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My set of cards to support the great dragon itself, the Blue Eyes White Dragon. Enjoy!

 

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Effect: This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except by tributing 1 "Blue-Eyes White Dragon" you control. During battle between this attacking card and a Defense Position monster whose DEF is lower than the ATK of this card, inflict the difference as Battle Damage to your opponent. When this card is destroyed by battle, you can Special Summon 1 "Blue-Eyes White Dragon" from your Graveyard in Defense Position.

 

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Effect: When this monster is Summoned, you can add up to 3 Dragon-type monsters from your Graveyard to your Deck, shuffle and draw the same number of cards. As long as this card is on the field, you can Normal Summon "Blue-Eyes White Dragon" without tributing. As long as you control a Dragon-type monster, this monster cannot be targeted for an attack.

 

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As always, criticism is encouraged, as long as it is constructive.

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May I suggest 2500?

Really' date=' Jazin? Could you do me a favor and find 1 fusion monster with less base ATK than one of the monsters going into it? I'm not going to make its ATK less than Blue Eyes, I'm just curious is all.

 

given it has a boosting ability of its own, 3000 atk should be sufficient for it

How about 3200? Does that please and sparkle with everyone? I just put up a rough version that I hope will make it perfect.
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May I suggest 2500?

Really' date=' Jazin? Could you do me a favor and find 1 fusion monster with less base ATK than one of the monsters going into it? I'm not going to make its ATK less than Blue Eyes, I'm just curious is all.

 

given it has a boosting ability of its own, 3000 atk should be sufficient for it

How about 3200? Does that please and sparkle with everyone? I just put up a rough version that I hope will make it perfect.

 

You could do 3200, but you'd have to lower the atk boosting

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@ Emerald Fan:

Dark Flare Knight.

 

bam-bum *cymbals*

 

I was about to post that myself; good man. That's rep material :D.

 

As for these cards, I dislike them. The pictures need MAJOR reworkings, and about half of the cards are overpowered and unbalanced.

 

Let the trials begin:

 

"Balance of the Dragon Lords" -- REBD meets a Frost Dragon from D&D ('cause that's not a "Blue-Eyes"). As for OSGSP, 'one'='1', 'deck'='Deck', and "Blue Eyes White Dragon"="Blue-Eyes White Dragon".

 

"Mark of the Great Dragon" -- Pacific Northwest Native Americans + BEWD doesn't make sense to me... though you could pull it off if you had a background. Which you don't. Add a background, so the visuals are decent. The same OCGSP corrections apply here as in "Balance of the Dragon Lords".

 

"Seto Kaiba-Dragon Master" -- *cries*. OVERpowered. It's a 1-tribute monster that gives you THREE free draws PLUS "Exodius"-style shuffling of monster back into your Deck (but without the whole 0 ATK thing).

So let's change that effect. First of all, either this card should make you lose during your next End Phase, or you need to remove 80% of this card's effect. Take off the 3-card-draw thing (easily the most overpowered, a 3-card advantage is WAYYY bad), as well as the Graveyard-shuffling thing. THEN tone down the summoning effect. Seeing as Kaiba is more of a BEWD guy than a Dragon-type monsters guy, change his ability to something more of: 'Once per turn, instead of conducting a Normal Summon, you may Special Summon 1 "Blue-Eyes White Dragon" from your hand."

At that point, you'll NOW have a balanced card. Anything more than that, and this card will shift to the BANNED side again.

OCGSP I'll fix after you've polished the effect.

And as for visuals... well, your picture looks like it was put through a garbage compactor. Crop it. And the name needs a space on the sides of the hyphen. (So: "Seto Kaiba - Dragon Master"... and he's not really a Dragon Master anyway...)

It's bad, but fixable...

