Mindscatter Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 [spoiler=Lore]This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card can only be Special Summoned without Tributing. This card is unaffected by the effects of cards your opponent controls. This card cannot be destroyed by battle. During the End Phase of the turn this card is Special Summoned, you lose the Game. Control of this card cannot switch. And the coolest part is that these cards taken separately are actually underpowered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabapavich Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 that's really broken! one rep for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nishi-chan Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 Shouldn't it be 2012 >_> just saying...And yes, it's broken[/obvious] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie17 Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 too risky, even if you play this combo together. use a magic removal card to get rid of 2013, its over. but i like these risky type cards, i came up with the a similar concept with Choose Your Deck Master. 8/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindscatter Posted November 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 too risky' date=' even if you play this combo together. use a magic removal card to get rid of 2013, its over. but i like these risky type cards, i came up with the a similar concept with Choose Your Deck Master. 8/10[/quote'] That's actually the cool part. If you avoid destruction in the turn Raider is summoned, then your opponent getting rid of 2013 will get him no benefit. It's just like a Spirit monster that after surviving one End Phase on the field keeps doing that on his own...Shouldn't it be 2012 >_> just saying...And yes' date=' it's broken[/obvious'] *facepalm* The raider is Apocalypse, dude! Getting to 2013 means surviving the apocalypse (which is in 2012), don't you get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie17 Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 too risky' date=' even if you play this combo together. use a magic removal card to get rid of 2013, its over. but i like these risky type cards, i came up with the a similar concept with Choose Your Deck Master. 8/10[/quote'] That's actually the cool part. If you avoid destruction in the turn Raider is summoned, then your opponent getting rid of 2013 will get him no benefit. It's just like a Spirit monster that after surviving one End Phase on the field keeps doing that on his own... Ah well then its broken and not nearly as risky as the Deck Master concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spenstar Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 Sweetness! 2013 kills Exodia and destiny board by itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindscatter Posted November 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 Sweetness! 2013 kills Exodia and destiny board by itself. Since when did Exodia become meta???? too risky' date=' even if you play this combo together. use a magic removal card to get rid of 2013, its over. but i like these risky type cards, i came up with the a similar concept with Choose Your Deck Master. 8/10[/quote'] That's actually the cool part. If you avoid destruction in the turn Raider is summoned, then your opponent getting rid of 2013 will get him no benefit. It's just like a Spirit monster that after surviving one End Phase on the field keeps doing that on his own... Ah well then its broken and not nearly as risky as the Deck Master concept. Read the title, dude. That's the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spenstar Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 I'm just saying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindscatter Posted November 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 ok ok any more opinions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabapavich Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 how bout you can make raider attack directly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindscatter Posted November 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 how bout you can make raider attack directly? cmon now I want this to get Limited after 1 week, not Illegal before being released! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eury Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 No. This is the Realistic Section. This card is not Realistic. Put it in Any Other Cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spenstar Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 Give him a soul patch! XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindscatter Posted November 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 No. This is the Realistic Section. This card is not Realistic. Put it in Any Other Cards. Frankly, they are. There are many cards that are naturally underpowered but get broken in combinations in real YGO. I don't see my cards having fake types, crappy anything, unrealistic separate effects or things like that. Really now, the first card is just an OTK support that kills you if you screw up. The second card is just an Exodia anti-support. If they get broken if together - well that's none of my business. Also, as I said, Raider would get Limited anyway, and who would put 3 2013 in it's deck, knowing that it helps 1 card and 1 card only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Supreme Gamesmaster Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 The new Elma-RML. 2013 would be banned very, very quickly, just so you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindscatter Posted November 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 The new Elma-RML. 2013 would be banned very' date=' very quickly, just so you know.