Dark Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 War Chess has the more liberal opinion, and I like that about him, but his arguments sadly make me laugh. Why can't people provide shitty arguments for why we shouldn't legalize abortion? ...already happened? Thought so... :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 We've all heard the whole "life begins at conception" argument, I'm curious to hear the evidence that life doesn't begin at conception. O_O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 I'd love to hear the argument that killing life, regardless of the stage of life, regardless of any outside circumstances, regardless of any variable factor, is always bad. Because then wars would be bad, but I'm sure America is just one morally corrupt bastard, isn't that right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 War Chess has the more liberal opinion, and I like that about him, but his arguments sadly make me laugh. Why can't people provide shitty arguments for why we shouldn't legalize abortion? ...already happened? Thought so... :/Abortion should be legal because people are stupid. That's the reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 We've all heard the whole "life begins at conception" argument, I'm curious to hear the evidence that life doesn't begin at conception. O_OI think life does begin at conception. That doesn't mean it's a life worth concerning yourself over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Justice Master Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 I would like to adress a few things. Some of you people are saying that rape, death after birth, and other unusual examples don't happen often enough. Some of you want it outlawed because you know people will abuse this right. I know this, but if you outlaw it completely we will get the above examples as proof of our mistake. Some say abortion is barbaric. True, but what other species drinks the milk of another? What other species beats it's fellow kin on a daily basis? Abortion is a choice. And before someone wants to be a smart mouth and say "Well your mother didn't get an abortion when she had the choice!" Would it matter? I wouldn't be alive to hold a grudge. Also, it was her choice she wanted a child, some others wish not to have that same fate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Chess Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Abortion should be legal because people are stupid. That's the reason. This is the most fail argument I've ever heard.Abortion, in my opinion, MUST NOT BE LEGALIZED !It must be legalized in some cases, that's what I'm saying.I don't support people f***ing and not wanting to have babies so they abort, NO ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkest Hour Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 People who think abortion should be mandatory are idiots, regardless if the people are degenerates or not. I think people should have the right to choose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Chess Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 People who think abortion should be mandatory are idiots, regardless if the people are degenerates or not. I think people should have the right to choose. FIRST REAL POST I'VE SEEN ! People shouldn't choose, they MUST choose, MUST.Each person has the right to do whatever he/she wants in this life.DONE ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Well, it's up to those who want or don't want a child. I think abortion is wrong, but it makes sense of the hardships of childcare. So they have to be careful about the rights of having sex or having responibilty of childhood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 This is the most fail argument I've ever heard.Abortion, in my opinion, MUST NOT BE LEGALIZED !It must be legalized in some cases, that's what I'm saying.I don't support people f***ing and not wanting to have babies so they abort, NO !Do that and they turn to an underground doctor or even something akin to a close hanger to kill the baby themselves. Not aborting is a decision the mother has to make, even if it's dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 This is the most fail argument I've ever heard.Abortion, in my opinion, MUST NOT BE LEGALIZED !It must be legalized in some cases, that's what I'm saying.I don't support people f***ing and not wanting to have babies so they abort, NO ! ABORTION SHOULD NOT BE LEGALIZED IF I AM FEMALE, HAVE SEX WITH MY TOTALLY STUD BOYFRIEND, AND GET PREGNANT. FIRST REAL POST I'VE SEEN ! People shouldn't choose, they MUST choose, MUST.Each person has the right to do whatever he/she wants in this life.DONE ! I HAVE THE RIGHT DO WHATEVER I WANT IN THIS LIFE. AND I MUST CHOOSE WHETHER I WANT AN ABORTION OR NOT.I DO. BUT IT IS NOT LEGALIZED FOR ME.BUT I HAVE THE RIGHT TO A CHOICE.I WANT AN ABORTION.BUT IT IS NOT LEGALIZED FOR ME.ad infinitum... Seriously, are you just stupid or a troll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 People who think abortion should be mandatory are idiots, regardless if the people are degenerates or not. I think people should have the right to choose.Who has seriously suggested making abortion mandatory in this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 · Hidden by ~/Coolio Prime\~, January 14, 2011 - No reason given Hidden by ~/Coolio Prime\~, January 14, 2011 - No reason given Who has seriously suggested making abortion mandatory in this thread?You dare bring question to the first real post War Chess has ever seen? Link to comment
War Chess Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 You think abortion should be legal ?It should be legal only in special cirunstances. Consider special situations. Also, now the posts look more Spamming and Flamming after all.I suggest we all to step back before get caught on spamming. EDIT - Lance Corporal Atlas in post 139, negged for mocking at me. ABORTION SHOULD NOT BE LEGALIZED IF I AM FEMALE, HAVE SEX WITH MY TOTALLY STUD BOYFRIEND, AND GET PREGNANT. I HAVE THE RIGHT DO WHATEVER I WANT IN THIS LIFE. AND I MUST CHOOSE WHETHER I WANT AN ABORTION OR NOT.I DO. BUT IT IS NOT LEGALIZED FOR ME.BUT I HAVE THE RIGHT TO A CHOICE.I WANT AN ABORTION.BUT IT IS NOT LEGALIZED FOR ME.ad infinitum... Seriously, are you just stupid or a troll? No, choices in specific situations.PLEASE LISTEN TO ME !ABORTION SHOULD NOT BE LEGAL EXCEPT IN SPECIAL CASES, SUCH AS RAPE AND WHEN THE WOMAN CAN DIE AT HAVING THE BABY. IN THIS CASE, MOTHER HAS FULL RIGHT TO DO IT.Woman FUCKS AND GETS PREGNANT< AND WANTS TO ABORT BECAUSE DOESN'T WANT THE BABY< BABY HAS FULL RIGHTS TO NOT BE ABORTED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 WHY ARE WE ALL TYPING LIKE THIS? Anyway, the Pro-Life argument is not one to restrict the mother's rights, it's to protect the rights of a human who will, within nine months, become a citizen with the same rights as anyone. That being said, death would be better than life in some cases, such as crack-addicted bastard children of prostitutes (as a more extreme example.) However, I'm not sure I can justify abortion in the case of, "I dun wan a baby, teh condomz waz too expensiv!" I also find it funny how the conservative side generally hate abortion, (sometimes to the point of breaking into tears) yet believe in physically disciplining a child. The liberal side on the other hand, are OK with abortion, yet are usually more cautious of "Child Abuse." (That was meant to be a neutral observation, if I failed, I am sorry.) Oh, and just for the lulz, look at the "statistics" of women feeling regret after having an abortion. Here's the catch, look at statistics from both the Hope Pregnancy Center AND the Planned Parenthood organization. I think you'll find that they are quite different. