arkel Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Monsters -22-3 Raiza the Storm Monarch3 Caius2 Destiny Hero - Malicious 3 Legendary Jujitsu Master3 Destiny Hero - Defender2 Wall of Illusion2 Krebons1 Plaguespreader Zombie1 Destiny Hero - Diamond Dude1 Elemental Hero Stratos1 NSG Mole Spells -10-3 Destiny Draw2 Allure of Darkness1 Emergency Teleport1 Brain Control1 Heavy Storm1 Giant Trunade1 Mystical Space Typhoon Traps -8-2 Phoenix Wing Wind Blast2 Mind Crush1 Trap Dustshoot1 Torrential Tribute1 Mirror Force1 Call of the Haunted Total: 40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeg Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 is tronta still active?i remember trollta.I dislike this deck mainly because its the total opposite of how i run monarchs D;defender needs to go and you seem to be lacking in stratos and a destiny engine - even though this looks like one, well half of one.Way to little chance for diamonds effect here.Explain your reasoning for Thestalos > Caius especially when your running alure along side it.I like the wall of illusion but with 3 jujitsus, its losing the race.DaD would do nicely along side the d-d00ds, and pwwbs because rights now pwwb seems alittle pointless.To cut to the chase, speed monarchs:-3 thesty-3 defender-2 wall of illusion-2 pwwb-2 mind crush (to side)-1 dustshoot (to side) +1 stratos+3 plasma+1 mystic tomato+1 treeborn+1 dad+1 krebons+2 trade-in+1 lightning vortex+1 rota+1 foolish see how that works for ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkel Posted October 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 is tronta still active?i remember trollta.I dislike this deck mainly because its the total opposite of how i run monarchs D;defender needs to go and you seem to be lacking in stratos and a destiny engine - even though this looks like one' date=' well half of one.Way to little chance for diamonds effect here.Explain your reasoning for Thestalos > Caius especially when your running alure along side it.I like the wall of illusion but with 3 jujitsus, its losing the race.DaD would do nicely along side the d-d00ds, and pwwbs because rights now pwwb seems alittle pointless.To cut to the chase, speed monarchs:-3 thesty-3 defender-2 wall of illusion-2 pwwb-2 mind crush (to side)-1 dustshoot (to side) +1 stratos+3 plasma+1 mystic tomato+1 treeborn+1 dad+1 krebons+2 trade-in+1 lightning vortex+1 rota+1 foolish see how that works for ya.[/quote'] You don't really understand the point of the deck. My opponent will run into one of my walls (Illusion, Juju, Defender). All three can be used for monarch fodder the next turn, but they have bonuses as well. Illusion and Juju send back the monster that attacked, giving me the perfect opportunity for Mind Crush, Thestalos, and possibly even Dustshoot. Defender, besides serving as a wall, is also fodder for D-Draw. Raiza and PWWB give even further use for Thestalos and Mind Crush. Now that you understand the deck, can you logically find me room for Stratos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 -2 Wall +1 Stratos+1 Treeborn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkel Posted October 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 -2 Wall +1 Stratos+1 Treeborn I was tempted, but it's nowhere nearly as trolly without Wall of Illusion. Especially since it bounces even while in ATK position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeg Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 is tronta still active?i remember trollta.I dislike this deck mainly because its the total opposite of how i run monarchs D;defender needs to go and you seem to be lacking in stratos and a destiny engine - even though this looks like one' date=' well half of one.Way to little chance for diamonds effect here.Explain your reasoning for Thestalos > Caius especially when your running alure along side it.I like the wall of illusion but with 3 jujitsus, its losing the race.DaD would do nicely along side the d-d00ds, and pwwbs because rights now pwwb seems alittle pointless.To cut to the chase, speed monarchs:-3 thesty-3 defender-2 wall of illusion-2 pwwb-2 mind crush (to side)-1 dustshoot (to side) +1 stratos+3 plasma+1 mystic tomato+1 treeborn+1 dad+1 krebons+2 trade-in+1 lightning vortex+1 rota+1 foolish see how that works for ya.[/quote'] You don't really understand the point of the deck. My opponent will run into one of my walls (Illusion, Juju, Defender). All three can be used for monarch fodder the next turn, but they have bonuses as well. Illusion and Juju send back the monster that attacked, giving me the perfect opportunity for Mind Crush, Thestalos, and possibly even Dustshoot. Defender, besides serving as a wall, is also fodder for D-Draw. Raiza and PWWB give even further use for Thestalos and Mind Crush. Now that you understand the deck, can you logically find me room for Stratos? i already understood the main part.its way to slow.Monarchs need to be fast to keep up with the current meta but bws and ls can break through your wall in a sinch. lose the defenders - im fine with the bouncing though.-3 defenders+1 stratos+2 plasma -1 trunade+1 trade-in try that if you want to keep your opponents hand control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 @Smeg.The fast version (PCM) is too inconsistent/bad with CCV @0, Mali @2 and DJ Commander @0.So right now it's anti-meta or nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Um, Neo Spacian Grand Mole? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeg Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 @Smeg.The fast version (PCM) is too inconsistent/bad with CCV @0' date=' Mali @2 and DJ Commander @0.So right now it's anti-meta or nothing.[/quote']I wasn't going full pcm. just that theres no point in a 2700def defence beatstick when you can go for speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 @Smeg.The fast version (PCM) is too inconsistent/bad with CCV @0' date=' Mali @2 and DJ Commander @0.So right now it's anti-meta or nothing.[/quote']I wasn't going full pcm. just that theres no point in a 2700def defence beatstick when you can go for speed. I was talking about this part:Monarchs need to be fast to keep up with the current meta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexius Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Possibly:-1 Defender+1 Treeborn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkel Posted October 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 just that theres no point in a 2700def defence beatstick when you can go for speed. Defender is speed - it's part of the D-Draw engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Um' date=' Neo Spacian Grand Mole?[/quote'] Srsly. Oh, and why Thestalos over Caius? Am I missing something here? Malicious, Gardna, Vayu, Mezuki, I could go on are running all over the place. The Diamond Dudes look really out of place here. You have 9 Normal Spells, really no reason to run triple Diamond here except for more D-Draw targets, and you've got enough, especially once you get a Stratos in here. Too easily run over this format. -3 Thestalos-2 Diamond Dude-1 Soul Exchange +1 Stratos+1 Grand Mole+1 Raiza (what do you do if you don't have a Monarch? No reason not to max it really.)+3 Caius Monarchs need to be fast to keep up with the current meta Monarchs can't keep up with the current Meta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkel Posted October 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Changes made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeg Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 I was talking about this part:Monarchs need to be fast to keep up with the current meta o. its true.my monarchs lacked 'viewable speed' except for allure but boy it got monarchs out fast and won quick games. @arkelI guess i just dislike this build.Nothing to do with anything else.ill just piss off and continue the arguement with my and Cliff 'em all over pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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