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@Lost: All those who suffer when the person is done for should be the one in shame. If the person has a good reason to rid themself, like Hina did, I don't see a problem. If they had understanding friends who will always mourn and think of them without bad intentions, then that's the way to die.

 

No person should be depressed by a death. It's the way of life.

 

Like I said, I was sad when Hina was gone, but I live for her, for me, and for us.

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@Lost: All those who suffer when the person is done for should be the one in shame. If the person has a good reason to rid themself' date=' like Hina did, I don't see a problem. If they had understanding friends who will always mourn and think of them without bad intentions, then that's the way to die.

 

No person should be depressed by a death. It's the way of life.

 

Like I said, I was sad when Hina was gone, but I live for her, for me, and for us.

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Right, her MOTHER should be ashamed of herself.

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@Lost: All those who suffer when the person is done for should be the one in shame. If the person has a good reason to rid themself' date=' like Hina did, I don't see a problem. If they had understanding friends who will always mourn and think of them without bad intentions, then that's the way to die.

 

No person should be depressed by a death. It's the way of life.

 

Like I said, I was sad when Hina was gone, but I live for her, for me, and for us.

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I disagree. If the person who did commit suicide got help; maybe told a couple people bout his/her feelings, then maybe he/she could have felt better and not had the urge to kill themselves. So i guess its both side's that should be experienceing guilt.

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Logic my ass. No one can "man up" right after one of their loved one's killed themself.

And yet you think people going through horrible lives where they don't see a point in living should instantly "man up"?

 

You're thinking more for yourself than the one committing suicide, a common trait among humans and all life in general.

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@Lost: All those who suffer when the person is done for should be the one in shame. If the person has a good reason to rid themself' date=' like Hina did, I don't see a problem. If they had understanding friends who will always mourn and think of them without bad intentions, then that's the way to die.

 

No person should be depressed by a death. It's the way of life.

 

Like I said, I was sad when Hina was gone, but I live for her, for me, and for us.

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Right, her MOTHER should be ashamed of herself.

 

Actually, her mother was a b*tch. Sorry for bad language, but that's the way to sum it up.

 

To such a sweet girl, she'd be hurt by her mother. Her father had died already.

 

In this occasion, I don't see a problem.

 

She probably had hidden intentions to see her father in the after life again.

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It honestly depends on the person. I'm not able to say how I would feel because I think of every single person differently. Their suicides would all have a different affect on me.

 

Logic my ass.

It seems like that's where you're getting most of your arguments from.

 

Oh snap!

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Logic my ass. No one can "man up" right after one of their loved one's killed themself.

And yet you think people going through horrible lives where they don't see a point in living should instantly "man up"?

 

Ooh. Looks like a button was pushed. Do you have any evidence to support this claim?

 

You're thinking more for yourself than the one committing suicide' date=' a common trait among humans and all life in general.

 

[b']Actually, what im thinking is that people should be kind and at the same time stubborn, so that people's feelings are actually shared throughout each other so people dont feel bad.[/b]


It honestly depends on the person. I'm not able to say how I would feel because I think of every single person differently. Their suicides would all have a different affect on me.

 

Logic my ass.

It seems like that's where you're getting most of your arguments from.

 

Oh snap!

 

Yes it is pretty clean down there sir <3

And i agree, each person would have a different impact.

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And yet you think people going through horrible lives where they don't see a point in living should instantly "man up"?

 

Ooh. Looks like a button was pushed. Do you have any evidence to support this claim?

 

You're thinking more for yourself than the one committing suicide, a common trait among humans and all life in general.

 

Actually, what im thinking is that people should be kind and at the same time stubborn, so that people's feelings are actually shared throughout each other so people dont feel bad.

You said OMG beat you to it, when he claimed that people with suicidal thoughts "should man up" because of how their loved ones would feel.

 

We cannot change how we will act. Everything is predetermined, and as such we should learn to let things be.

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Ooh, looks like you got me there.

 

You can change how you will act. If a person killed themself near you, you'd feel different. You'd probably be nicer to people around you, be kind and giving. You'd be incredibly different from your previous persona, because that is how the human mind works. in the face of ultimate death, the human mind tries to "cope" with the extreme situations, changing your attitude towards different ideas, ideals, things, etc. It will, becuase death is the most influential thing in your life, no?

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Ooh' date=' looks like you got me there.

 

You can change how you will act. If a person killed themself near you, you'd feel different. You'd probably be nicer to people around you, be kind and giving. You'd be incredibly different from your previous persona, because that is how the human mind works. in the face of ultimate death, the human mind tries to "cope" with the extreme situations, changing your attitude towards different ideas, ideals, things, etc. It will, becuase death is the most influential thing in your life, no?

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That's not you changing yourself. That's the death changing you.

 

:S

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Ooh' date=' looks like you got me there.

 

You can change how you will act. If a person killed themself near you, you'd feel different. You'd probably be nicer to people around you, be kind and giving. You'd be incredibly different from your previous persona, because that is how the human mind works. in the face of ultimate death, the human mind tries to "cope" with the extreme situations, changing your attitude towards different ideas, ideals, things, etc. It will, becuase death is the most influential thing in your life, no?

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That's not you changing yourself. That's the death changing you.

 

:S

 

=/ Your right there.

Damn.

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Ooh' date=' looks like you got me there.

 

You can change how you will act. If a person killed themself near you, you'd feel different. You'd probably be nicer to people around you, be kind and giving. You'd be incredibly different from your previous persona, because that is how the human mind works. in the face of ultimate death, the human mind tries to "cope" with the extreme situations, changing your attitude towards different ideas, ideals, things, etc. It will, becuase death is the most influential thing in your life, no?

[/quote']

 

That's not you changing yourself. That's the death changing you.

 

:S

 

=/ Your right there.

Damn.

Yeah, I realized this about a week ago. If what we do depends on who we are innately and what has effected us from outside sources, there isn't really such a thing as free will. Everything is simply a logical reaction. :[

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Ooh' date=' looks like you got me there.

 

You can change how you will act. If a person killed themself near you, you'd feel different. You'd probably be nicer to people around you, be kind and giving. You'd be incredibly different from your previous persona, because that is how the human mind works. in the face of ultimate death, the human mind tries to "cope" with the extreme situations, changing your attitude towards different ideas, ideals, things, etc. It will, becuase death is the most influential thing in your life, no?

[/quote']

 

That's not you changing yourself. That's the death changing you.

 

:S

 

=/ Your right there.

Damn.

Yeah, I realized this about a week ago. If what we do depends on who we are innately and what has effected us from outside sources, there isn't really such a thing as free will. Everything is simply a logical reaction. :[

 

Behaviorism ftw?

 

I'd be happy for them.

 

They finally escape the illusion.

 

Matrix?

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Suicide is when someone abandons hope.

 

But hope left to gather dust begins to become chains. It easily transforms into hopelessness.

 

But hope can be an inspiration, hope can keep you going.

 

You must harness that hope, and put forth effort to make a difference and change the situation. Never give up, even as you die, never lose faith.

 

If I were to ever consider giving up, I merely remember this, and I push onwards:

 

"Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain, or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!"

 

If it's always darkest before the dawn, then what if that deepest darkness is what pushes you over the edge?

 

Resolve and hope will be your wings.

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