 

"Supreme Dragon Backlash" -- OP. OP. OP. OP.... annnd OP. Your opponent destroys BEWD, and you can use this card to bring him back.... ALONG WITH ANOTHER CARD. "Call of the Haunted" brings a monster back, and it stays on the field (making the card doubly vulnerable). "Rope of Life" does the same thing with a +800 ATK boost, but it requires you to discard your entire hand. THIS GUY is the equivalent of "Rope of Life" + awesome - any detriment.... which makes him OVERPOWERED. Congrats. I recommend changing the effect up completely. Seeing as it's "Dragon Backlash", I'd do something that actually lashes back. Like dealing burn damage. Or destroying a monster... and change that picture. It's from Naruto (I believe) and it's horrid to boot.

 

"Blue Eyes Toy Dragon" -- ehhhh... free summon? Don't like it. Bad idea. You summon "Luster Dragon" and BOOM get a 3000 ATK monster on the field for monster-destroying aggro (yes, I know he doesn't deal damage, but he's strong enough to crush any monster in his way). Plus, you could get a Special Summon out ("Masked Dragon" or something of the like), summon "Toy", and then tribute off for BEWD himself... sooo I'm apprehensive. But it's not overpowered compared to today's metagame... maybe semi-limited.

 

"Blue Eyes White Magician Girl" -- AHAHAHA OVERPOWERED!!!! You can substitute for BEWD, and summon this card with very limited dead-drawing (or you could substitute for "Dark Magician Girl", but you'll probably have removed your BEWDs with "Dragon's Mirror" anyway..). Then this card probably has +300 to +600 ATK by the time it's summoned (3500-3800 ATK), and it'll deal some heavy damage. Too easy to summon + too strong. Needs a detriment.

 

"Blue Eyes White Roar" -- Good idea. I like it :D. But the OCGSP is bad. Here's a reworked version:

'Tribute 1 face-up "Blue-Eyes White Dragon" you control. Destroy all face-up Attack Position monsters on your opponent's side of the field with less ATK than the tributed monster.'

 

there you go! That was a lot of work....

 

Warm Regards,

:mrgreen:

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@ Emerald Fan:

Dark Flare Knight.

 

bam-bum *cymbals*

 

I was about to post that myself; good man. That's rep material :D.

 

As for these cards' date=' I dislike them. The pictures need MAJOR reworkings, and about half of the cards are overpowered and unbalanced.

 

Let the trials begin:

 

"Balance of the Dragon Lords" -- REBD meets a Frost Dragon from D&D ('cause that's not a "Blue-Eyes"). As for OSGSP, 'one'='1', 'deck'='Deck', and "Blue Eyes White Dragon"="Blue-Eyes White Dragon".

 

"Mark of the Great Dragon" -- Pacific Northwest Native Americans + BEWD doesn't make sense to me... though you could pull it off if you had a background. Which you don't. Add a background, so the visuals are decent. The same OCGSP corrections apply here as in "Balance of the Dragon Lords".

 

"Seto Kaiba-Dragon Master" -- *cries*. OVERpowered. It's a 1-tribute monster that gives you THREE free draws PLUS "Exodius"-style shuffling of monster back into your Deck (but without the whole 0 ATK thing).

So let's change that effect. First of all, either this card should make you lose during your next End Phase, or you need to remove 80% of this card's effect. Take off the 3-card-draw thing (easily the most overpowered, a 3-card advantage is WAYYY bad), as well as the Graveyard-shuffling thing. THEN tone down the summoning effect. Seeing as Kaiba is more of a BEWD guy than a Dragon-type monsters guy, change his ability to something more of: 'Once per turn, instead of conducting a Normal Summon, you may Special Summon 1 "Blue-Eyes White Dragon" from your hand."

At that point, you'll NOW have a balanced card. Anything more than that, and this card will shift to the BANNED side again.

OCGSP I'll fix after you've polished the effect.

And as for visuals... well, your picture looks like it was put through a garbage compactor. Crop it. And the name needs a space on the sides of the hyphen. (So: "Seto Kaiba - Dragon Master"... and he's not really a Dragon Master anyway...)

It's bad, but fixable...

