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No' date=' Cursing on the internet to make your post seem like it actualy means something makes you look like an illiterate fool, who can only use violence to get their point across.

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Did I even use violence against you? No, I didn't. Thought I could have used a different word than bullshit. But that doesn't change the fact that you are an illiterate fool.

 

This thread should be locked, as this argument isn't going anywhere. They will just keep on going saying that disallowing Fake-types will "suppress" the so called "creativity" and all that other nonsense. Stubborn fools, that's what they are.

wtf are you saying?

i hate fake types , they are totaly useless , learn to read all posts before posting .

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No' date=' Cursing on the internet to make your post seem like it actualy means something makes you look like an illiterate fool, who can only use violence to get their point across.

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No. Cursing on the internet makes you look awesome to know that you can swear in a E-Arguement to prove that you won.

 

And what the hell does violence have to do with swearing?

 

No' date=' Cursing on the internet to make your post seem like it actualy means something makes you look like an illiterate fool, who can only use violence to get their point across.

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Did I even use violence against you? No, I didn't. Thought I could have used a different word than bullshit. But that doesn't change the fact that you are an illiterate fool.

 

This thread should be locked, as this argument isn't going anywhere. They will just keep on going saying that disallowing Fake-types will "suppress" the so called "creativity" and all that other nonsense. Stubborn fools, that's what they are.

 

Then we argue somemore. It's been like that since Fake-Types first arised, and by all means, will fight for their destruction. /E-Leader

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reploids could 'fit' into separate already existing type' date=' but they wouldn't really belong there.

for example, there is sting chameleon, a reptile. then there is harpuia, a warrior. there is also aztec falcon, a winged beast. shall i continue?

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So, why not give them the types that they fit into? What's so wrong with that?

because there is no one specific type that they can fit into on their own. *eyerolls* didn't i already explain that?

......... I said it was just to Let him se not to get judged' date=' It negates the efect and you gain an efect.

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Wow , ur grammar is even bader than mine O.o

and i got flamed cause my grammar sucks

 

Like I said, Grammar is useless on the Internets. XD

 

Stop using this "grammar is useless on the internet" bullshit. Makes you look like some illiterate fool.

Stop flaming my girl unless you want to get hurt. :evil:

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He uses other examples because he can't think of his own.

 

I made a sub-type called Idealist that focused on getting benefits from having multiple types out or in your grave yard.

 

Yes I know it could have been a archetype which is why I didn't use it.

 

I brought up the inventors because Parable said earlier.

 

No' date=' because the kids of ycm feel that "Scientist" cannot be attributed anywhere.

 

The question rises "why the hell would you make a Scientist type if Magical Scientist had a type he belonged too?"

 

The reply "why not" cannot be applied here because of the proof of Magical Scientist.

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I simply thought he was talking about inventors and didn't care enough to realize they were Inventors and not Scientists.

 

He seems the type to not care.

 

No offense of course.

 

Even though fake types themselves can or may be useless, (even with inventors or scientists that aren't magical, you could simply make the inventors robots and give them a Factory archetype) subtypes are pretty fair game.

 

For example suppose a card that is intentionally weak but when it does something you can tribute it for multiple cards equal to it's level.

 

Plus you make a whole set like this.

 

That gives you just as good a reason to make it a sub-type as Spirits had.

 

Chaos all of those reploids are machines, good AI's and had emotions and stuff but so did HAL-9000 and GLaDOS and they are still machines.

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Umbra Newbie

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defidently

 

*adds word to dictionary*

 

Could you please list four examples of Types that are defidently needed? Otherwise' date=' I don't see a point of your argument.

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Umbra gets +1 internetz, which is rare in a Mod.

 

Possibly Spirit or ghost. What really needs to happen is that Konami re-organizes the types.

 

The OCG/Japanese name for the Zombie type is Undead, in which both spirits and ghosts perfectly fit.

Game over, insert coin?

 

Chaos Zero, this "reploid" monstrosity you speak of seems more like an Archetype to me than anything else. Which means you don't have to put them in a single Type.

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Umbra haven't you played Megaman X?

 

All repliods are surper advance sentient robots created in the future.

 

The exceptions being X and Zwro who were created by Light and Wily respectivly.

 

They are all machines, period.

 

Game over, return to base, thanks for playing.

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Chaos all of those reploids are machines' date=' good AI's and had emotions and stuff but so did HAL-9000 and GLaDOS and they are still machines.

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Chaos Zero' date=' this "reploid" monstrosity you speak of seems more like an Archetype to me than anything else. Which means you don't have to put them in a single Type.

