Dissonance Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Not sure what you mean by worse.Still' date=' my opinion is that no, not necessarily. I can murder that guy because I hate him for banging my gf in secret; I go in, kill the guy and be done with it.Or I can kill that guy because I'm bored and it looks cool in those video games where they shoot a leg first, than the other, then an arm, then the other, then torture the guy a bit and [i']then[/i] kill him. Hatred, from that perspective, doesn't make a crime worse. Of course, hatred can lead to some heinous crimes, much worse than any other motivation - so it all depends on the context, really. I can hate one man and want him dead, or I can hate a political group in general and kill them all during a debate... It's variable, and it frequently involves varying degrees of sanity. Switch that around? If you hated-truly hated- someone, I doubt you would just go kill him. You would probably beat the sheet out of him and torture him first. Whereas, if you're just out to emulate a video game, you'd probably shoot him a couple times in the chest and jack his car. Unless your a sociopath, but I'm assuming you're not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Lovegood Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Not sure what you mean by worse.Still' date=' my opinion is that no, not necessarily. I can murder that guy because I hate him for banging my gf in secret; I go in, kill the guy and be done with it.Or I can kill that guy because I'm bored and it looks cool in those video games where they shoot a leg first, than the other, then an arm, then the other, then torture the guy a bit and [i']then[/i] kill him. Hatred, from that perspective, doesn't make a crime worse. Of course, hatred can lead to some heinous crimes, much worse than any other motivation - so it all depends on the context, really. I can hate one man and want him dead, or I can hate a political group in general and kill them all during a debate... It's variable, and it frequently involves varying degrees of sanity. Switch that around? If you hated-truly hated- someone, I doubt you would just go kill him. You would probably beat the s*** out of him and torture him first. Whereas, if you're just out to emulate a video game, you'd probably shoot him a couple times in the chest and jack his car. Unless your a sociopath, but I'm assuming you're not. but those are different crimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarbleZone Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Switch that around? If you hated-truly hated- someone' date=' I doubt you would just go kill him. You would probably beat the s*** out of him and torture him first. Whereas, if you're just out to emulate a video game, you'd probably shoot him a couple times in the chest and jack his car. Unless your a sociopath, but I'm assuming you're not.[/quote'] Like I said, completely variable. So, like I said, no, hatred doesn't necessarily make a crime worse per se. Hatred is one particular motivation for a crime. You can rob somebody's house and shoot the owner because you hate him, you're afraid he'll call the cops, he appeared suddenly and scared you, etc. Same result for various reasons. It ultimately comes down to how you manage anger, frustration and urges in general; it boils down to sanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Oleon~ Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 (And no' date=' god is not involved)[/quote']God is a pretence airbag. He should never be involved. >.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dissonance Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Switch that around? If you hated-truly hated- someone' date=' I doubt you would just go kill him. You would probably beat the s*** out of him and torture him first. Whereas, if you're just out to emulate a video game, you'd probably shoot him a couple times in the chest and jack his car. Unless your a sociopath, but I'm assuming you're not.[/quote'] Like I said, completely variable. So, like I said, no, hatred doesn't necessarily make a crime worse per se. Hatred is one particular motivation for a crime. You can rob somebody's house and shoot the owner because you hate him, you're afraid he'll call the cops, he appeared suddenly and scared you, etc. Same result for various reasons. It ultimately comes down to how you manage anger, frustration and urges in general; it boils down to sanity. In regular, non-sociopathic humans beings, a strong hate will generally lead to a more violent crime. The end results are essentially the same, but the process can vary....vastly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarbleZone Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 It will lead to a more violent crime than one out of "necessity". But any reason other than necessity will usually result in a more violent crime, the way I see it. Perhaps if you badly need money you will steal somebody's purse and not beat that guy up while you do it... But hatred isn't the only reason why you might beat the person up. I think the whole question is too vague to have a yes or no answer. There's a myriad of reasons why somebody might commit a violent crime, hatred included obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatty Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 The most horrible thing ever is to kill at random. No, killing out of hate, though of course horrible, is better than any alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 From a legal standpoint, killing someone while hating them and killing someone while not hating them is pretty much the same thing. According to current laws, at least. From a "moral" (I have no morals, so I had to put quotes) standpoint, I personally feel that hating someone makes the crime better (in a sense that it's less hurtful). Because at least you know that the offender had a shitty logical reason to kill another. It's not like "oh, I feel very evil today, let's kill YOU". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatty Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 From a legal standpoint' date=' killing someone while hating them and killing someone while not hating them is pretty much the same thing. According to current laws, at least. From a "moral" (I have no morals, so I had to put quotes) standpoint, I personally feel that hating someone makes the crime better (in a sense that it's less hurtful). Because at least you know that the offender had a shitty logical reason to kill another. It's not like "oh, I feel very evil today, let's kill YOU".[/quote'] Meh, I was merely stating that a random killer is far more dangerous because he always has the element of surprise and would kill people that don't actually know him. Also, hate killers are in some sort of "quests" that they sometimes finally accomplish, whereas random killers don't really have reasons to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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