 

"Supreme Dragon Backlash" -- OP. OP. OP. OP.... annnd OP. Your opponent destroys BEWD, and you can use this card to bring him back.... ALONG WITH ANOTHER CARD. "Call of the Haunted" brings a monster back, and it stays on the field (making the card doubly vulnerable). "Rope of Life" does the same thing with a +800 ATK boost, but it requires you to discard your entire hand. THIS GUY is the equivalent of "Rope of Life" + awesome - any detriment.... which makes him OVERPOWERED. Congrats. I recommend changing the effect up completely. Seeing as it's "Dragon Backlash", I'd do something that actually lashes back. Like dealing burn damage. Or destroying a monster... and change that picture. It's from Naruto (I believe) and it's horrid to boot.

 

"Blue Eyes Toy Dragon" -- ehhhh... free summon? Don't like it. Bad idea. You summon "Luster Dragon" and BOOM get a 3000 ATK monster on the field for monster-destroying aggro (yes, I know he doesn't deal damage, but he's strong enough to crush any monster in his way). Plus, you could get a Special Summon out ("Masked Dragon" or something of the like), summon "Toy", and then tribute off for BEWD himself... sooo I'm apprehensive. But it's not overpowered compared to today's metagame... maybe semi-limited.

 

"Blue Eyes White Magician Girl" -- AHAHAHA OVERPOWERED!!!! You can substitute for BEWD, and summon this card with very limited dead-drawing (or you could substitute for "Dark Magician Girl", but you'll probably have removed your BEWDs with "Dragon's Mirror" anyway..). Then this card probably has +300 to +600 ATK by the time it's summoned (3500-3800 ATK), and it'll deal some heavy damage. Too easy to summon + too strong. Needs a detriment.

 

"Blue Eyes White Roar" -- Good idea. I like it :D. But the OCGSP is bad. Here's a reworked version:

'Tribute 1 face-up "Blue-Eyes White Dragon" you control. Destroy all face-up Attack Position monsters on your opponent's side of the field with less ATK than the tributed monster.'

 

there you go! That was a lot of work....

 

Warm Regards,

:mrgreen:

[/quote']

First off, I would like to thank you for the bump and actually going into detail about the cards. Noone seems to want to do that when they review, and I appreciate it. So, let's begin the talks:

 

Balance of the Dragon Lords: REBD is in fact meeting a BEWD, not a "Frost Dragon from D&D". You can tell when you look at the body and the spikes on the sides of its mouth. I will try to work on the grammar, I didn't realize BEWD had a "-" in its name. Sorry.

 

Mark of the Great Dragon: What does "Pacific Northwest Native Americans" have to do with the card? Its just a mark, could be made by anyone. The reason I didn't even try for a background is so the mark could be seen in all its glory.

 

Seto Kaiba-Dragon Master: OK, I'll admit that his effect does make him a bit unhinged for gameplay. Now, that being said, I think completely taking him down is a bit extreme. First off, making you lose during your next turn tips the card from balanced to just plain gamble-like. Were I to put that effect, all my opponent has to do is have a Winged Kuriboh on the field or a Threatening Roar to survive a turn and they win. It might be just me, but that makes this card not worth it. Second, this is what I hate about actual gameplay. Any advantage whatsoever and a card is considered ban-worthy. I'll reduce the draw to 2 but it has to give you something. Third, how about this: I take out the Special Summon any dragon from your hand effect and replace it with an effect like "As long as this card is on the field, you can Normal Summon "Blue-Eyes White Dragon" without tribute." Sound good? Fourth, the "every Dragon-Type monster in your Graveyard" shuffling thing, I'll admit, is a bit much. I'll work on that. Fifth, would you mind going into a little detail on why you think the pic needs cropping? Sixth, I didn't even think about the hyphen. Thanks. By the way, Seto Kaiba is a "Dragon Master". In the course of the Anime, he has used 13 different Dragon-Type monsters, including the BEWD. He's not just about Blue-Eyes.

 

Supreme Dragon Backlash: Yes, you might think its overpowered. I was actually thinking about drawing back the power a little bit. The "Backlash" part is the entire point. Its a "You killed 1, now you have to deal with more." kind of thing. And yes, the pic is from Naruto.

