ayy lmao Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Yeah, I was wondering, so in class we've been learning a bit about about the plague and those times. Well what are your thoughts about those times and the Bubonic Plgue and if it was in major countries now what it would be like. Discuss. [spoiler=Bubonic Plague Clear Up]Bubonic plague is the best known manifestation of the bacterial disease plague, caused by the Gram-negative bacterium Yersinia pestis (formerly known as Pasteurella pestis). It belongs to the family Enterobacteriaceae. The term "bubonic plague" was often used synonymously for plague, but it does in fact refer specifically to an infection that enters through the skin and travels through the lymphatics, as is often seen in flea-borne infections. Bubonic plague kills about half of infected patients in 3–7 days without treatment, and may be the Black Death that swept through Europe in the 1340s, killing tens of millions. The deadly disease has claimed nearly 200 million lives (although there is some debate as to whether all of the plagues attributed to it are in fact the same disease). The first recorded epidemic ravaged the Byzantine Empire during the sixth century, and was named the Plague of Justinian after emperor Justinian I, who was infected but survived. The most infamous and devastating instance of the plague was the Black Death, which killed a quarter to half of the population of Europe. The Black Death is thought to have originated in the Gobi Desert. Carried by the fleas on rats, it spread along trade routes and reached the Crimea in 1346. In 1347 it spread to Constantinople and then Alexandria, killing thousands every day, and soon arrived in Western Europe. It is thought that the name Black Death comes from the fact that the tissue turns a distinctive black color during necrosis, or from the general gloominess surrounding the plague. The next few centuries were marked by several local outbreaks of lesser severity. The Great Plague of London, 1665–1666, and the Great Plague of Vienna, 1679, were the last major outbreaks of the bubonic plague in Europe. Directions for searchers, Pune plague of 1897.he plague resurfaced in the mid-19th century; like the Black Death, the Third Pandemic began in Central Asia. The disease killed millions in China and India and then spread worldwide. The outbreak continued into the early 20th century. In 1897, Pune in British India, was severely affected by the outbreak. The government responded to the plague with a Committee system that used the military to perpetrate repression and tyranny as it tackled the pandemic. Nationalists publicly berated the government. On 22 June 1897, two young brahmins, the Chapekar brothers, shot and killed two British officers, the Committee chairman and his military escort. This act has been considered a landmark event in India's struggle for freedom as well as the worst violence against political authority seen in the world during the third plague pandemic. Plague was used during the Second Sino-Japanese War as a bacteriological weapon by the Imperial Japanese Army.These weapons were provided by Shirō Ishii's units and used in experiments on humans before being used on the field.For example, in 1940, the Imperial Japanese Army Air Service bombed Ningbo with fleas carrying the bubonic plague.During the Khabarovsk War Crime Trials the accused, such as Major General Kiyashi Kawashima, testified that, in 1941, some 40 members of Unit 731 air-dropped plague-contaminated fleas on Changde.These operations caused epidemic plague outbreaks. The most famous symptom of bubonic plague is painful, swollen lymph glands, called buboes. These are commonly found in the armpits, groin or neck. The bubonic plague was the first step of the ongoing plague. Two other forms of the plague, pneumonic and septicemic, resulted after a patient with the bubonic plague developed pneumonia or blood poisoning. The Pneumonic plague was the most infectious, as, unlike the bubonic or septicemic, it induced coughing, which allowed person-to-person spread. Other symptoms include spots on the skin that are red at first and then turn black, heavy breathing, continuous blood vomiting, aching limbs, coughing, and terrible pain. The pain is usually caused by the actual decaying, or decomposing, of the skin while the person is still alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juuzou Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 With today's medicine, it probably could be cured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayy lmao Posted November 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 With today's medicine' date=' it probably could be cured.[/quote'] Maybe, it recently surfaced in China and the morality rate by the people who recieved it was 40-60%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Anything that devastating wouldn't be 'easy' to cure at any time, but with today's technology we'd certainly fare better than those years ago, because there was like no experience with it. It would be possible to create a medicine for it and whatnot, but look at Swine Flu today. I mean, they've developed a vaccination and still there's tons of people who haven't gotten it yet. Granted, I don't think it's been tested well enough and personally I don't want to get the shot, but at least they have some sort of way to 'cure' it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayy lmao Posted November 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Anything that devastating wouldn't be 'easy' to cure at any time' date=' but with today's technology we'd certainly fare better than those years ago, because there was like no experience with it. It would be possible to create a medicine for it and whatnot, but look at Swine Flu today. I mean, they've developed a vaccination and still there's tons of people who haven't gotten it yet. Granted, I don't think it's been tested well enough and personally I don't want to get the shot, but at least they have some sort of way to 'cure' it.[/quote'] Quite true, but, Swine Flu isn't as serious as the Bubonic Plague. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Anything that devastating wouldn't be 'easy' to cure at any time' date=' but with today's technology we'd certainly fare better than those years ago, because there was like no experience with it. It would be possible to create a medicine for it and whatnot, but look at Swine Flu today. I mean, they've developed a vaccination and still there's tons of people who haven't gotten it yet. Granted, I don't think it's been tested well enough and personally I don't want to get the shot, but at least they have some sort of way to 'cure' it.[/quote'] Quite true, but, Swine Flu isn't as serious as the Bubonic Plague. The point I was attempting to make there is that something like Swine Flu, which is a bit of a bigger deal than people are making of it, although it's still not good by any means, has taken this long to get a vaccination for. There's no outbreak of the Bubonic Plague, so right now no one's making any kind of vaccine. The Plague would be more devastating, and yet it would probably take just as long (if not longer) to come up with some sort of 'cure'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juuzou Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Anything that devastating wouldn't be 'easy' to cure at any time' date=' but with today's technology we'd certainly fare better than those years ago, because there was like no experience with it. It would be possible to create a medicine for it and whatnot, but look at Swine Flu today. I mean, they've developed a vaccination and still there's tons of people who haven't gotten it yet. Granted, I don't think it's been tested well enough and personally I don't want to get the shot, but at least they have some sort of way to 'cure' it.[/quote'] normal flu is worse than swine flu; your point is irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Anything that devastating wouldn't be 'easy' to cure at any time' date=' but with today's technology we'd certainly fare better than those years ago, because there was like no experience with it. It would be possible to create a medicine for it and whatnot, but look at Swine Flu today. I mean, they've developed a vaccination and still there's tons of people who haven't gotten it yet. Granted, I don't think it's been tested well enough and personally I don't want to get the shot, but at least they have some sort of way to 'cure' it.[/quote'] normal flu is worse than swine flu; your point is irrelevant. In a sense, yes. But technically Swine Flu is worse at the moment because people don't have an immunity built up to it. People who get the Flu Shot are usually safe from getting the Flu, whereas until now there was no Swine Flu shot. The symptoms of the Flu are worse, but the Swine Flu is more dangerous because the body doesn't know how to react to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juuzou Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Anything that devastating wouldn't be 'easy' to cure at any time' date=' but with today's technology we'd certainly fare better than those years ago, because there was like no experience with it. It would be possible to create a medicine for it and whatnot, but look at Swine Flu today. I mean, they've developed a vaccination and still there's tons of people who haven't gotten it yet. Granted, I don't think it's been tested well enough and personally I don't want to get the shot, but at least they have some sort of way to 'cure' it.[/quote'] normal flu is worse than swine flu; your point is irrelevant. In a sense, yes. But technically Swine Flu is worse at the moment because people don't have an immunity built up to it. People who get the Flu Shot are usually safe from getting the Flu, whereas until now there was no Swine Flu shot. The symptoms of the Flu are worse, but the Swine Flu is more dangerous because the body doesn't know how to react to it. Though the body doesn't know how to defend against the swine flu, it's easier to defend against it as it is normal flu to the un-attacked body. So, your point is correct for the duration of the flu season, and at end most people will gain a better immunity to it, and it will be weaker. Though you may have a valid point, it's validity will only last for the duration of flu season. In a long term scale, Flu is worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Anything that devastating wouldn't be 'easy' to cure at any time' date=' but with today's technology we'd certainly fare better than those years ago, because there was like no experience with it. It would be possible to create a medicine for it and whatnot, but look at Swine Flu today. I mean, they've developed a vaccination and still there's tons of people who haven't gotten it yet. Granted, I don't think it's been tested well enough and personally I don't want to get the shot, but at least they have some sort of way to 'cure' it.[/quote'] normal flu is worse than swine flu; your point is irrelevant. In a sense, yes. But technically Swine Flu is worse at the moment because people don't have an immunity built up to it. People who get the Flu Shot are usually safe from getting the Flu, whereas until now there was no Swine Flu shot. The symptoms of the Flu are worse, but the Swine Flu is more dangerous because the body doesn't know how to react to it. Though the body doesn't know how to defend against the swine flu, it's easier to defend against it as it is normal flu to the un-attacked body. So, your point is correct for the duration of the flu season, and at end most people will gain a better immunity to it, and it will be weaker. Though you may have a valid point, it's validity will only last for the duration of flu season. In a long term scale, Flu is worse. Fair enough. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemniscate Posted November 16, 2009 Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 With today's medicine' date=' it probably could be cured.[/quote'] It's called Tularemia, and yes, it is curable.Not much to discuss here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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