[/quote'] Simple question: why? It is certainly underpowered. I mean, there is a lot of spell removal around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie17 Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 The new Elma-RML. 2013 would be banned very' date=' very quickly, just so you know.[/quote'] Simple question: why? It is certainly underpowered. I mean, there is a lot of spell removal around. I think initially both cards would be treated as Limited, 1 per deck. But eventually 1 or the other would become Forbidden. Most likely 2013. Also 2013 is not underpowered. It redefines the duel, so that in of itself makes it overwhelming (much like a Jar card) and at the very least cause your opponent or yourself to waste a Magic Removal card to get rid of the effect. I like the combo but its only acceptable in Traditional Format and Not in today's Advanced Format meta's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 Or make a card like magic/trap swap.Make it have the same effects as creature swap but for a spell/trap card. Than give your opponent 2013, and BAM, OTK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Skull Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 O.oAlso 2013 is too bland...8/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eury Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 No. This is the Realistic Section. This card is not Realistic. Put it in Any Other Cards. Frankly' date=' they are. There are many cards that are naturally underpowered but get broken in combinations in real YGO. I don't see my cards having fake types, crappy anything, unrealistic separate effects or things like that. Really now, the first card is just an OTK support that kills you if you screw up. The second card is just an Exodia anti-support. If they get broken if together - well that's none of my business. Also, as I said, Raider would get Limited anyway, and who would put 3 2013 in it's deck, knowing that it helps 1 card and 1 card only?[/quote'] If you Creature Swap Raider, your opponent auto loses. = Broken.2013 prevents losing due to a card effect. Thus, if I were to activate JD and you had less than 3000 Life Points, I could not win because you would have lost due to an effect. = Broken. Like I said before, Any Other Cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindscatter Posted November 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 O.oAlso 2013 is too bland...8/10 Do you really think that kind of card needs a second effect? It's just like Destiny Draw - all in the name... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leturn Master Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 No. This is the Realistic Section. This card is not Realistic. Put it in Any Other Cards. Frankly' date=' they are. There are many cards that are naturally underpowered but get broken in combinations in real YGO. I don't see my cards having fake types, crappy anything, unrealistic separate effects or things like that. Really now, the first card is just an OTK support that kills you if you screw up. The second card is just an Exodia anti-support. If they get broken if together - well that's none of my business. Also, as I said, Raider would get Limited anyway, and who would put 3 2013 in it's deck, knowing that it helps 1 card and 1 card only?[/quote'] If you Creature Swap Raider, your opponent auto loses. = Broken.2013 prevents losing due to a card effect. Thus, if I were to activate JD and you had less than 3000 Life Points, I could not win because you would have lost due to an effect. = Broken. Like I said before, Any Other Cards. Yes, "2013" definitely locks down on more than a few cards... Mr. Apocalypse is cool, though. Reminds me of "Wicked-Worm Beast"... which makes me think of an awesome idea for a fan-fic of some strange and twisted variety... Warm Regards,:mrgreen: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 not bad for 2013, prevents Exodia and Destiny Board from working now it's still on the bland side though, I'd give it another effect Raider of the Apocalypse when combined with this will make it very OPed, so give Raider more drawbacks 5/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindscatter Posted November 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 No. This is the Realistic Section. This card is not Realistic. Put it in Any Other Cards. Frankly' date=' they are. There are many cards that are naturally underpowered but get broken in combinations in real YGO. I don't see my cards having fake types, crappy anything, unrealistic separate effects or things like that. Really now, the first card is just an OTK support that kills you if you screw up. The second card is just an Exodia anti-support. If they get broken if together - well that's none of my business. Also, as I said, Raider would get Limited anyway, and who would put 3 2013 in it's deck, knowing that it helps 1 card and 1 card only?[/quote'] If you Creature Swap Raider, your opponent auto loses. = Broken.2013 prevents losing due to a card effect. Thus, if I were to activate JD and you had less than 3000 Life Points, I could not win because you would have lost due to an effect. = Broken. Like I said before, Any Other Cards. Ow, sorry, did not observe that. Ok, changes made. happy now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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