Is this card OP?

[RavenArchangel]

Its in my Red Eyes and Blue Eyes Deck, which has a few monsters with 1800 ATK that are Blue Eyes and Red Eyes Monster cards. (Made myself) My brother said the card is cheap. Is it? Is it OP? If this card were real, would it be the type to be banned? If so, what would you suggest changed to make it not?

 

Blue Eyes Black Dragon

Level 8 ATK 3500 DEF 2000 Dark Type.

Effect: This Card cannot be Normal Summoned or set. Can only be Special Summoned by tribute of a card with "Red Eyes" or "Blue Eyes" in its name. This card can also be treated as a Light Card. Also, this card can destroy 1 monster on the field (Regardless of Position) This card can be used in the place of one monster required to summon a fusion monster or Synchro Monster.

[Ornithopter]

"This card is also treated as a LIGHT monster. This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except by tributing 1 "Red Eyes" or "Blue Eyes" monster you control."

Ahmm... The rest I think I don't know how to fix. Pic is overused. Yes, this can be a bit OP'd, in my opinion.

7/10

[RavenArchangel]

"This card is also treated as a LIGHT monster. This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except by tributing 1 "Red Eyes" or "Blue Eyes" monster you control."

Ahmm... The rest I think I don't know how to fix. Pic is overused. Yes' date=' this can be a bit OP'd, in my opinion.

7/10

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I'm tired of people saying a pic is overused. Its the only time I've used this pic, so that should be all that matters. Instead focus more on the card itself. Though I should definately make those OCG fixes, instead of wasting the effort, I need to know how to make the card less OP first.

 

My goal was to make it have higher attack than Blue Eyes, (so in exchange I figured it can't be normal summoned) have the effect of man eater bug, and be able to fight LVL cards.

 

What if I took out the fusion/Synchro effect and made it more difficult to summon somehow? (If so..how?)

[SushiTheLegend]

"This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card can only be Special Summoned by Tributing a monster with "Red-Eyes" or "Blue-Eyes" in it's name. If this card was Tribute Summoned with a monster with "Red-Eyes" in it's name this card's Attribute is DARK, if this card was Tribute Summoned with a monster with "Blue-Eyes" in it's name this card's Attribute is LIGHT. Once per turn, you can select and destroy 1 monster on the field. You can substitute this card for any 1 Fusion Material Monster or any 1 Synchro Material Monster."

 

It is a tad bit overpowered, since you could tribute Red-Eyes Black Chick and the destruction plus substitution is a overpowering too.

[RavenArchangel]

"This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card can only be Special Summoned by Tributing a monster with "Red-Eyes" or "Blue-Eyes" in it's name. If this card was Tribute Summoned with a monster with "Red-Eyes" in it's name this card's Attribute is DARK' date=' if this card was Tribute Summoned with a monster with "Blue-Eyes" in it's name this card's Attribute is LIGHT. Once per turn, you can select and destroy 1 monster on the field. You can substitute this card for any 1 Fusion Material Monster or any 1 Synchro Material Monster."

 

It is a tad bit overpowered, since you could tribute Red-Eyes Black Chick and the destruction plus substitution is a overpowering too.

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Hmm...no..that doesn't seem like it'd work. Makes it more OP by the sounds of it...

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Here's a suggestion guys..tell me if its less OP if I do this:

Level 8 ATK 3300 DEF 2000 Dark Type.

Effect: This card can also be treated as a Light Card. Also, this card can destroy 1 monster on the field (Regardless of Position)

 

Then it'd be like all level 8's and require two tributes to summon, but it could be any two. And its attack is less and the Fusion/Synchro Effect is gone.

[Aa'une]

Yes this card is a little OP'd because, there are tuns of cards with red-eyes in it's name including Red Eyes Black Chick, Red Eyes Black Dragon, Red Eyes Darkness Dragon, Red Eyes Zombie Dragon.

[Ornithopter]

Many people used that pic before. 'Cause this it is Overused. But now I see, it is not that OP'd... Because in the last effect you say that this card can be used to fusion summon or synchro summon. But who would like to tribute a 3500 ATK monster easily Summoned? Can be easily Summoned if your deck is all made here, in YCM, because you can make any monster with "Blue Eyes" on the name. Untill a 1 Lvl monster "/ . If your deck has all real cards, it is not much OP'D, but still is (there are many monster with "Blue Eyes" and "Red eyes" on the name, like Aprentice said.)

Hmm, in the part of the effect you say "This card can destroy 1 monster on the field (Regardless of Position). "Regardless of Position" is unecesary. But this part of the effect is a bit confuse. Because I don't know if it can destroy a monster every turn, or only once. You could say : "If this card is succesfully Special Summoned, you can select 1 monster on the field and destroy it."

