Scatty Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Good and Evil are important things, and sometimes we should just give up the relativistic crap and simply treat something as either GOOD or EVIL. I am against all religions, but feel like order, punishment, and repention ARE needed, and that Ethics have always been important and compulsory. All thieves, murderers, liars, suiciders, anarchists and hateful and racist people must be conscious about how wrong their ways are. As for non-rape sexual intercourse/alcohol/smoking related sins, they are simply a big load of crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted February 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 I disagree with all Satanism ideaologies' date=' but I disagree with spiritual things. I dislike satanism, because it 'promotes' "Sin", or human nature. But I think that man should strive to prefect his own nature, and Satanism seems to me as rejecting progression because they think pure human nature is good, when it is not completely, and refusing to better yourself, even if bettering your self comes from kissing up to some false god, If everybody thought like a satanist, then we would be stuck in the stone age, we need something to believe in to progress as a species, which humans have, and religion civilizes people. Hypothetical Situation: God says be good, man listens, he becomes a better person. Satanist says 'no', he lives the shitty life he has, instead of creating, doing good, for a god. I am a atheist, but god in my opinion is the embodiment of progression, good, and what humans can become. inb4satanistbeliveinmakingthemselvesgod inb4textblock[/quote'] Interesting you should say that, as Christianity plunged Europe into the Dark Ages that lasted nearly 1400 years. You can be good without believing in God. Satanists don't believe in being bad, they believe in being good to themselves, but not (figuratively and literally) sacrificing others to do so. Satanists don't believe in making themselves gods, they believe that there is a god inside you that you should nurture. Then is it physically or mentally possible for you to restrain yourself from destroying what little hope someone has while nurturing that little god inside of you? Not believing in God is one thing, but denying the possibility entirely is stupid and ignorant. Uh, sure, it's possible. Anyone can do that, regardless of their religion. In fact, I'm pretty sure more religious people have destroyed people that atheists or satanists. Also, of course there is a chance there is a god. Just like there's a chance J.K. Rowling's Harry Potter series is nonfiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azmodius Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 I disagree with all Satanism ideaologies' date=' but I disagree with spiritual things. I dislike satanism, because it 'promotes' "Sin", or human nature. But I think that man should strive to prefect his own nature, and Satanism seems to me as rejecting progression because they think pure human nature is good, when it is not completely, and refusing to better yourself, even if bettering your self comes from kissing up to some false god, If everybody thought like a satanist, then we would be stuck in the stone age, we need something to believe in to progress as a species, which humans have, and religion civilizes people. Hypothetical Situation: God says be good, man listens, he becomes a better person. Satanist says 'no', he lives the shitty life he has, instead of creating, doing good, for a god. I am a atheist, but god in my opinion is the embodiment of progression, good, and what humans can become. inb4satanistbeliveinmakingthemselvesgod inb4textblock[/quote'] Interesting you should say that, as Christianity plunged Europe into the Dark Ages that lasted nearly 1400 years. You can be good without believing in God. Satanists don't believe in being bad, they believe in being good to themselves, but not (figuratively and literally) sacrificing others to do so. Satanists don't believe in making themselves gods, they believe that there is a god inside you that you should nurture. Well, good. I thought it was more pessimistic. Well, it seems reasonable. I respect Satanism, but I don't fully agree with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 Extreme atheism is just as dumb as extreme theism. Your posts are almost always about religion in some shape or form and it's pretty annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted February 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Extreme atheism is just as dumb as extreme theism. Your posts are almost always about religion in some shape or form and it's pretty annoying. How exactly is extreme atheism 'just as dumb as' extreme theism? Also, define 'extreme atheism'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Extreme atheism is just as dumb as extreme theism. Your posts are almost always about religion in some shape or form and it's pretty annoying. How exactly is extreme atheism 'just as dumb as' extreme theism? Also' date=' define 'extreme atheism'.