 

Blue Eyes Toy Dragon: Let's get the biggest error out of the way. This card does not summon itself. The Special Summoning part of its effect only means that you can only use an effect like Monster Reborn or King Dragun to summon it if you control a normal Dragon. That combined with its "No Damage" effect is why I put it at level 6. Maybe Level 7 and a slight ATK downgrade will help it.

 

Blue Eyes White Magician Girl: Does everything really need a big detriment? The highest ATK you could get it is 5000 ATK, and that is only if you put 3 of each BEWD and DM in your Graveyard. What would you consider a detriment big enough to "balance" this card?

 

Blue Eyes White Roar: Thanks for the updated OCG, I'll change it.

 

Well, that's about it I think. I have a lot of changes to make so I will get to it. Thanks for the review, again.

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@ Emerald Fan:

Dark Flare Knight.

 

bam-bum *cymbals*

 

I was about to post that myself; good man. That's rep material :D.

 

As for these cards' date=' I dislike them. The pictures need MAJOR reworkings, and about half of the cards are overpowered and unbalanced.

 

Let the trials begin:

 

"Balance of the Dragon Lords" -- REBD meets a Frost Dragon from D&D ('cause that's not a "Blue-Eyes"). As for OSGSP, 'one'='1', 'deck'='Deck', and "Blue Eyes White Dragon"="Blue-Eyes White Dragon".

 

"Mark of the Great Dragon" -- Pacific Northwest Native Americans + BEWD doesn't make sense to me... though you could pull it off if you had a background. Which you don't. Add a background, so the visuals are decent. The same OCGSP corrections apply here as in "Balance of the Dragon Lords".

 

"Seto Kaiba-Dragon Master" -- *cries*. OVERpowered. It's a 1-tribute monster that gives you THREE free draws PLUS "Exodius"-style shuffling of monster back into your Deck (but without the whole 0 ATK thing).

So let's change that effect. First of all, either this card should make you lose during your next End Phase, or you need to remove 80% of this card's effect. Take off the 3-card-draw thing (easily the most overpowered, a 3-card advantage is WAYYY bad), as well as the Graveyard-shuffling thing. THEN tone down the summoning effect. Seeing as Kaiba is more of a BEWD guy than a Dragon-type monsters guy, change his ability to something more of: 'Once per turn, instead of conducting a Normal Summon, you may Special Summon 1 "Blue-Eyes White Dragon" from your hand."

At that point, you'll NOW have a balanced card. Anything more than that, and this card will shift to the BANNED side again.

OCGSP I'll fix after you've polished the effect.

And as for visuals... well, your picture looks like it was put through a garbage compactor. Crop it. And the name needs a space on the sides of the hyphen. (So: "Seto Kaiba - Dragon Master"... and he's not really a Dragon Master anyway...)

It's bad, but fixable...

 

"Supreme Dragon Backlash" -- OP. OP. OP. OP.... annnd OP. Your opponent destroys BEWD, and you can use this card to bring him back.... ALONG WITH ANOTHER CARD. "Call of the Haunted" brings a monster back, and it stays on the field (making the card doubly vulnerable). "Rope of Life" does the same thing with a +800 ATK boost, but it requires you to discard your entire hand. THIS GUY is the equivalent of "Rope of Life" + awesome - any detriment.... which makes him OVERPOWERED. Congrats. I recommend changing the effect up completely. Seeing as it's "Dragon Backlash", I'd do something that actually lashes back. Like dealing burn damage. Or destroying a monster... and change that picture. It's from Naruto (I believe) and it's horrid to boot.

 

"Blue Eyes Toy Dragon" -- ehhhh... free summon? Don't like it. Bad idea. You summon "Luster Dragon" and BOOM get a 3000 ATK monster on the field for monster-destroying aggro (yes, I know he doesn't deal damage, but he's strong enough to crush any monster in his way). Plus, you could get a Special Summon out ("Masked Dragon" or something of the like), summon "Toy", and then tribute off for BEWD himself... sooo I'm apprehensive. But it's not overpowered compared to today's metagame... maybe semi-limited.

