Evolution is a fact, same as gravity.

[Shrekstasy]

 

I read a few exerpts from this. I'm Christian and I think it is silly.

[Tentacruel]

 

I read a few excerpts from this. I'm Christian and I think it is silly.

Wow... Looks, educational?

[Willieh]

After reading through this thread, I've decided you all need to read a good Zen story.

 

"Yamaoka Tesshu, as a young student of Zen, visited one master after another. He called upon Dokuon of Shokoku.

 

Desiring to show his attainment, he said: “The mind, Buddha, and sentient beings, after all, do not exist. The true nature of phenomena is emptiness. There is no realization, no delusion, no sage, no mediocrity. There is no giving and nothing to be received.”

 

Dokuon, who was smoking quietly, said nothing. Suddenly he whacked Yamaoka with his bamboo pipe. This made the youth quite angry.

 

“If nothing exists,” inquired Dokuon, “where did this anger come from?”

[Guest Chaos Pudding]

There is a difference. Gravity you can test whenever you want. We have no absolute proof that evolution is real' date=' because it is bulls**t

[/quote']

 

Get out of my thread if you can't be helped to read any of the posts.

[Tentacruel]

After reading through this thread' date=' I've decided you all need to read a good Zen story.

 

[i']"Yamaoka Tesshu, as a young student of Zen, visited one master after another. He called upon Dokuon of Shokoku.

 

Desiring to show his attainment, he said: “The mind, Buddha, and sentient beings, after all, do not exist. The true nature of phenomena is emptiness. There is no realization, no delusion, no sage, no mediocrity. There is no giving and nothing to be received.”

 

Dokuon, who was smoking quietly, said nothing. Suddenly he whacked Yamaoka with his bamboo pipe. This made the youth quite angry.

 

“If nothing exists,” inquired Dokuon, “where did this anger come from?”[/i]

 

Cool story.

 

We actually pretty much know the Origin of Life on this planet now' date=' I've watch documentaries on it. Overall there are three main theories on the Origin of Life. The first is complete bullsh*t, it's religion, the idea that Life was created by a/many supernatural being(s). The second and third are both very plausible scientific corresponding theories, the second being that due to this critical point in time of the forming of Earth's atmosphere that chemicals, in order to gain their full outer shell of electrons unexpectedly reacted with different chemicals causing certain chemicals to be the result. These chemicals, we are unsure of however nearing finding out all about them, these chemicals produced specific differentiating proteins necessary to remain constant. This was the start of life, and, knowing the theory of Evolution itself, you should know that these chemicals and proteins led to DNA and chromosomes etc. thus being able to mutate, thus being able to evolve, from this point on, Life could flourish on Earth.

[/quote']

 

So, let me get this strait, when someone calls evolution bullsh*t, then its "get out of my thread" but its totally fine to call religion bullsh*t? And about your "plausible theory." Where did those chemicals come from?

 

Evolution is a fact' date=' it can be observed, tested, etc. Evolution as a theory though is something entirely different. even by the definition of theory, there is not as high a probability of the explanation of evolution being correct as the existence of evolution itself. Evolution, as a fact, exists. But the theory of how species slowly change into new species, which has thus far not been wholly observed, has to be taken on a modicum of faith. Now, I for one believe that the theory of evolution is true, but there are some who don't. I believe also that the attempt to prove the theory of evolution entirely true is a very important undertaking, just as the attempts by other logical people to attack it is. It is imperative within science that we continue to question old ideas, that we improve upon what has been theorized already. The theory of evolution, just as that of gravity, is something that may one day be proven true, may one day be proven not, but until then, something that each individual must make their own opinion about, and something that scientists must continue to question.

[/quote']

This is one of the few intelligent posts I have seen on here.

