from Vancouver Island to Newfoundland.[21]

* Making the Trans-Canada Highway one way only.[22]

* Changing Canada's currency to bubble gum, so it could be inflated or deflated at will.[23]

* Donate a free rhinoceros to every aspiring artist in Canada[14]

* Counting the Thousand Islands to see if the Americans have stolen any[24]

 

The Rhino Party also declared that, should they somehow actually win an election, they would immediately dissolve and force a second election. "We Rhinos think that elections are so much fun, we want to hold them all the time." [25]

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhinoceros_Party_of_Canada

 

Oh. My. God.

 

I want this party to come to America.

[-Griffin]

I would vote Rhino.

 

On topic:

Theory = epic

Practice = fail, so far

 

/topic

[Father Wolf]

 

The very first Communists were early Slavic tribes who owned so little they had to share everything. They were renowned warriors, whose battle tactics consisted of getting as drunk as mortally possible, then drink twice as much more and charge at the enemy wielding a hammer in one hand and a sickle in the other. Even in these early times they were called the Red Army for their red faces (esp. noses). A Communist Warrior was terrible to behold in battle, bashing, slicing, and breathing alcoholic fumes at his enemies. Mortally wounded, he would merely fall asleep at the field of battle, only to wake up the next morning with regenerated limbs, healed wounds and a severe headache.

 

Picture is of Carl Marx.

[BehindTheMask]

 

The very first Communists were early Slavic tribes who owned so little they had to share everything. They were renowned warriors' date=' whose battle tactics consisted of getting as drunk as mortally possible, then drink twice as much more and charge at the enemy wielding a hammer in one hand and a sickle in the other. Even in these early times they were called the Red Army for their red faces (esp. noses). A Communist Warrior was terrible to behold in battle, bashing, slicing, and breathing alcoholic fumes at his enemies. Mortally wounded, he would merely fall asleep at the field of battle, only to wake up the next morning with regenerated limbs, healed wounds and a severe headache.

 

Picture is of [b']Che Guevara[/b]

 

Cool copypasta bro.

 

Anyway,

 

Communism can't be successful on a sociopolitical scale if Capitalism exists. However, this doesn't mean that Communism is worse. Communism at its core is the best sociopolitical idea.

[Pikachu]

Deng Xiaoping is considered a defeat for communism.

 

Isn't that the GOOD part?

 

China's economy is a miracle... I mean it.

 

If it weren't for Deng Xiaoping' date=' China would be like 1949 right now.[/b']