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*sighs most heavily* okay, first of all, reploids are not monstrosities, nor are they strictly machines. there are humans that became reploids, and also reploids that became humans, (to a certain limited extent) so to just put them all into machine would not work. and second, reploids, move, they have a will of their own, and most importantly, the evolve as an individual, not to mention the fact that they are self sufficient, independant, can survive entirely on their own...there are no machines that are able to do that, and machines always require there to be at least one other machine around for some purpose or another.

still, that's more of a back story. my point is that they are more then just simple machines, even as only cards, that is why i gave them their own type. i do still put them in as types already in existence, (warrior, for example) but they do not truly belong in any type, sub-type, or archetype already in existence, and are more then just a sub-type or an archetype. do you see what i am getting at now?

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still' date=' that's more of a back story. my point is that they are more then just simple machines, even as only cards, that is why i gave them their own type. i do still put them in as types already in existence, (warrior, for example) but they do not truly belong in any type, sub-type, or [b']archetype already in existence[/b], and are more then just a sub-type or an archetype. do you see what i am getting at now?

 

A sub-type requires a different game mechanic than cards belonging to other subtypes or no subtypes at all, and I don't see this Reploid thing doing any of that. The whole "self-sufficient" thing is invalidated by default: If that would have made sense in YGO, Machines wouldn't have existed at all. But guess what; they do.

 

At bold: That's why you make your own Archetype for them, not your own Type.

 

Reploid Gamalon

LIGHT

Warrior / Tuner

5 / 1600 / 1200

When this card is Summoned, add 1 "Reploid" monster in your Graveyard to your hand.

 

THAT is how to handle monsters of different Types and/or Attributes that have a common theme which isn't different enough to require a subtype.

 

Game over, insert coin.

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Your question is very disorganized. Are you asking me if they're wrong, or are they pointless?

 

I don't mind them, but they are pointless in more ways than not. Please, this discussion has been if their pointless or not, not your original question of "Is it wrong or not?" Next time, try to be straight with what your asking. Don't ask something and tolerate something different.

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That 'inventor' crap again? Mmk.

 

What you people haven't noticed or even stepped onto yet is the fact of the whole card game.

 

I mean, look closely at what this whole game is. It's Yugioh, right? No, it's Yugioh Monsters. You use monsters to battle other monsters. Therefore, you don't use a scientist to enter the battlefield. That would be a pathetic choice.

 

Have you actually SEEN what card you're making. All you guys said was 'Vanilla' or 'Effect'. But IT'S A MONSTER. SCIENTISTS AND INVENTORS AREN'T MONSTERS. Making a genre of card based on real life is pointless.

 

Saying that 'the card I'm making is a pop culture card and it should have a fake type' is also a crap idea. Pop Culture card are NOT meant to exist in real life conditions. They are just meant for the purpose of sheer pleasure on commenting and making them.

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@Umbra: Neither did I, I just read wikis allot.

 

@Pikachu: Allot of the yugioh monsters aren't monsters really. The warriors look pretty human for example. And Overdrive is a car. I see your point though, inventor is not much of a useful monster if they aren't anything but scientists. I don't get the pop culture arguement, you said that they are not meant to exist in real life. So why would giving the card a fake type matter? If they arn't meant to exist in real life then it shouldn't matter if the card has a fake type.

 

The big problem with making a normal fake type is Konami uses the real types so broadly that even if a fake type could logically be useable it could fit in other types.

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@Umbra: Neither did I, I just read wikis allot.

 

@Pikachu: Allot of the yugioh monsters aren't monsters really. The warriors look pretty human for example. And Overdrive is a car. I see your point though, inventor is not much of a useful monster if they aren't anything but scientists. I don't get the pop culture arguement, you said that they are not meant to exist in real life. So why would giving the card a fake type matter? If they arn't meant to exist in real life then it shouldn't matter if the card has a fake type.

 

The big problem with making a normal fake type is Konami uses the real types so broadly that even if a fake type could logically be useable it could fit in other types.

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@Umbra: Neither did I, I just read wikis allot.

 

@Pikachu: Allot of the yugioh monsters aren't monsters really. The warriors look pretty human for example. And Overdrive is a car. I see your point though, inventor is not much of a useful monster if they aren't anything but scientists. I don't get the pop culture arguement, you said that they are not meant to exist in real life. So why would giving the card a fake type matter? If they arn't meant to exist in real life then it shouldn't matter if the card has a fake type.

 

The big problem with making a normal fake type is Konami uses the real types so broadly that even if a fake type could logically be useable it could fit in other types.

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