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If you say pictures aren't your forte i suggest, you visit Jazin Kay's Photobucket gallery.

 

Ofcourse there's nothing wrong with Vanillas, as long as it tells a short story about what that monster is about, which not many card makers are capable of, there's nothing wrong with it.

And it's always better to play it with some support, Griffin.

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Let's put it this way, I love the second pic. Where did you find it? Also, I completely agree with you in the title. The first card does seems a little OP'ed, even if it is a Normal Monster. No Level 4 should have 2400 ATK unless it has a negative effect. At least, that's what I think. Overall, I think I'll give you 8/10, since I love Normal Monsters too ;-)

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If you say pictures aren't your forte i suggest' date=' you visit Jazin Kay's Photobucket gallery.

 

Ofcourse there's nothing wrong with Vanillas, as long as it tells a short story about what that monster is about, which not many card makers are capable of, there's nothing wrong with it.

And it's always better to play it with some support, Griffin.

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You think they have no support? You must be quite mistaken. Try looking again.

 

Let's put it this way' date=' I love the second pic. Where did you find it? Also, I completely agree with you in the title. The first card does seems a little OP'ed, even if it is a Normal Monster. No Level 4 should have 2400 ATK unless it has a negative effect. At least, that's what I think. Overall, I think I'll give you 8/10, since I love Normal Monsters too ;-)

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You think it has no negative effect? You must be quite mistaken. Try looking again.

 

Come on people, make sure to think of all the card's implications ;D

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Let's put it this way' date=' I love the second pic. Where did you find it? Also, I completely agree with you in the title. The first card does seems a little OP'ed, even if it is a Normal Monster. No Level 4 should have 2400 ATK unless it has a negative effect. At least, that's what I think. Overall, I think I'll give you 8/10, since I love Normal Monsters too ;-)

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You think it has no negative effect? You must be quite mistaken. Try looking again.

 

Come on people, make sure to think of all the card's implications ;D

 

Apart from the fact that it is a Normal Monster... And that the type and Attrbute have next to no synenergy... And that the DEF is low... No, I can't see the negative effect.

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Let's put it this way' date=' I love the second pic. Where did you find it? Also, I completely agree with you in the title. The first card does seems a little OP'ed, even if it is a Normal Monster. No Level 4 should have 2400 ATK unless it has a negative effect. At least, that's what I think. Overall, I think I'll give you 8/10, since I love Normal Monsters too ;-)

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You think it has no negative effect? You must be quite mistaken. Try looking again.

 

Come on people, make sure to think of all the card's implications ;D

 

the type and Attrbute have next to no synenergy

 

Bingo.

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Let's put it this way' date=' I love the second pic. Where did you find it? Also, I completely agree with you in the title. The first card does seems a little OP'ed, even if it is a Normal Monster. No Level 4 should have 2400 ATK unless it has a negative effect. At least, that's what I think. Overall, I think I'll give you 8/10, since I love Normal Monsters too ;-)

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You think it has no negative effect? You must be quite mistaken. Try looking again.

 

Come on people, make sure to think of all the card's implications ;D

 

the type and Attrbute have next to no synenergy

 

Bingo.

 

I still don't really think it's enough to warrant 2400. But I do see that it can end up as a rather major disadvantage.

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If you say pictures aren't your forte i suggest' date=' you visit Jazin Kay's Photobucket gallery.

 

Ofcourse there's nothing wrong with Vanillas, as long as it tells a short story about what that monster is about, which not many card makers are capable of, there's nothing wrong with it.

And it's always better to play it with some support, Griffin.

[/quote']

 

You think they have no support? You must be quite mistaken. Try looking again.

 

Let's put it this way' date=' I love the second pic. Where did you find it? Also, I completely agree with you in the title. The first card does seems a little OP'ed, even if it is a Normal Monster. No Level 4 should have 2400 ATK unless it has a negative effect. At least, that's what I think. Overall, I think I'll give you 8/10, since I love Normal Monsters too ;-)

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You think it has no negative effect? You must be quite mistaken. Try looking again.

 

Come on people, make sure to think of all the card's implications ;D

 

I said it would be better to post Vanillas with support.

