Psycho Shocker Android Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 173 blue eyes white dragon3 dark magician1 elemental hero stratos3 elemental hero prisma3 honest1 sangan1 morphing jar1 spirit reaper1 kaiba man 143 burst stream of destruction3 dark magic attack3 e emergency call1 reinforcement of the army1 heavy storm1 mystical space typhoon1 brain control1 lightning vortex 092 raigeki break3 birthright1 call of the haunted1 torrential tribute1 mirror force1 solemn judgment extra : 151 blue-eyes ultimate dragon1 dark paladin1 sanwitch1 reaper on the nightmare1 chimeratech fortress dragon1 red dragon archfiend1 colossal fighter1 thought ruler archfiend1 stardust dragon1 blackwing armor master1 black rose dragon1 goyo guardian1 brionac dragon of the ice barrier1 magical android1 ally of justice catastor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:pyramid:. Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 dark sealed hex for luz??? or even a phantom of chaos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Black Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 where's the tuner monster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Should have PWWB or R-Break to discard junk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord dmoc Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Where is Kaibaman and Skilled Dark Magician? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizzfan911 Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Maybe 1 or 2 ancient rules. That all really depends on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwing-Master Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Chaos Sorc?Maybe D-hero Diamond dude? most of the spells your runninh are normal and this way you can run the d-draw engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraz Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 -Marshmallon-Reaper-Sangan +3 Neos Alius -2 Common Charity +1 Raigeki Break+1 My body as a Shield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizzfan911 Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 I agree with above about Diamond Dude. It should help this deck out alot. i would stick in a Kaibaman too. It will be a good grab for sangan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vision Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Tech a skill drain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho Shocker Android Posted January 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Woah so many ideas. YCM is on fire today. dark sealed hex for luz??? or even a phantom of chaos Not sure about these 2 but I agree dark hex for paladin would be fun. where's the tuner monster? It's Brain Control. Should have PWWB or R-Break to discard junk. Agree. Where is Kaibaman and Skilled Dark Magician? I like Kaiba Man cuz he's Light but I don't like wasting a summon. Ancient Rule might be better here. Maybe with Summoner Art too. What do you think? Maybe 1 or 2 ancient rules. That all really depends on you. Would you run Summoner Art too? Chaos Sorc?Maybe D-hero Diamond dude? most of the spells your runninh are normal and this way you can run the d-draw engine. I thought about Sorcerer the thing is I don't really want to remove DM and BEWD from play. -Marshmallon-Reaper-Sangan +3 Neos Alius -2 Common Charity +1 Raigeki Break+1 My body as a Shield You see that's funny because I had an idea with Wrath of Neos and Assault Armor I might post the decklist here too. I'm not a big fan of My Body as a Shield. I will replace that for Solemn Judgment. I agree with above about Diamond Dude. It should help this deck out alot. i would stick in a Kaibaman too. It will be a good grab for sangan You see I was hesitating between running Honest or Diamond Dude with some Threatening Roar. I'd need to test and see what's better. Tech a skill drain? It's actually in the side deck, after some playtesting I'll tech one if they work well. After all that, here's the modifications: -1 Marshmallon-3 Common Charity +1 Kaiba Man+1 Solemn Judgment+2 Raigeki Break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 i dont see swing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho Shocker Android Posted January 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 i dont see swing. I'm not seeing it either, but I do see triple Birthright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 thats like saying you dont see roar, but you do see gardna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraz Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 I can't allure away a roar or search it with rota. Bad example is bad. It's like seeing saku but no mirror force is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 not really a better example; barely anyone runs either of those. i could have easily said rush recklessly versus shrink, but it wasnt exactly relevant given that no one uses rush. furthermore, my example is better because people will run both gardna and roar in a deck, but no one would run sakuretsu period. johnny here should be running both birthright and swing. they have alternate and slightly varied uses: continuous trap keeps monster revived, swing brings them back faster for a sweep or a burst/darkmagic, but their central core function is the same: specialling a normal from your grave. this carries over to my example because while gardna and roar both work at blocking attacks, they both have some slight variation in usage and other abilities (roar blocking multiple attacks and messing with their strategy by leading them to attack when unnecessary or waste an st. gardna being.. rota-able apparently, and allurable/dadfood/chaosfood). however for pure splashability in the largest range of decks, roar > gardna, swing > birthright. that isnt to say one should be run and the other shouldnt. it depends on your build. also, overused meme is not a substitute for wit. and is overused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho Shocker Android Posted January 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 thats like saying you dont see roar' date=' but you do see gardna.