 

"Blue Eyes White Magician Girl" -- AHAHAHA OVERPOWERED!!!! You can substitute for BEWD, and summon this card with very limited dead-drawing (or you could substitute for "Dark Magician Girl", but you'll probably have removed your BEWDs with "Dragon's Mirror" anyway..). Then this card probably has +300 to +600 ATK by the time it's summoned (3500-3800 ATK), and it'll deal some heavy damage. Too easy to summon + too strong. Needs a detriment.

 

"Blue Eyes White Roar" -- Good idea. I like it :D. But the OCGSP is bad. Here's a reworked version:

'Tribute 1 face-up "Blue-Eyes White Dragon" you control. Destroy all face-up Attack Position monsters on your opponent's side of the field with less ATK than the tributed monster.'

 

there you go! That was a lot of work....

 

Warm Regards,

:mrgreen:

[/quote']

First off, I would like to thank you for the bump and actually going into detail about the cards. Noone seems to want to do that when they review, and I appreciate it. So, let's begin the talks:

 

Balance of the Dragon Lords: REBD is in fact meeting a BEWD, not a "Frost Dragon from D&D". You can tell when you look at the body and the spikes on the sides of its mouth. I will try to work on the grammar, I didn't realize BEWD had a "-" in its name. Sorry.

 

Mark of the Great Dragon: What does "Pacific Northwest Native Americans" have to do with the card? Its just a mark, could be made by anyone. The reason I didn't even try for a background is so the mark could be seen in all its glory.

 

Seto Kaiba-Dragon Master: OK, I'll admit that his effect does make him a bit unhinged for gameplay. Now, that being said, I think completely taking him down is a bit extreme. First off, making you lose during your next turn tips the card from balanced to just plain gamble-like. Were I to put that effect, all my opponent has to do is have a Winged Kuriboh on the field or a Threatening Roar to survive a turn and they win. It might be just me, but that makes this card not worth it. Second, this is what I hate about actual gameplay. Any advantage whatsoever and a card is considered ban-worthy. I'll reduce the draw to 2 but it has to give you something. Third, how about this: I take out the Special Summon any dragon from your hand effect and replace it with an effect like "As long as this card is on the field, you can Normal Summon "Blue-Eyes White Dragon" without tribute." Sound good? Fourth, the "every Dragon-Type monster in your Graveyard" shuffling thing, I'll admit, is a bit much. I'll work on that. Fifth, would you mind going into a little detail on why you think the pic needs cropping? Sixth, I didn't even think about the hyphen. Thanks. By the way, Seto Kaiba is a "Dragon Master". In the course of the Anime, he has used 13 different Dragon-Type monsters, including the BEWD. He's not just about Blue-Eyes.

 

Supreme Dragon Backlash: Yes, you might think its overpowered. I was actually thinking about drawing back the power a little bit. The "Backlash" part is the entire point. Its a "You killed 1, now you have to deal with more." kind of thing. And yes, the pic is from Naruto.

 

Blue Eyes Toy Dragon: Let's get the biggest error out of the way. This card does not summon itself. The Special Summoning part of its effect only means that you can only use an effect like Monster Reborn or King Dragun to summon it if you control a normal Dragon. That combined with its "No Damage" effect is why I put it at level 6. Maybe Level 7 and a slight ATK downgrade will help it.

 

Blue Eyes White Magician Girl: Does everything really need a big detriment? The highest ATK you could get it is 5000 ATK, and that is only if you put 3 of each BEWD and DM in your Graveyard. What would you consider a detriment big enough to "balance" this card?

 

Blue Eyes White Roar: Thanks for the updated OCG, I'll change it.

 

Well, that's about it I think. I have a lot of changes to make so I will get to it. Thanks for the review, again.

 

It's a pleasure. However, responses:

 

"Balance of the Dragon Lords" -- That's obviously some kind of Frost Dragon. BEWD doesn't have the turtle shell-style hole to stick its neck in (this guy looks like he could hide inside his body. BEWD isn't made to do that). Plus BEWD fires bursts of light, not clouds of frost (the dead-giveaway).

