JINZO? Been there done that, say hello to GENZO!!!

[archie17]

LIMITED EDITION Gold Ultra Rare version

 

Inspired by the Haitian's powers from the TV series Heroes.

 

Make, Rate, Debate, Fate... Comment and let me know whatcha think.

[GunMetalDevil]

the pic should be edited to fit but the effects awsome

 

7.8/10 fix pic and ill give a 8.7/10

[Twig]

Wow, that's a pretty annoying effect, but making it 5 star balances it. 8.5/10

[Leturn Master]

Cool, but not useful. Plus he looks like he got squashed by something heavy... with that picture, at least.

 

I wish there were application, but there just isn't. He should be a 4-star with lower ATK, and some detrimental effect. That would make him more useful (of course he CAN be Summoned with "Giant Rat"... which is definitely a sort-of-plus)... maybe make him a Tuner?

[archie17]

I made the image less squished, as far as the effect goes, its fine the way i made it. im not trying to come up with something so complex. he's like a more powerful jinzo in regards to his effect and yet not quite so when it comes to his stats.

[General Assclown]

Pic(s) - 8/10 - I likez it.

Effect(s) - 7.5/10 - Just a monster version of Skill Drain *sighs*

Originality - 7.5/10 - Refer to Effect(s).

 

Overall - 23/30 = 76% = 7.6/10

[archie17]

Pic(s) - 8/10 - I likez it.

Effect(s) - 7.5/10 - Just a monster version of Skill Drain *sighs*

Originality - 7.5/10 - Refer to Effect(s).

 

Overall - 23/30 = 76% = 7.6/10

 

Thanks for the rate, although the effect is a little more than Skill Drain.

 

What this card's effect does that Skill Drain doesn't is changes the "Category-Type" of all monsters on the field that are Effect Monsters to Normal Monsters.

 

Yeah I no its a slight addition to Skill Drain, but that addition could possibly be useful to some cards that can activate an effect from the players hand based on Normal Monsters you have on the field perhaps. Can't really think of a single card at the moment, but I'm just putting it out there that the effect is SLIGHTLY more than what is Skill Drain.

[Jazin Kay]

"Negate the effects of all face-up Monster Cards on the field, excluding this card. All face-up monsters on the field are treated as Normal Monsters, excluding this card."

 

There.

[archie17]

"Negate the effects of all face-up Monster Cards on the field' date=' excluding this card. All face-up monsters on the field are treated as Normal Monsters, excluding this card."

 

There.

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Not necessary, the OCG i used is from:

 

"Superalloy Beast Raptinus" & "The Unfriendly Amazon".

 

So the card is within OCG standards already.

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I'm going to use the same system in which Jecht used.... Just slightly different.

 

Pic(s) - 7.5/10 - The pic just doesn't seem like a realistic form of what a Yugioh Card might actually look like in my opinion.

Effect(s) - 5/10 - Frankly, in my opinion, it has no sense in being a Psychic. Warrior-Type seems more fit for this type of effect, if not, it probably might be Spellcaster-Type. Also, he is right, though the monsters become Normal, there is not much of a difference between this and Skill Drain, as Skill Drain basically means the same.

Originality - 6/10 - Read what I put for Effects. As well, there are already several cards similar to this that have tried to be made, and have still all failed.

 

Overall - 18.5/30 = 62% = 6.2/10

 

You see what I did there. I said I'd make a significant change to his rating system, yet I did nothing but change the responses. In retrospect, I was making an example of your card, to Skill Drain.

[archie17]

I'm going to use the same system in which Jecht used.... Just slightly different.

 

Pic(s) - 7.5/10 - The pic just doesn't seem like a realistic form of what a Yugioh Card might actually look like in my opinion. What does that even mean?

 

Effect(s) - 5/10 - Frankly' date=' in my opinion, it has no sense in being a Psychic. Warrior-Type seems more fit for this type of effect, if not, it probably might be Spellcaster-Type. Also, he is right, though the monsters become Normal, there is not much of a difference between this and Skill Drain, as Skill Drain basically means the same.

[b']I was actually hesitant as to what to classify this, because I know Psychic types are generally are Robotic, Magical, Demon like in appearance. But then I remembered Psychic Emperor and thought Psychic is the most appropriate. The monk is using his Psyche to stop other monsters powers. There no magical aspect to the picture so Spellcaster wouldn't work nor should a Warrior-Type have such an effect either.[/b]

 

Originality - 6/10 - Read what I put for Effects. As well, there are already several cards similar to this that have tried to be made, and have still all failed. What you call a failed attempt I call a good one.