[RavenArchangel]

Many people used that pic before. 'Cause this it is Overused. But now I see' date=' it is not that OP'd... Because in the last effect you say that this card can be used to fusion summon or synchro summon. But who would like to tribute a 3500 ATK monster easily Summoned? Can be easily Summoned if your deck is all made here, in YCM, because you can make any monster with "Blue Eyes" on the name. Untill a 1 Lvl monster "/ . If your deck has all real cards, it is not much OP'D, but still is (there are many monster with "Blue Eyes" and "Red eyes" on the name, like Aprentice said.)

Hmm, in the part of the effect you say "This card can destroy 1 monster on the field (Regardless of Position). "Regardless of Position" is unecesary. But this part of the effect is a bit confuse. Because I don't know if it can destroy a monster every turn, or only once. You could say : "If this card is succesfully Special Summoned, you can select 1 monster on the field and destroy it."

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I copied the effect of Man Eater Bug word for word with the Destroy reguardless of position thing. Also, It's not all a real deck. I have a few 4 star monsters with 1800 ATK that have Blue Eyes and Red Eyes in their names. Like 4 or so. Though its mostly a real deck, for example I have I have Red Eyes Black Dragon and Blue Eyes White Dragon (X2) in my deck. Other than that though, its not any Red Eyes or Blue Eyes. I do have an 1800 ATK Red Eyes in my deck that can be summoned from my deck or grave with a special Spell card though. (Which obviously I made)

[Ornithopter]

Many people used that pic before. 'Cause this it is Overused. But now I see' date=' it is not that OP'd... Because in the last effect you say that this card can be used to fusion summon or synchro summon. But who would like to tribute a 3500 ATK monster easily Summoned? Can be easily Summoned if your deck is all made here, in YCM, because you can make any monster with "Blue Eyes" on the name. Untill a 1 Lvl monster "/ . If your deck has all real cards, it is not much OP'D, but still is (there are many monster with "Blue Eyes" and "Red eyes" on the name, like Aprentice said.)

Hmm, in the part of the effect you say "This card can destroy 1 monster on the field (Regardless of Position). "Regardless of Position" is unecesary. But this part of the effect is a bit confuse. Because I don't know if it can destroy a monster every turn, or only once. You could say : "If this card is succesfully Special Summoned, you can select 1 monster on the field and destroy it."

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I copied the effect of Man Eater Bug word for word with the Destroy reguardless of position thing. Also, It's not all a real deck. I have a few 4 star monsters with 1800 ATK that have Blue Eyes and Red Eyes in their names. Like 4 or so. Then I have Red Eyes Black Dragon and Blue Eyes White Dragon (X2) in my deck. Though its mostly a real deck.

 

Hmm. So I think it's optional, because i've never seen it in an effect here in YCM. But it seems better without for me :~'

[RavenArchangel]

-points up- I added more to my post lol. Now I can see where its a strong deck, though not sure if its OP. Its possible though..in which case I need to know how to make it less so -.-

 

and without? huh? What do you mean?

[Ornithopter]

-points up- I added more to my post lol. Now I can see where its a strong deck' date=' though not sure if its OP. Its possible though..in which case I need to know how to make it less so -.-

 

and without? huh? What do you mean?

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If you hadn't wrote Regardless of Position would seem better

It's what I mean.

[SushiTheLegend]

Actually the effect I proposed about the Attribute makes it less broken not OP'd. I simply corrected your OCG and modified the attribute part.

[RavenArchangel]

Actually the effect I proposed about the Attribute makes it less broken not OP'd. I simply corrected your OCG and modified the attribute part.

No, you made it once every turn instead of 1 monster in general (aka one time only) and modified the attribute part...though I feel the modification to the attribute was unecessary

[SushiTheLegend]

It wasn't unnecessary, and I thought the destruction effect was once per turn you didn't make that clear. So you'd rather it be OP'd in that it can be a LIGHT and DARK? Or just one depending on what was used?

[RavenArchangel]

It wasn't unnecessary' date=' and I thought the destruction effect was once per turn you didn't make that clear. So you'd rather it be OP'd in that it can be a LIGHT and DARK? Or just one depending on what was used?

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Well, that's because I copied the effect of man eater bug. I made the effect exactly the same in that regard. Word for word. And it didn't specify so its presumed it means one time only.

 

If you don't believe me, look at it yourself.

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Man-Eater_Bug

 

EDIT: Woah, it got rid of the (Regardless of position) part..well my man eater bug I own has it. OH and I got rid of it being a flip effect on the one I made up as well.