[Guest Chaos Pudding]

We actually pretty much know the Origin of Life on this planet now' date=' I've watch documentaries on it. Overall there are three main theories on the Origin of Life. The first is complete bullsh*t, it's religion, the idea that Life was created by a/many supernatural being(s). The second and third are both very plausible scientific corresponding theories, the second being that due to this critical point in time of the forming of Earth's atmosphere that chemicals, in order to gain their full outer shell of electrons unexpectedly reacted with different chemicals causing certain chemicals to be the result. These chemicals, we are unsure of however nearing finding out all about them, these chemicals produced specific differentiating proteins necessary to remain constant. This was the start of life, and, knowing the theory of Evolution itself, you should know that these chemicals and proteins led to DNA and chromosomes etc. thus being able to mutate, thus being able to evolve, from this point on, Life could flourish on Earth.

[/quote']

 

So, let me get this strait, when someone calls evolution bullsh*t, then its "get out of my thread" but its totally fine to call religion bullsh*t? And about your "plausible theory." Where did those chemicals come from?

 

Bullsh*t was a harsh word to use, but in scientific terms, there's no evidence to support such a theory.

 

As for where the chemicals came from: are you familiar with the Miller experiment? It involved heating water, allowing the water vapor to interact with what we think the early atmosphere was like, then sparking it with electricity to simulate lightning. The results were a plethora of organic compounds. Later refinements showed that even more complex compounds were able to be synthesized.

[Tentacruel]

As for where the chemicals came from: are you familiar with the Miller experiment? It involved heating water' date=' allowing the water vapor to interact with what we think the early atmosphere was like, then sparking it with electricity to simulate lightning. The results were a plethora of organic compounds. Later refinements showed that even more complex compounds were able to be synthesized.

[/quote']

So it was caused by water? Where did the water come from? (Yes, I know I'm being a bit of a smartass)

[Guest Chaos Pudding]

As for where the chemicals came from: are you familiar with the Miller experiment? It involved heating water' date=' allowing the water vapor to interact with what we think the early atmosphere was like, then sparking it with electricity to simulate lightning. The results were a plethora of organic compounds. Later refinements showed that even more complex compounds were able to be synthesized.

[/quote']

So it was caused by water? Where did the water come from? (Yes, I know I'm being a bit of a smartass)

 

Bombardments from asteroids and/or comets is the current theory. You can read more about it here: http://astrobiology.nasa.gov/ask-an-astrobiologist/question/?id=56

[Mindscatter]

There is a difference. Gravity you can test whenever you want. We have no absolute proof that evolution is real' date=' because it is bulls**t

[/quote']

 

Get out of my thread if you can't be helped to read any of the posts.

It is not YOUR thread just because you posted it. But, yes, the guy is an as*hole.

As for where the chemicals came from: are you familiar with the Miller experiment? It involved heating water' date=' allowing the water vapor to interact with what we think the early atmosphere was like, then sparking it with electricity to simulate lightning. The results were a plethora of organic compounds. Later refinements showed that even more complex compounds were able to be synthesized.

[/quote']

So it was caused by water? Where did the water come from? (Yes, I know I'm being a bit of a smartass)

Lame defense dude.

[Guest Chaos Pudding]

There is a difference. Gravity you can test whenever you want. We have no absolute proof that evolution is real' date=' because it is bulls**t

[/quote']

 

Get out of my thread if you can't be helped to read any of the posts.

It is not YOUR thread just because you posted it. But, yes, the guy is an as*hole.

As for where the chemicals came from: are you familiar with the Miller experiment? It involved heating water' date=' allowing the water vapor to interact with what we think the early atmosphere was like, then sparking it with electricity to simulate lightning. The results were a plethora of organic compounds. Later refinements showed that even more complex compounds were able to be synthesized.

[/quote']

So it was caused by water? Where did the water come from? (Yes, I know I'm being a bit of a smartass)

Lame defense dude.

 

How is it not my thread if I posted it?

[Mindscatter]

After reading through this thread' date=' I've decided you all need to read a good Zen story.

 

[i']"Yamaoka Tesshu, as a young student of Zen, visited one master after another. He called upon Dokuon of Shokoku.

