Amethyst Phoenix Posted November 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 You're a total idiot. All you people do is complain "HORUS IS A BAD GUY AND STUFF!!1111!!" and now you gave us evidence to help him because you're just as bad. It's idiotic to try and get religious believers to convert and vice-versa' date=' there's no need for this kind of bullshit.[/quote'] Get a sense of humor. I'm not a person whining about Horus, I'm lampooning the people who do go nuts at the mention of his name, via my thread title. I'm sorry for providing a story I thought would be interesting, for someone who read the thread title, went RAEG, and jabronied about the thread without reading it. Your reaction is much akin to the kind you accuse our moderators of doing when you're playing rebellion. Gtfo hypocrite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Brushfire: even though Atheism is right. Care to prove it? Amethyst: Having no physical form doesn't mean something doesn't exist' date=' it just means it doesn't exist in a physical form.[/quote'] Fine. Prove something without physical form doesn't exist. Why would I when I can't? Everything exists. There is no "something" that doesn't exist. Not necessarily in a physical form, granted, but as soon as an idea's put out there, it exists. Fine I throw out the idea of God. Not the idea of the belief in God, the idea of God. The Christian God to be precise, if you were planning to refer to the definition of "god" rather than the entity >_> By your own logic, God exists and atheism is wrong. But then, let's say I throw out the idea of God not existing. Because that's an idea, it's true. We now have a paradox, and your logic is faulty. Atheism doesn't deny that God exists as an idea, just as a physical form. I have no evidence to refute their beliefs and won't. I'm an agnostic, and your claim of my logic being faulty seems rather baseless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushfire Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 You're a total idiot. All you people do is complain "HORUS IS A BAD GUY AND STUFF!!1111!!" and now you gave us evidence to help him because you're just as bad. It's idiotic to try and get religious believers to convert and vice-versa' date=' there's no need for this kind of bullshit.[/quote'] Get a sense of humor.Ohoho, says the guy posting a troll thread. Immature retardedness is not humour. I'm not a person whining about Horus, I'm lampooning the people who do go nuts at the mention of his name, via my title. I'm sorry for providing a story I thought would be interesting, for someone who read the thread title, went RAEG, and jabronied about the thread without reading it. You then responded to the RAEG, making you just as bad. Your reaction is much akin to the kind you accuse our moderators of doing when you're playing rebellion. Playing with words; this makes little to no sense. You have no proof that I was playing rebellion. In fact, if you're referring to Hunter the fact remains that I was the one in the right and that's why I was unbanned. Gtfo hypocrite.I actually lol'd. The phrase 'lolycm' can be used here without question. You're called ME a hypocrite with your attitude and accusation towards me when you're the one causing this by baiting HORUS and his little group of followers? You're an idiot. even though Atheism is right. Care to prove it? And join you guys? No thanks, I'm entitled to my opinion and I'm not going to shove it down anyone's throat. People can believe what they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BehindTheMask Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 You misunderstand me Amethyst, understandably. Okay, to exist, to me, is to be in either subjective or objective reality. What this means is that anything that can be seen using the 5 senses, or can be imagined exists. If you have another definition of existence...well, that is a different argument now isn't it? So' date=' if cold exists and is heat's opposite, does that make ice antimatter? You don't get it. He's not saying there's heat and cold or darkness and light. Cold, is just the absence of heat. It's used to describe situations in which there is little heat. Darkness is the absence of light. It's not the opposite of it. [/quote'] Cold does exists. How can Cold, which is the absence of heat, not exist. If the perception of cold exists, which I believe it does(because I can feel the differences of heat between me and something that has less heat), how can it also not exist? Darkness must exist, using my definition. Let us, for example, say me and you are standing in a room with the total absence light. One of us pulls out a flashlight, and turns it out. The room got illuminated, did it not? What was the light quality of the room before than? It was totally polar opposite of light. Darkness, being the absence of light, must have been in the room. For you to say "There is the total absence of light, but there is no absence of light" is contradictory. White and Black are a terrible comparison. Black is the result of pigments absorbing every color. White is the result of pigments reflecting every color. Black isn't the absence of white' date=' it's the opposite. [/quote'] I thought the White/Black analogy would be a better comparison than "White and 'anti-white'." Saying something exists because it's an abstract concept in your head is silly. I can think of unicorns' date=' so that means they're real? No, I can describe a unicorn, and think I perceive it, but I'm still not seeing it. I'm imagining it. Much like you are imagining cold or darkness is an entity. [/quote'] See my first point. You're also just throwing out time' date=' because it's an incredibly deep and unarguable concept. However, the presence of heat and the presence of light can be proven. The only counter argument to that is to deliver the scientific NO U and suggest maybe we're living in some illusion, which is irrelevant, because our world will continue the same whether we're an illusion or not. [/quote'] Comparing Time to Evolution is a fair point. Just because we do not fully understand it, does not make it any less credible. Time cannot be proven yet, as well as Evolution, however, both are needed to understand physics, and biology, respectively. