gtfgygy Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Ok here is my new card. Post your likes/dislikes and ways to improve. EFFECT : When this card is destroyed and sent to the Graveyard as a result of battle or opponents Spell/Trap activate one of the following effects : Increase all WATER monsters ATK points on your side of the field by 750 points. Special summon up to two level six or below WATER type monsters from your hand. Select one of your opponents WATER type monsters and remove it from play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 the 750 atk boost to WATER monsters shouldn't be a permanent one, unless you add in something like this can only work for a WATER monster with 500 atk or less And not WATER type monsters, just WATER monsters. WATER is an attribute, remember? That effect is OPed since you gave no restrictions on the lv6 or lower monsters 7/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blakeasirda Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 The 750 Increase should last for a turn. That is all. There should be a limit on attack for the Lv 6 or lower monsters that are special summoned or it should only be one. And Ragnarok pointed out the Grammar so I need not say anything about that.The picture fits the card perfectly! That is amazing. You recieve slight extra credit for that.Rating:Balance: 1/3Grammar: 2/3Originality: 2/2Art: 2.5/2total: 7.5/ 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 The above two posters are unable to balance cards since they seem to be playing the game as it was 5 years ago - maybe longer. A 3000/3000 without Summoning conditions - as well as something over level 8 without Summoning conditions, is a little odd. It's not broken technically, but I do believe it is a confine that is good to remain in without good reason to do otherwise, for the reason of avoiding power creep becoming drastic as such levels become acceptable. Other than the last effect, which I hate for being a degenerate effect, this is actually pretty good, works with ALO and such. Good card, fairly balanced, breaks some guidelines but not to an awful extent. Might not see play since there's no easy way to get it out. Should probably change/remove the last effect (removing opponent's monsters). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Skull Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 That's a weird pic, nice though. ;) OCG is very old, use the OCG thread to help you with that. OP'ed, specially because you can special summon ANY 2 level 6 or lower WATER monster, and since you didn't put a summoning condition, you only need 2 tributed to summon this card. Put hard summoning condition and I'll say it is balanced. [spoiler=OCG Correction]When this card is destroyed and sent to the Graveyard active one of the following effects: .Increase the ATK of all WATER monsters you control by 750 points. .Special Summon up to 2 Level 6 or lower WATER monsters from your hand. .Remove from play 1 WATER monster your opponent controls. 7.5/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 That's a weird pic' date=' nice though. ;) OCG is very old, use the OCG thread to help you with that. OP'ed, specially because you can special summon ANY 2 level 6 or lower WATER monster, and since you didn't put a summoning condition, you only need 2 tributed to summon this card. Put hard summoning condition and I'll say it is balanced. [spoiler=OCG Correction']When this card is destroyed and sent to the Graveyard active one of the following effects: .Increase the ATK of all WATER monsters you control by 750 points. .Special Summon up to 2 Level 6 or lower WATER monsters from your hand. .Remove from play 1 WATER monster your opponent controls. 7.5/10 Stop acting like that summon is at all overpowered.Even with ALO, dragging out 2 Level 7s isn't that much of a big deal. Please. Don't comment on balance without understanding the current game and that you shouldn't, if you play well, have many strong monsters in-hand anyway. This card is UP'd if anything since it's situational, no-trade in fodder and very much dead-draw central. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Skull Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 That's a weird pic' date=' nice though. ;) OCG is very old, use the OCG thread to help you with that. OP'ed, specially because you can special summon ANY 2 level 6 or lower WATER monster, and since you didn't put a summoning condition, you only need 2 tributed to summon this card. Put hard summoning condition and I'll say it is balanced. [spoiler=OCG Correction']When this card is destroyed and sent to the Graveyard active one of the following effects: .Increase the ATK of all WATER monsters you control by 750 points. .Special Summon up to 2 Level 6 or lower WATER monsters from your hand. .Remove from play 1 WATER monster your opponent controls. 7.5/10 Stop acting like that summon is at all overpowered.Even with ALO, dragging out 2 Level 7s isn't that much of a big deal. Please. Don't comment on balance without understanding the current game and that you shouldn't, if you play well, have many strong monsters in-hand anyway. This card is UP'd if anything since it's situational, no-trade in fodder and very much dead-draw central.*FACEPALM* & *HEADDESK*Any probs with my opinion?Stop complaining about me!!!You think you know much, but you're just crazy man, this is an UP card?Lol, please don't make me laugh :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Yes. This is UP.It's a slow, dead draw beatstick which doesn't do a lot other than swarm from hand, not a very useful feat, and give a mediocre boost.Any decent tier 1/2 Deck would find this too cloggy to consider good.It has merits in that is a pretty good card for a new member and I tried to be encouraging and focus on the positives, but you sound like you don't even play in a semi-competitive environment, where this is too slow to be used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Skull Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Yes. This is UP.It's a slow' date=' dead draw beatstick which doesn't do a lot other than swarm from hand, not a very useful feat, and give a mediocre boost.Any decent tier 1/2 Deck would find this too cloggy to consider good.It has merits in that is a pretty good card for a new member and I tried to be encouraging and focus on the positives, but you sound like you don't even play in a semi-competitive environment, where this is too slow to be used.[/quote'] Do you actually look at the WHOLE card, or just the effect?3000 ATK 3000 DEF + powerfull effect and you say it's UP?If you say it's balanced I would think about it but UP? You are crazy that's impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 3000 ATK and DEF isn't a big balancing factor in an effect-strong game. And the effect isn't at all powerful. Understand how a modern dueling environment works, please. I duel against good tier 1-2 Decks on a fairly regular basis and this is not a useful card in any particular Deck. It's a good concept and the TC could have good potential. This is just too situational and dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YugiMasterMind Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 well played! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Skull Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 3000 ATK and DEF isn't a big balancing factor in an effect-strong game. And the effect isn't at all powerful. Understand how a modern dueling environment works' date=' please. I duel against good tier 1-2 Decks on a fairly regular basis and this is not a useful card in any particular Deck. It's a good concept and the TC could have good potential. This is just too situational and dead.[/quote']Can't you just go posting on another thread? Seriously, you can be really annoying. Just let me make my posts and you go make yours. It's not your life, neither your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoblinKing01 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 its definitely not OP lol. Judgment Dragon. Now thats OP. Compared to cards like that where all you need is 4 different lightsworn in your graveyard to summon him and then pay 1000 to blow up the field this card would be nothing. Plus all you would need to take this guy out is a man eater bug... or compulsory evacuation device... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 3000 ATK and DEF isn't a big balancing factor in an effect-strong game. And the effect isn't at all powerful. Understand how a modern dueling environment works' date=' please. I duel against good tier 1-2 Decks on a fairly regular basis and this is not a useful card in any particular Deck. It's a good concept and the TC could have good potential. This is just too situational and dead.[/quote']Can't you just go posting on another thread? Seriously, you can be really annoying. Just let me make my posts and you go make yours. It's not your life, neither your opinion. If you tell the TC that a UP'd/balanced card is OP'd, then he's going to make it worse and end up being a worse card maker. A lot of people in this section do that, so Icy has asked me to start posting here and point out when posts are outright wrong. Yours was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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