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Let's try and look at this from another angle. For what reason (without unproven "souls") should embryos have rights we don't give to other animals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Unclean One: VK Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 [spoiler= Good and bad things about abortion] Good things about abortion: Gets rid of another mouth to feed to a already pretty big family Stops the birth of a bastard child Stops the birth of a baby who's father is also the father of it's mother Stops unwanted incest results Save lives Helps stem cell research which could help uncle Charlie get his legs back after them Victor Charlies took them from him because of him taking point Helps curb population Encourages women's right about their body Can stop long term suffering for parent(s) and child Stop the birth of the next Hitler or General Tojo Bad things: Can be abused, then again, what else isn't abused? Morally wrong, though this depends on the individual, and since no one thinks the same, it ain't for everyone though I wonder why would they bud into other people's bussiness? Can stop the birth of the next George W. Bush or Reagan Make religous nutjobs go nuts I laugh at the people who say this is abusable. It is, then again, what isn't my friends? People abuse the welfare system and the such. People abuse alcohol, their wives, their husbands, their kids, their pets, and themselves. It'll be near impossible to stop people from abusing these things. Unless we put strict regulations of course, but then that'll ruin the purpose of having very interment sex with your partner and not wanting to deal with the hassle of having to use a new condom everytime. Personally, if they wish to help to the research of stem cells, LET THEM. As long the clinic uses the fetuses as such of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 Also, and while this may be a stupid argument, I'm sure we (and by "we" I mean "pro-choice" people) have exhausted all other arguments for why abortion should be legal, but you refuse to listen, so I will turn to humor to appease your incompetent minds. Since suicide is absolutely possible, despite its legality or not (throw a dead body in jail, hur-hur), one must consider if the baby wants to be born or not. It should not be Obama's choice whether I wanted to be born. It should be MY choice. And because I am not really old enough to make an informed decision, it should default to the mother. Pro. Choice. Pro-choice. Checkmate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Culpa Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 Ya know, I was talking about this just the other day. I was talking about death like normal with my friends (we're a very odd group, if you haven't noticed) and my friend said. "Kill me last! I'm too young to die." So I responded with, "You're never too young to die, that's why they have abortions." And I could care less either way. If someone wants to kill their own unborn spawn, it's probably for the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 And I could care less either way. If someone wants to kill their own unborn spawn, it's probably for the better. This. If I had to choose, I'd probably say I was Pro-Life, but if anybody actually didn't want to have a baby, they're better off not raising one. And adoption? As much as I would like to say it's a viable alternative, it's not. Babies do not get adopted. Extremely healthy white babies get adopted. [/confused rant] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 Babies do not get adopted. Extremely healthy white babies get adopted. [/confused rant]Balderdash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 BalderdashOk, the "white" part was a little overboard, but how many people do you know that would adopt a crack baby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 Yeah, deformed babies definitely aren't as likely to be adopted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Let's assume you are a girl. At the moment, you may be a girl, or maybe a boy, or maybe a transvestite. But, just assume you are a girl. You walk home one day and your boyfriend rapes you. You have not a clue why. He straps you down to the bed, and you can tell what happens from there. No condoms, nothing. In a few weeks, you realize you are pregnant. This is going to be your child where your boyfriend is the father. You are about to give birth to your own son. Tell me, wouldn't you want to get an abortion? Would you want to give birth to a baby that was created by mistake? By your father's horrible intentions? Even if the baby was going to be adopted, wouldn't you feel horrible just thinking of giving birth? Seriously, it's your fathers damn child. I'd hate to give birth to it. And to further my point, let's assume you are 16, still in high school. You have all of these things to worry about, and now the potential for a baby. Abortion is perfectly fine as long as people don't abuse it.Fix'd and that's how my year of being 15 went. My fiance isn't the father of my child, go figure. I was sexually abused by my ex for years and not to forget the physical abuse I received from my parents. I was physically abused my parents since I was 6 and abused by my ex for 4 years and i never got an abortion but you know what's ironic? I'm pro-choice. You should have the choice whether or not to abort the baby. Did I think about it? Yes, I don't regret my decision because the courts say Joshua's father can't be within 1000 feet of me, my child and fiance. Joshua is young enough that we can completely eliminate the thought of there being another guy and that my husband to-be isn't the father. Joshua was born in Germany while we were staying at the spring retreat so he has no birth certificate and no way to know about his father. In short, you can be put through hell but you should still have the choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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