Dark Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 But the title is just a suggestion. I'm not sure if this was made, but I browsed the first page of General (read: titles only), and I didn't find anything. So Obama is sending like 30,000+ troops to Iraq. He stated that we could not pull our troops out without "winning" the war, so to speak. Discuss this action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Peace Prize winners believe in sending a larger fighting force to solve problems.Well ain't our world perfect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revan Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Lolhypocrisy.Dumb idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitty Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 So Obama is sending like 30,000+ troops to Iraq. He stated that we could not pull our troops out without "winning" the war, so to speak. Simple Obama is an idiot. Seriously. What is there left to win over there? Personally I think it was a moronic move that will probably drop his popularity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yasu Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Just use General =PAlso lol at Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushfire Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 what is this i don't even... Yeah, idiotic move. However, we still haven't taken out the terrorists there so maybe it isn't such a bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted December 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Lolhypocrisy.Dumb idea.So Obama is sending like 30' date='000+ troops to Iraq. He stated that we could not pull our troops out without "winning" the war, so to speak.[/i'] Simple Obama is an idiot. Seriously. What is there left to win over there? Personally I think it was a moronic move that will probably drop his popularity. What I seriously hate is when idiots come into a thread, and simply kill the thought of a somewhat intelligent conversation. I understand that Obama made a bad move. A three-year-old can tell me that. Assuming you are not a three-year-old, you should be doing more. Reflect on what his action might cause. Talk about how you would have done it differently. Instead of just saying "He is stupid, bad move." Personally, I don't think there was another way out except sending more troops. Should we pull out troops from Iraq, I think another 9/11 attack (assuming 9/11 wasn't planned by our govt., which I believe it was) would be in order. If we leave our troops there without sending any more, they are going to die. I may be wrong about there being no other way out, so comment on that. I shouldn't be moderating this whole discussion. You guys aren't idiots, or so I would hope. [/post] + [/rant] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushfire Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 You ignored my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted December 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 I was posting at the same time as you and FM6. what is this i don't even... Yeah' date=' idiotic move. However, we still haven't taken out the terrorists there so maybe it isn't such a bad idea.[/quote'] We aren't even sure if the terrorists caused the attack on us. I don't understand why America cares if the people in Iraq kill each other. Which is why I assert the opinion that 9/11 was internally planned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revan Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Extended response:This is probably Obama's worst career move yet.First, he received a Nobel Peace award. Sending more troops to fight a worthless war isn't peaceSecond, Didn't Obama's whole campaign revolve around ending the wars, and limiting deaths? Anyone who was still on his side might have to think twice about supporting him. Two-Faced Presidents like him are what make me an Anarchist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushfire Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Regardless, while they believe that it were those terrorists then it makes sense. Plus, the U.N. agrees to this because they wish for Iraq to be free and join the U.N. at some point, so we have to kill the terrorists and make sure a Democracy (or a stable government) becomes in charge there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitty Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 I was posting at the same time as you and FM6. what is this i don't even... Yeah' date=' idiotic move. However, we still haven't taken out the terrorists there so maybe it isn't such a bad idea.[/quote'] We aren't even sure if the terrorists caused the attack on us. I don't understand why America cares if the people in Iraq kill each other. Which is why I assert the opinion that 9/11 was internally planned. I say we just Nuke Afghanistan and Iraq. Pull our troops out and nuke them. We'll kill all our enemies and allow them to start over fresh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revan Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Princess Kitty, That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.We'd kill countless civilians to take out some terrorists. We'd leave the land devastated, completely unlivable.There'd be no fresh start.What we'd leave behind is a radioactive wasteland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted December 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Extended response:This is probably Obama's worst career move yet.First' date=' he received a Nobel [u']Peace[/u] award. Sending more troops to fight a worthless war isn't peaceSecond, Didn't Obama's whole campaign revolve around ending the wars, and limiting deaths? Anyone who was still on his side might have to think twice about supporting him. Two-Faced Presidents like him are what make me an Anarchist. I understand that he won a Nobel Peace Prize, but don't you think he is indirectly promoting peace by trying to end this war? We aren't trying to do what's stated in Princess Kitty's post. Regardless' date=' while they believe that it were those terrorists then it makes sense. Plus, the U.N. agrees to this because they wish for Iraq to be free and join the U.N. at some point, so we have to kill the terrorists and make sure a Democracy (or a stable government) becomes in charge there.