 

Overall - 18.5/30 = 62% = 6.2/10

 

You see what I did there. I said I'd make a significant change to his rating system, yet I did nothing but change the responses. In retrospect, I was making an example of your card, to Skill Drain.

No need for the sarcasm, the card is different from SKill Drain but only slightly, yes jachet pointed out that fact that this is a Monster version of Skill Drain, and I pointed out that makes it slightly different because of the COST. 1000 Life Points for Skill Drain, 1 monster tribute for this card. So yes they are different cards even slightly.

 

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I expected you to give a more valid argument, but if I may start with the picture.....

Psychic Aspects: Light on his head.

Warrior Aspects: Monk. Weapon, more noticably a staff, in his Right hand. Armor, which this clothing would be called in Monk Culture. Beads of the Monk Culture in Left hand.

Spellcaster: Beads represent a magical presence in some Cultures. The light coming from his head can symbolize a magical spell. His staff has a bow, if that is what it may be, tied to it. That is another symbol of magic in some cultures. That is also an aspect to a Warrior-Type, as in the Monk Culture, the bow is a symbol, which I remember as freedom or some sort.

 

Now, let us cover what I meant about the picture not looking like a Yugioh Picture.....

The eyes are very abnormal, as normally they are simply closed in Yugioh Cards, or slightly open as to see the color which symbolizes him. The picture doesn't look animated enough, as it looks more like something that would go up in the wall of a museum.

 

Next, we will cover what you call a good attempt.

How often do you think that Effect Monster's representing Jinzo in a certain way come around. This simply negates Monster Effects, which isn't much hard to come up with, even by our newer members.

 

Now, for the failing of handling criticism which is in all realistic sense: True.

I wasn't being sarcastic. I meant the truth. I hadn't made much changes to the post that Jecht made, except that I had altered his responses into mine, which is what you have done here with Skill Drain. Either way, there is a cost. 1000 Life Points = One Monster. Not much of a 1 point difference, correct? Second, the only change you made to the Skill Drain effect, is that the monsters become Normal Monsters, except for this card here.

 

Care to further argue?

[General Assclown]

"Negate the effects of all face-up Monster Cards on the field' date=' excluding this card. All face-up monsters on the field are treated as Normal Monsters, excluding this card."

 

There.

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It's against the law rules to post nothing but an OCG Fix.

[archie17]

I expected you to give a more valid argument' date=' but if I may start with the picture.....

Psychic Aspects: Light on his head.

Warrior Aspects: Monk. Weapon, more noticably a staff, in his Right hand. Armor, which this clothing would be called in Monk Culture. Beads of the Monk Culture in Left hand.

Spellcaster: Beads represent a magical presence in some Cultures. The light coming from his head can symbolize a magical spell. His staff has a bow, if that is what it may be, tied to it. That is another symbol of magic in some cultures. That is also an aspect to a Warrior-Type, as in the Monk Culture, the bow is a symbol, which I remember as freedom or some sort.

 

[b']Its a Monk, they emphasize the power of the mind and body not magic and war. I've already proven my point with Psychic Emperor. [/b]

 

Now, let us cover what I meant about the picture not looking like a Yugioh Picture.....

The eyes are very abnormal, as normally they are simply closed in Yugioh Cards, or slightly open as to see the color which symbolizes him. The picture doesn't look animated enough, as it looks more like something that would go up in the wall of a museum.

 

That is your opinion, it just sounds like gibberish to me because its a drawing/painting like any others. If your argument is it seems more Magic than Yugi I might think about that for a second, but this happens to be a pic that can falls into either category jut fine in my opinion.

 

Next, we will cover what you call a good attempt.

How often do you think that Effect Monster's representing Jinzo in a certain way come around. This simply negates Monster Effects, which isn't much hard to come up with, even by our newer members.

Granted Jinzo is a blue print effect card to expand on, but I was never intending to make an extensive/new original effect monster. I only intended to make a Monster based on the Haitian character from the TV series Heroes, that's it. His powers happens to correlate with Skill Drain and Jinzo.

 

Now, for the failing of handling criticism which is in all realistic sense: True.

I wasn't being sarcastic. I meant the truth. I hadn't made much changes to the post that Jecht made, except that I had altered his responses into mine, which is what you have done here with Skill Drain. Either way, there is a cost. 1000 Life Points = One Monster. Not much of a 1 point difference, correct? Not correct, Monsters over Life Points or vice-versa can mean different difficulties of getting either Skill Drain or this card to work, it all depends.Second, the only change you made to the Skill Drain effect, is that the monsters become Normal Monsters, except for this card here. Didn't I already mention SLIGHTLY different? (i.e Catergory-Type, Cost)

 

Care to further argue?