 

Oh and as for it being both Light and Dark..how is that OP if that stays the same?

[Havok_SCO]

This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card can only be Special Summoned by removing from play 1 "Red Eyes Black Dragon" and 1 "Blue Eyes White Dragon" from your Graveyard. This card's attribute is also treated as a LIGHT monster. Once per turn this card can destroy 1 face-up monster on your opponent's side of the field, this card cannot attack during the same turn this effect is activated. This monster can be used as a substitute for any Dragon type Fusion monster.

 

Thats the effect I would give him. Sorta has a Chaos feel to it like Chaos Sorcerer. I left out the part about synchros because they have nothing to do with Blue eyes or Red eyes. This monster would still be easy to summon with the above effect with cards like Future Fusion being used to summon FGD. Put a BEWD and a REBD in your Grave as fodder and remove them to instantly pull out this beast. Honestly though BEWD and REBD don't belong in the same deck in my opinion. They are better suited for their own respective themed decks. Hope this helped and sry if my own OCG is off. I'm still new to OCG.

[SushiTheLegend]

It's OP'd in the fact it gets support from LIGHT and DARK support instead of just one or the other. And actually Man-Eater Bug is pretty old OCG, Old Vindictive Magician is more updated.

[Yugiohrulez!]

looks fine to me. 8/9.9

[Havok_SCO]

If its a one time only effect for destroying a monster its best to say something like "When this card is Special Summoned" then add the effect. I think my fix above works out better though letting you use it once per turn.

 

As far as Light/Dark attribute its no different than Light and Darkness dragon or whatever its called?

[RavenArchangel]

If its a one time only effect for destroying a monster its best to say something like "When this card is Special Summoned" then add the effect. I think my fix above works out better though letting you use it once per turn.

 

As far as Light/Dark attribute its no different than Light and Darkness dragon or whatever its called?

Kinda. Except its Light Blue Eyes plus Dark Red Eyes,.basically it has the blood of both but isn't a fusion, its more like its parents were Blue Eyes and Red Eyes in origin..know what I mean?

[Havok_SCO]

Bro you lost me haha I didn't say anything about how they are made or whatever. I was talking about a mosnter having dual light/dark attribute. IDK I like the fix I made but its your card. Do with it as you please.

[RavenArchangel]

Okay..well then what I was saying was, Yeah there is Dark/Light Dragon, but that's fine because this'll have both too, and I don't mind that a real Dragon Card has it as well. Then just said the origin.

[Havok_SCO]

Oh I like the idea of it having both. It was the other guy that said that made it OP'ed. I was on your side. Did you like any of my other fixes? You never said anything about that?

[RavenArchangel]

This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card can only be Special Summoned by removing from play 1 "Red Eyes Black Dragon" and 1 "Blue Eyes White Dragon" from your Graveyard. This card's attribute is also treated as a LIGHT monster. Once per turn this card can destroy 1 face-up monster on your opponent's side of the field' date=' this card cannot attack during the same turn this effect is activated. This monster can be used as a substitute for any Dragon type Fusion monster.

 

Thats the effect I would give him. Sorta has a Chaos feel to it like Chaos Sorcerer. I left out the part about synchros because they have nothing to do with Blue eyes or Red eyes. This monster would still be easy to summon with the above effect with cards like Future Fusion being used to summon FGD. Put a BEWD and a REBD in your Grave as fodder and remove them to instantly pull out this beast. Honestly though BEWD and REBD don't belong in the same deck in my opinion. They are better suited for their own respective themed decks. Hope this helped and sry if my own OCG is off. I'm still new to OCG.

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Didn't notice this lol..hmm..no. Then it might as well be a Contact Fusion Card with more Attack and defense. My goal was its an effect monster, not a fusion. That's what I was getting at before. Its not two monsters fusing. Its their child. Don't leave out the synchro because I have plans in reguards to that, hence why I did it that way..but if it makes it cheap I can leave it out, possibly. Overall I'd say I'm not that big of a fan of this edit for some reason.

[Havok_SCO]

IDK what to tell you bro. If you leave it with just plain tributeing its too hard to have BEWD and REBD out at the same time. Removing them from the grave makes it more like Chaos Sorcerer not more like a fusion. Unless you consider it a fusion of thier spirits.

 

If your going to leave the sychro part then you need to specify which sychro or it makes it way to OP'd.

 

If you want it to be a baby of the two I would make a babe BEBD and then use it like Red-Eyes Black Chic for your BEBD or something....IDK. That seems kinda lame to me and I wouldn't use it to be honest.