[/quote'] Any reason why we want Iraq to join the UN? It doesn't make sense. We started a war (because of WoMD), and it ended up turning into a goal for changing government in another country. I was posting at the same time as you and FM6. what is this i don't even... Yeah' date=' idiotic move. However, we still haven't taken out the terrorists there so maybe it isn't such a bad idea.[/quote'] We aren't even sure if the terrorists caused the attack on us. I don't understand why America cares if the people in Iraq kill each other. Which is why I assert the opinion that 9/11 was internally planned. I say we just Nuke Afghanistan and Iraq. Pull our troops out and nuke them. We'll kill all our enemies and allow them to start over fresh. ... You need to learn something about anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revan Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Promoting peace by sacrificing the lives of even more of our soldiers, most of them fresh with a whole life ahead of them?We're not going to find the terrorists by fighting this war longer. We're not going to eliminated them by fighting longer.The more fighting, the more support they get, the more recruits they get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted December 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Promoting peace by sacrificing the lives of even more of our soldiers' date=' most of them fresh with a whole life ahead of them?We're not going to find the terrorists by fighting this war longer. We're not going to eliminated them by fighting longer.The more fighting, the more support they get, the more recruits they get.[/quote'] Alright, I understand what you are talking about. Trust me, I really do. I may be a selfish bastard, but I don't see how it's fair for other people to die in a war that may not affect any of our lives. But tell me this: if we back out of the war, don't you think there will be consequences? Assuming 9/11 wasn't government planned, it was caused by spiteful taste against America for leaving their country in tatters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntar! Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 RAWR WE NEED 2 WIN DA WAR SEND 2,000,000 MEN OVER DAR OR JUST NUKE DEM AFGANI'S [/american pov] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eury Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 What I don't understand is that it's Afghanistan vs America, Canada, Germany, France, and pretty much every other country in Europe. Why the fvck haven't we won yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted December 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 RAWR WE NEED 2 WIN DA WAR SEND 2' date='000,000 MEN OVER DAR OR JUST NUKE DEM AFGANI'S [/american pov'] Maybe Princess Kitty and other people from dem Texus think like that, but the majority are smarter than that. Or so I would hope. What I don't understand is that it's Afghanistan vs America' date=' Canada, Germany, France, and pretty much every other country in Europe. Why the fvck haven't we won yet?[/quote'] Because we aren't trying to destroy the whole country. Like brushfire said, we are trying to establish a stable govt. Why, I have no damn clue. But we cannot do that as long as the Taliban is "active", for lack of a better term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitty Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 RAWR WE NEED 2 WIN DA WAR SEND 2' date='000,000 MEN OVER DAR OR JUST NUKE DEM AFGANI'S [/american pov'] Maybe Princess Kitty and other people from dem Texus think like that, but the majority are smarter than that. Or so I would hope. Not From Texas Bish, try alittle more Eastward. What I don't understand is that it's Afghanistan vs America' date=' Canada, Germany, France, and pretty much every other country in Europe. Why the fvck haven't we won yet?[/quote'] Because we aren't trying to destroy the whole country. Like brushfire said, we are trying to establish a stable govt. Why, I have no damn clue. But we cannot do that as long as the Taliban is "active", for lack of a better term. Leave it to the US to try and give every country a government like ours. I say let them work it out for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted December 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 I wasn't saying you were from Texas. I was making a reference that you were like the people in Texus. Leave it to the US to try and give every country a government like ours. Smartest thing you've said in this whole thread. Again, this is why I don't approve of this war AT ALL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitty Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 I wasn't saying you were from Texas. I was making a reference that you were like the people in Texus.ha. I'm not that stupidLeave it to the US to try and give every country a government like ours. Smartest thing you've said in this whole thread. Again' date=' this is why I don't approve of this war AT ALL.[/quote'] The war I don't care about, but they're doing it all wrong. A good plan of what we should do. If we can find the Taliban, or the majority of them anyway, and get them to take cover in a remote building, then we could make sure the citizens are out of the way over there first then after they take cover in the remote building we bomb the building and kill any survivors. It sounds harsh and out of the way but if you really think about it, it's kind of a solid idea. We wipe them out and no one gets hurt and no more of our Marines are killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revan Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 By bomb, I hope you don't still mean nuke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitty Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 By bomb' date=' I hope you don't still mean nuke.[/quote'] No, I don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revan Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 There's too many sects of the Taliban to do that, anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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