 

Desiring to show his attainment, he said: “The mind, Buddha, and sentient beings, after all, do not exist. The true nature of phenomena is emptiness. There is no realization, no delusion, no sage, no mediocrity. There is no giving and nothing to be received.”

 

Dokuon, who was smoking quietly, said nothing. Suddenly he whacked Yamaoka with his bamboo pipe. This made the youth quite angry.

 

“If nothing exists,” inquired Dokuon, “where did this anger come from?”[/i]

 

Currently, there are 3 worldwide variations of Zen stories:

 

1. The student is slightly on the heretic/atheistic side and his master gives him aggressive arguments that make little sense.

2. The student is blindly servant to his master that always says, in one form or another, "you suck".

3. The master dies and the student must avenge his death.

---

There is a difference. Gravity you can test whenever you want. We have no absolute proof that evolution is real' date=' because it is bulls**t

[/quote']

 

Get out of my thread if you can't be helped to read any of the posts.

It is not YOUR thread just because you posted it. But, yes, the guy is an as*hole.

As for where the chemicals came from: are you familiar with the Miller experiment? It involved heating water' date=' allowing the water vapor to interact with what we think the early atmosphere was like, then sparking it with electricity to simulate lightning. The results were a plethora of organic compounds. Later refinements showed that even more complex compounds were able to be synthesized.

[/quote']

So it was caused by water? Where did the water come from? (Yes, I know I'm being a bit of a smartass)

Lame defense dude.

 

How is it not my thread if I posted it?

 

Because this is a public forum, dude. We own nothing but our post cout, signature, avatar and rep count. (we also own art posted here, but only if we claim copyright in advance)

[Guest Chaos Pudding]

After reading through this thread' date=' I've decided you all need to read a good Zen story.

 

[i']"Yamaoka Tesshu, as a young student of Zen, visited one master after another. He called upon Dokuon of Shokoku.

 

Desiring to show his attainment, he said: “The mind, Buddha, and sentient beings, after all, do not exist. The true nature of phenomena is emptiness. There is no realization, no delusion, no sage, no mediocrity. There is no giving and nothing to be received.”

 

Dokuon, who was smoking quietly, said nothing. Suddenly he whacked Yamaoka with his bamboo pipe. This made the youth quite angry.

 

“If nothing exists,” inquired Dokuon, “where did this anger come from?”[/i]

 

Currently, there are 3 worldwide variations of Zen stories:

 

1. The student is slightly on the heretic/atheistic side and his master gives him aggressive arguments that make little sense.

2. The student is blindly servant to his master that always says, in one form or another, "you suck".

3. The master dies and the student must avenge his death.

---

There is a difference. Gravity you can test whenever you want. We have no absolute proof that evolution is real' date=' because it is bulls**t

[/quote']

 

Get out of my thread if you can't be helped to read any of the posts.

It is not YOUR thread just because you posted it. But, yes, the guy is an as*hole.

As for where the chemicals came from: are you familiar with the Miller experiment? It involved heating water' date=' allowing the water vapor to interact with what we think the early atmosphere was like, then sparking it with electricity to simulate lightning. The results were a plethora of organic compounds. Later refinements showed that even more complex compounds were able to be synthesized.

[/quote']

So it was caused by water? Where did the water come from? (Yes, I know I'm being a bit of a smartass)

Lame defense dude.

 

How is it not my thread if I posted it?

 

Because this is a public forum, dude. We own nothing but our post cout, signature, avatar and rep count. (we also own art posted here, but only if we claim copyright in advance)

 

I disagree. We own what we post, even if it's on a public forum. Try and plagiarize something found on a forum, and it's the same as plagiarizing a newspaper article/journal entry/ect.

[Mindscatter]

You're taking yourself too seriously with that.

[Guest Chaos Pudding]

You're taking yourself too seriously with that.

 

So I was to assume that you weren't being serious?

[Mindscatter]

That is not what I meant! I meant that you care too much about yourself.

[Guest Chaos Pudding]

That is not what I meant! I meant that you care too much about yourself.