Who's arguing?

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If this is based off a certain person from a TV show, then it should be placed in the Pop Culture Cards.

[archie17]

If this is based off a certain person from a TV show' date=' then it should be placed in the Pop Culture Cards.

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Just because the effect is based on something doesn't mean it cannot be used in the REAL game realistically. There is no art from the TV show. The card game is based on the show, so should every card people make in the realistic section go into Pop Culture? No.

[General Assclown]

Also, you are actually admitting that this card's effect is just a cheap rip-off from Skill Drain.

 

Edit: Yes, that theory could work however, this is yugiohcardmaker.net and anything logical you say is hereby ignored and changed into the phrase, "Shoop Da Whoop". I bid you good day.

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Technically, you prove either me, or Jecht right. So, which is it? We wouldn't need any more controversy within this thread?

[archie17]

Also' date=' you are actually admitting that this card's effect is just a cheap rip-off from Skill Drain.

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Rip off? not exactly, it just happens to have similar effects of what I was envisioning of the one character I had in mind.

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I'm done. This is why I stopped trying to help people with their cards. They won't accept that there is something wrong, or it's not unique, or blah blah blah. I am done with this thread. I tried to tell you what I thought would help it, but enjoy your card.

[archie17]

I'm done. This is why I stopped trying to help people with their cards. They won't accept that there is something wrong' date=' or it's not unique, or blah blah blah. I am done with this thread. I tried to tell you what I thought would help it, but enjoy your card.

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You told me is what Jacht pointed out first that its a

 

-monster Skill Drain

-you think the art is off

-the type is off

 

my answer to that is

 

-it is a monster Skill Drain, that means its = slightly different with Cost and Changed Category-Type

With that being said... so what? What are you trying to prove its unoriginal? It may be but its what I had in mind based on someone with those type of powers. I've already done original ideas before, not trying to do so with this card that much. So whether you think its a cheap Rip off of Skill Drain or not, that was not and is not my intent, even if you think so its still a different functional card now matter how you look at it.

- OK...so what?

- Not at all. Psychic Emperor remember.

 

I can handle constructive criticism, I had already listen to someone point out the pic looked squished so I fixed that, and I did take what you had to say, but it didn't amount to anything I needed to incorporate to improve the card. but apparently you can't handle a simple explanation of why the card is the way it is.

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LOLYCM!!!

I swear what you just said is that my way of helping your card out helped in no way. You may be a Senior Member, and I'm not saying anything because I have higher Stars, but you are acting more like a New Member. You aren't taking criticism well, which is plainly shown by your constant arguing that we're wrong, when it is in plain view that we are indeed, right. As much as you say you are not arguing, you are wrong. All I'm saying, is that if you compare this to the cards created by more..... Elite Creators if you will, they take in the consideration of every little detail on a card, not just what they see, or are trying to incorporate.

[DMZ]

There is not that much wrong with this card. Yes, it is extremely similar with Skill Drain, and yes, the only difference is the fact that this one needs a tribute instead of the 1000 LP. And yes, to some point I agree with Yugiohpro that the pic doesn't really suit the TCG. ON the other side I have seen cards that are a LOT worse.

And if you are going to try and make a "Unique" card, you'll be busy for 200 years.

 

8.5/10

[Mindscatter]

Useless. Damages your own monsters for nothing. You would expect using this in a Psychic deck, but that would be suicide.

[archie17]

LOLYCM!!!

I swear what you just said is that my way of helping your card out helped in no way. You may be a Senior Member' date=' and I'm not saying anything because I have higher Stars, but you are acting more like a New Member. You aren't taking criticism well, which is plainly shown by your constant arguing that we're wrong, when it is in plain view that we are indeed, right. As much as you say you are not arguing, you are wrong. All I'm saying, is that if you compare this to the cards created by more..... Elite Creators if you will, they take in the consideration of every little detail on a card, not just what they see, or are trying to incorporate.

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Spare me, the LOL routine and the "WE" are right and "I" am wrong points. You cannot tell me I am wrong for making this card. Ever.

 

Because when I made this card out from the very first post, i specifically stated inspired by the Haitian's powers from Heroes. That is what I had in mind from the get go.

 

So I never intended for this card to be anymore than what it was, just make the OCG correct and fix the size of pic if it looked weird. Other than that there was nothing else I envisioned about how this card would be anything more than that.

 

Your suggestions are nothing that really would of made the card any better. This is a straight forward card and you need not explain how complex cards are examined here. I already know that.