 

"Mark of the Great Dragon" -- If you're making a realistic card, give it a realistic picture. It needs a background.

 

"Seto Kaiba - Dragon Master" -- My suggestions don't intone that you give up a turn. You can just summon BEWD for free if you don't want to Normal Summon that turn (hmmm... "Luster Dragon" or "Blue-Eyes White Dragon"? Which will I summon?). It's an excellent and balanced tradeoff. And as for this criticism of "actual gameplay"... well, I think you're quite wrong. I consider every single "Blackwing" and "Lightsworn" to be excellent where it is on the limitations list -- they're perfectly fine. However, something that gives excessive advantage (Like "Makyura" or "Cyber Jar") should definitely banned. Your card gives 2 excessive advantages (the 3-card draw advantage AND the re-shuffling of cards into the deck) WITHOUT drawbacks, which is why it would be banned. So get rid of the drawing, or limit it to 1 card (that'd easily qualify this guy as semi-limited), and the re-shuffling needs to go.

 

And the picture needs cropping because Kaiba looks short and squat instead of tall and slender, as all main villians should be. You need to take a bit off of the top and/or bottom so he looks a little less squashed.

 

"Supreme Dragon Backlash" -- If that's the idea, then you need a detriment. Like discarding your entire hand and paying 2000 Life Points. You could make the cost less (only discarding your entire hand) by changing the second monster to a lvl 4 or lower Normal Dragon-Type monster (like "Luster Dragon"). Or you could go for the continuous trap-style thing... make this guy continuous, and if either of the summoned monsters is destroyed (OR of the Trap Card is destroyed), the remaining 2 are sent to the Graveyard. That would be nice, and you could change the detriment to a 2-3 card discard. As for the Naruto pic, please refer to Jazin Kay's signature.

 

"BETD" -- Then you haven't phrased this card correctly and it is also useless. I liked my interpretation better, because it actually gives the card value (if I had pulled out "King Dragun", it probably means the duel is well undeway, which means I've been stocking a BEWD for a little while now, and would rather summon that than waste my time with a monster that doesn't deal Battle Damage.). You could knock this guy down to "Dark Magician" stats, and then give him the power to be special summoned from your hand when you control a Normal Dragon-type monster... also, for balance, I'd prevent him from declaring an attack during your first Battle Phase.

 

"BEWMG" -- Everything YOU make, yes. The problem is the fact that you can summon her so easily and that she STARTS OFF with 3200. I could care less about the stat gain; it's not very important. I recommend adding a first bit that says "A fusion summon of this card can only be performed with the above Fusion Material Monsters." That'll balance it nicely.

 

"BEWR" -- No prob.

 

There you go! :mrgreen:

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Here are my updated cards. Leturn Master, I'm getting tired of arguing. Its a freaking BEWD and if you can't see it, then oh well, doesn't impact my cards. All the cards are now balanced are they would be in the REAL game. So there. By the way, just for future reference, Leturn, Blue-Eyes shoots lightning, not light. Just so you know.

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I want to like these cards, but their descriptions steer me away. Some pictures are terrible while some effects are OP'ed. Blue-Eyes Diamond Dragon lost ATK through a fusion summon of 2 powerful dragons? These need work, but with a little bit of practicality, you can pull these off. 5/10.

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I want to like these cards' date=' but their descriptions steer me away. Some pictures are terrible while some effects are OP'ed. Blue-Eyes Diamond Dragon lost ATK through a fusion summon of 2 powerful dragons? These need work, but with a little bit of practicality, you can pull these off. 5/10.

[/quote']BEDD has less ATK than BEWD is because it had to balance being between Hyozanryu's lower ATK and Blue-Eyes' high ATK.

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Ehm....this set can beat a whole Deck with little trouble.....

Mark of the Dragons= + 1-3 Blue Eyes(Depending on how many cards you have) then any other cards from the set to Summon a Blue-Eyes for free. ( I m a NEVER doing that Fusion Summon). And if they get destroyed, BOOM, I have 2 more Dragons......

 

4/10

These are unbalanced the way they are.

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