 

? I was merely stating that, in fact, what you post on a public forum is your own.

[Willieh]

After reading through this thread' date=' I've decided you all need to read a good Zen story.

 

[i']"Yamaoka Tesshu, as a young student of Zen, visited one master after another. He called upon Dokuon of Shokoku.

 

Desiring to show his attainment, he said: “The mind, Buddha, and sentient beings, after all, do not exist. The true nature of phenomena is emptiness. There is no realization, no delusion, no sage, no mediocrity. There is no giving and nothing to be received.”

 

Dokuon, who was smoking quietly, said nothing. Suddenly he whacked Yamaoka with his bamboo pipe. This made the youth quite angry.

 

“If nothing exists,” inquired Dokuon, “where did this anger come from?”[/i]

 

Currently, there are 3 worldwide variations of Zen stories:

 

1. The student is slightly on the heretic/atheistic side and his master gives him aggressive arguments that make little sense.

2. The student is blindly servant to his master that always says, in one form or another, "you suck".

3. The master dies and the student must avenge his death.

---

 

Have you ever read Zen stories before?

[Mindscatter]

That is not what I meant! I meant that you care too much about yourself.

 

? I was merely stating that' date=' in fact, what you post on a public forum is your own.

[/quote']

And I was just stating that you care too much about being plagiarized and are kinda bossy about this being your topic.

After reading through this thread' date=' I've decided you all need to read a good Zen story.

 

[i']"Yamaoka Tesshu, as a young student of Zen, visited one master after another. He called upon Dokuon of Shokoku.

 

Desiring to show his attainment, he said: “The mind, Buddha, and sentient beings, after all, do not exist. The true nature of phenomena is emptiness. There is no realization, no delusion, no sage, no mediocrity. There is no giving and nothing to be received.”

 

Dokuon, who was smoking quietly, said nothing. Suddenly he whacked Yamaoka with his bamboo pipe. This made the youth quite angry.

 

“If nothing exists,” inquired Dokuon, “where did this anger come from?”[/i]

 

Currently, there are 3 worldwide variations of Zen stories:

 

1. The student is slightly on the heretic/atheistic side and his master gives him aggressive arguments that make little sense.

2. The student is blindly servant to his master that always says, in one form or another, "you suck".

3. The master dies and the student must avenge his death.

---

 

Have you ever read Zen stories before?

 

Nah, seen films. What's the difference?

[Willieh]

After reading through this thread' date=' I've decided you all need to read a good Zen story.

 

[i']"Yamaoka Tesshu, as a young student of Zen, visited one master after another. He called upon Dokuon of Shokoku.

 

Desiring to show his attainment, he said: “The mind, Buddha, and sentient beings, after all, do not exist. The true nature of phenomena is emptiness. There is no realization, no delusion, no sage, no mediocrity. There is no giving and nothing to be received.”

 

Dokuon, who was smoking quietly, said nothing. Suddenly he whacked Yamaoka with his bamboo pipe. This made the youth quite angry.

 

“If nothing exists,” inquired Dokuon, “where did this anger come from?”[/i]

 

Currently, there are 3 worldwide variations of Zen stories:

 

1. The student is slightly on the heretic/atheistic side and his master gives him aggressive arguments that make little sense.

2. The student is blindly servant to his master that always says, in one form or another, "you suck".

3. The master dies and the student must avenge his death.

---

 

Have you ever read Zen stories before?

 

Nah, seen films. What's the difference?

 

Well Zen stories almost never have anything to do with religion or avengement... And usually the stories with admiring students imply that the Zen master shouldn't be studied.

[Guest Chaos Pudding]

That is not what I meant! I meant that you care too much about yourself.

 

? I was merely stating that' date=' in fact, what you post on a public forum is your own.

[/quote']

And I was just stating that you care too much about being plagiarized and are kinda bossy about this being your topic.

 

Er... what? I think you're reading into my posts a bit too much, friend.

[Mindscatter]

Meh...gotta go...

 

^LOL now that was kinda spam...meh, who cares?