[/quote'] Yes, that's my point LS players would laugh at you for this. If you're following you'll see everybody seems to run Tragoedia and Gorz. That's 1 reason why Birthright is better. You can activate it during your battle phase to counter those cards and even win when your opponent would have block with a weak Trago. Also, I want to keep my monster on the field. I can bypass BTH by activating Birthright in the end phase before my opponent can activate his trap. Plus the fact that my monster remains on the field is better for BEWD, specially with honest. If I want to activate Dark Magic Attack or Burst Stream of Destruction, I have Prisma. The Normal Monsters are here for beatdown and I can't afford to lose them in the end phase or minus myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Black Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 i don't like 4 emergency call and a rota, it's kind of overkill. you should replace kaibaman with skilled dark magician, the magician is so much better. u can use your sangan for honest or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 all that is lovely, but birthright is a trap. swing is a spell. the speed difference is rather important. ls would laugh at me, yes. one deck. granted a popular deck, but thats not the point. actually, come to think of it, i dont even need to defend this, i already addressed it. however for pure splashability in the largest range of decks, roar > gardna, swing > birthright. that isnt to say one should be run and the other shouldnt. it depends on your build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho Shocker Android Posted January 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 i don't like 4 emergency call and a rota' date=' it's kind of overkill. you should replace kaibaman with skilled dark magician, the magician is so much better. u can use your sangan for honest or something.[/quote'] The thing is I need Prisma or half of the cards I'm playing are dead. Also Skilled Dark looks nice but I tested it and I can't activate a lot of spells if DM or BEWD isn't on the field. So it ends up being pointless to use him to bring out DM. And Tronta you're the one who said it depends on your build. Swing is better in gigavise since you can trade blazewing for gigaplant or use gigaplant to synchro summon with a tuner like nettles. That way you never lose your monster in the process. In any other deck you'd be better of using Birthright. The only way I would add Swing in this deck is if you could modify it so I can pull off an OTK with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 i don't like 4 emergency call and a rota' date=' it's kind of overkill. you should replace kaibaman with skilled dark magician, the magician is so much better. u can use your sangan for honest or something.[/quote'] The thing is I need Prisma or half of the cards I'm playing are dead. Also Skilled Dark looks nice but I tested it and I can't activate a lot of spells if DM or BEWD isn't on the field. So it ends up being pointless to use him to bring out DM. And Tronta you're the one who said it depends on your build. Swing is better in gigavise since you can trade blazewing for gigaplant or use gigaplant to synchro summon with a tuner like nettles. That way you never lose your monster in the process. In any other deck you'd be better of using Birthright. The only way I would add Swing in this deck is if you could modify it so I can pull off an OTK with it. Uh... Prisma, Burst Stream, 3x Swing on Dark Magician and lol5cardOTKthatonlydoes7500. Yeah, stick with Birthright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 if the build is incapable of pulling an otk regardless of whether or not you're using swing or birthright then it's a bad freaking build.speaking of which, the dark magician aspect of it is pretty weak. a 2-more card heavy storm isn't really worth it.try straight up vanilla dragons. lets you run future fusion, redmd and trihorn, which makes allure and tradein viable draw engines. and what part of birthright being a trap card escapes notice here? slow /and/ vulnerable. there's so much general and st destruction in this meta that you likely won't even get a turn with your pretty new monster if they use trunade, heavy, mst, ryko, lyla, celestia, jd, dad, chaos, raiza, caius, snipe hunter, gyzarus, bestiari, breaker or dark magic attack. especially since most of these cards are run in most of the decks you'll come across. also, where did i say drop birthright? keep it. just add swing. it's a good funking card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Black Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 if prisma is that important, then fine. i'll suggest for you to use pot of avarice to re-use a bunch of cards, but you do have birthright, which is a good card too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 vanillas are easier used from the grave than the deck/hand. in the hand they cost too much, usually a -1 to -2 and you'll probably be using your normal summon. in the deck they're just dead draws unless you're running tradein, heart or charity (<- vanilla allure. i think its called something charity) from the grave, however, they're a +0 via swing (it becomes a -1 later, but a 2.5 to 3k damage swing is worth a -1) or birthright (slooooowwwww) so poa isnt a great idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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