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if you went on to claim nonexistence exists because it's something we can perceive' date=' even though nonexistence is just a word to describe the lack of something. [/quote'] Nonexistence cannot be perceived. >___> What he means is that dark has no physical form' date=' and is not a thing present in reality. It's merely a quality we've assigned to the absence of light. Just because something doesn't exist, doesn't mean we need a word to describe it. If you'd like to argue that it exists anyway, that would require faith, thus proving the point of the whole thing.[/quote'] Saying that something exists does not require faith. It just requires perception. If something is not perceived, it does not exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 even though Atheism is right. Care to prove it? And join you guys? No thanks' date=' I'm entitled to my opinion and I'm not going to shove it down anyone's throat. People can believe what they want.[/quote'] You already joined "us guys" by claiming that one side is right. It's customary to add an explanation or evidence of your when you claim that something is right or wrong. Either that or people can just feel free to totally ignore your unsupported claim, which you seem to be fine with me doing, so I will. You're not entitled to an opinion you can't validate with proof or at least an explanation of said opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amethyst Phoenix Posted November 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 You're a total idiot. All you people do is complain "HORUS IS A BAD GUY AND STUFF!!1111!!" and now you gave us evidence to help him because you're just as bad. It's idiotic to try and get religious believers to convert and vice-versa' date=' there's no need for this kind of bullshit.[/quote'] Get a sense of humor.Ohoho, says the guy posting a troll thread. Immature retardedness is not humour. I see my title seems to have struck a nerve then. Everything is funny until it angers you, at which point it's "immature retardedness"? And it's not a troll thread. The responses were positive and it seemed to be a success until Dark and the nazi guy came in and started talkin liek dis. I'm not a person whining about Horus, I'm lampooning the people who do go nuts at the mention of his name, via my title. I'm sorry for providing a story I thought would be interesting, for someone who read the thread title, went RAEG, and jabronied about the thread without reading it. You then responded to the RAEG, making you just as bad. First you were angry that you were being ignored, now you're an ass over the fact that I responded? Make up what little mind you have. Your reaction is much akin to the kind you accuse our moderators of doing when you're playing rebellion. Playing with words; this makes little to no sense. You have no proof that I was playing rebellion. In fact, if you're referring to Hunter the fact remains that I was the one in the right and that's why I was unbanned. Oh please. You make your cute little wisecracks about the moderators every opportunity you get. Gtfo hypocrite.I actually lol'd. The phrase 'lolycm' can be used here without question. You're called ME a hypocrite with your attitude and accusation towards me when you're the one causing this by baiting HORUS and his little group of followers? You're an idiot. This is not bait whatsoever. I suggest you get a handle on your emotions and stop seeing malevolent intent where there is none. You whined over suspicion that the Prince Hunter account was a troll attempt calling it baseless conjecture, yet now you're spouting drivel with about as much backing. even though Atheism is right. Care to prove it? And join you guys? No thanks' date=' I'm entitled to my opinion and I'm not going to shove it down anyone's throat. People can believe what they want. [i']First you scold us for debating things.....and end said scolding with an argument in said debate? Then proceed to say you're above the very thing you just did. I laughed. [/i] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushfire Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Simple as: Ignorant dick head. The fact that you block, debate against neutralism (last comment) and even the fact that you're debating religion on a Yugioh forum instead of a debate forum is hilarious. Go get a funking life. And yes, you have struck a nerve because you're such an idiot. Oh, 'successful troll is successful'? Again, all you've proved is that you can win on a Yugioh forum. I hope you're proud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BehindTheMask Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Posting, so that Amethyst can post his rebuttal to my point. Also, before our debate goes any further, I would like to say, I was pointing out the logical fallacies of the alleged student, from my stand point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 And, that's enough of that. Anything unfinished should be taken to PM's. I don't want to see anymore spam here. ~Locked~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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