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Let's put it this way' date=' I love the second pic. Where did you find it? Also, I completely agree with you in the title. The first card does seems a little OP'ed, even if it is a Normal Monster. No Level 4 should have 2400 ATK unless it has a negative effect. At least, that's what I think. Overall, I think I'll give you 8/10, since I love Normal Monsters too ;-)

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You think it has no negative effect? You must be quite mistaken. Try looking again.

 

Come on people, make sure to think of all the card's implications ;D

 

the type and Attrbute have next to no synenergy

 

Bingo.

 

I still don't really think it's enough to warrant 2400. But I do see that it can end up as a rather major disadvantage.

 

It's usable in:

mydec.dek (awful and doesn't merit mention in balance)

normal beatdown (awful and doesn't merit mention in balance)

possibly some sort of Solidarity Sea-Serpents (still bound to be a horrible Deck)

200 DEF = possible fit in an odd Flamvell build as a beatstick/Commando food... (They have MUCH better options.)

 

Having high ATK doesn't make it runnable. Since it's not really runnable anywhere, it's actually UP'd and was designed as a trap for members to walk into and say it's OP'd because they put far too much weight into a card's ATK when considering balance, and not enough with what it works with.

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Let's put it this way' date=' I love the second pic. Where did you find it? Also, I completely agree with you in the title. The first card does seems a little OP'ed, even if it is a Normal Monster. No Level 4 should have 2400 ATK unless it has a negative effect. At least, that's what I think. Overall, I think I'll give you 8/10, since I love Normal Monsters too ;-)

[/quote']

 

You think it has no negative effect? You must be quite mistaken. Try looking again.

 

Come on people, make sure to think of all the card's implications ;D

 

the type and Attrbute have next to no synenergy

 

Bingo.

 

I still don't really think it's enough to warrant 2400. But I do see that it can end up as a rather major disadvantage.

 

It's usable in:

mydec.dek (awful and doesn't merit mention in balance)

normal beatdown (awful and doesn't merit mention in balance)

possibly some sort of Solidarity Sea-Serpents (still bound to be a horrible Deck)

200 DEF = possible fit in an odd Flamvell build as a beatstick/Commando food... (They have MUCH better options.)

 

Having high ATK doesn't make it runnable. Since it's not really runnable anywhere, it's actually UP'd and was designed as a trap for members to walk into and say it's OP'd because they put far too much weight into a card's ATK when considering balance, and not enough with what it works with.

 

Ah. You are clever. Like me ;-) But, you must also consider, I know, since I have been watching the forums for some time now, that just because people are on here making cards, it doesn't mean that they actually play the game. Me for example. I have a decent understanding of the meta, but that's not the point. I don't play the game in real life. Occaisionally on YVD, but otherwise no.

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Ah. You are clever. Like me ;-) But' date=' you must also consider, I know, since I have been watching the forums for some time now, that just because people are on here making cards, it doesn't mean that they actually play the game. Me for example. I have a decent understanding of the meta, but that's not the point. I don't play the game in real life. Occaisionally on YVD, but otherwise no.

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Thanks for the comments, and I do consider it, but if those who don't play or understand the current game comment on balance, they should really learn =p

 

Any comments on the second card?

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Ah. You are clever. Like me ;-) But' date=' you must also consider, I know, since I have been watching the forums for some time now, that just because people are on here making cards, it doesn't mean that they actually play the game. Me for example. I have a decent understanding of the meta, but that's not the point. I don't play the game in real life. Occaisionally on YVD, but otherwise no.

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Thanks for the comments, and I do consider it, but if those who don't play or understand the current game comment on balance, they should really learn =p

 

Any comments on the second card?

 

Ah, yes. Now I have to be careful what I say ;-) Well, even if Tele-DAD builds are going down, this is still a D-Hero, so has many uses. It's also DARK, which also has advantages of course. It's also a Zombie, which works well with Zombies being Meta-ish right now. So yeah, at first I'd say it was UP'ed, but now I revise it, it seems quite balanced.

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Dude, great idea with the first card, but 2400 still might be a bit much... I'm trying to think of any useful combinations, and there's something nagging me about it (not for Type and Attribute, but the stats and vanilla-ness)... all I can say right now is that there is fun to be had with this guy.

 

And there's nothing wrong with "Death Defier", but I think he'd be more useful as a lvl 4 or lower monster with 1600/1600 or something.

 

I also find irony in the fact that he's probably most useful with D-Draw, which will send him to the Graveyard. (Get it? Graveyard and "Death Defier"? Hehe...)

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