[/quote']For someone who really doesn't believe in something you sure spend a lot of time trying to beat it down. One of the things found annoying with religion is the people that try pressing their beliefs, and that's essentially what an extreme atheist does. Extreme atheism is essentially like the religious guy that needs to constantly remind you of their religion, except he's always telling you about how christians are dumb and religion is stupid when you really don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JoshIcy Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Extreme atheism is just as dumb as extreme theism. Your posts are almost always about religion in some shape or form and it's pretty annoying. How exactly is extreme atheism 'just as dumb as' extreme theism? Also' date=' define 'extreme atheism'.[/quote']For someone who really doesn't believe in something you sure spend a lot of time trying to beat it down. One of the things found annoying with religion is the people that try pressing their beliefs, and that's essentially what an extreme atheist does. Extreme atheism is essentially like the religious guy that needs to constantly remind you of their religion, except he's always telling you about how christians are dumb and religion is stupid when you really don't care. <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatty Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Extreme atheism is just as dumb as extreme theism. Your posts are almost always about religion in some shape or form and it's pretty annoying. How exactly is extreme atheism 'just as dumb as' extreme theism? Also' date=' define 'extreme atheism'.[/quote']For someone who really doesn't believe in something you sure spend a lot of time trying to beat it down. One of the things found annoying with religion is the people that try pressing their beliefs, and that's essentially what an extreme atheist does. Extreme atheism is essentially like the religious guy that needs to constantly remind you of their religion, except he's always telling you about how christians are dumb and religion is stupid when you really don't care. Yup, you can mindf*ck people like that, OR have the A symbol in your avatar. Hence mine!Extreme atheism is just as dumb as extreme theism. Your posts are almost always about religion in some shape or form and it's pretty annoying. How exactly is extreme atheism 'just as dumb as' extreme theism? Also' date=' define 'extreme atheism'.[/quote']For someone who really doesn't believe in something you sure spend a lot of time trying to beat it down. One of the things found annoying with religion is the people that try pressing their beliefs, and that's essentially what an extreme atheist does. Extreme atheism is essentially like the religious guy that needs to constantly remind you of their religion, except he's always telling you about how christians are dumb and religion is stupid when you really don't care. <3 You're not banning this YET? OMG, that's an improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 It's Icyblue, he bans whoever he wants. <3 All thieves, murderers, liars, suiciders, anarchists and hateful and racist people must be conscious about how wrong their ways are. Explain bolded, now. Suiciding is not a crime (and if it is, that's bullshit and stupid). And lying is "bad", but also not a crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatty Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 It's Icyblue' date=' he bans whoever he wants.[/s'] <3 All thieves, murderers, liars, suiciders, anarchists and hateful and racist people must be conscious about how wrong their ways are. Explain bolded, now. Suiciding is not a crime (and if it is, that's bullshit and stupid). And lying is "bad", but also not a crime. I never said it's a crime, I simply said it is wrong! And commiting suicide is also wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 order, punishment, and repention ARE needed Why would I have punishment or be forced to repent for suiciding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatty Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 order' date=' punishment, and repention ARE needed[/i'] Why would I have punishment or be forced to repent for suiciding? That means that if you want to commit suicide and some policemen succeed in stopping you before it's too late, they shouldn't let you go after one or two sessions of psychological therapy, they should lock you up in a mental illness hospital for a long long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Not at all. If I was trying to commit suicide but I fail like a retard and the cops catch me, I personally feel I should be let go. As long as I don't kill anyone else it's none of their business what I do with my life. Otherwise they'd mandate going to school so everyone gets a good edumacation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatty Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 Not at all. If I was trying to commit suicide but I fail like a retard and the cops catch me' date=' I personally feel I should be let go. As long as I don't kill anyone else it's none of their business what I do with my life. Otherwise they'd mandate going to school so everyone gets a good edumacation.[/quote'] School IS mandatory in some regions. And that's a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 I embrace my flaws, that's what makes me a person. Icyblue is evil, he's a Mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Not at all. If I was trying to commit suicide but I fail like a retard and the cops catch me' date=' I personally feel I should be let go. As long as I don't kill anyone else it's none of their business what I do with my life. Otherwise they'd mandate going to school so everyone gets a good edumacation.[/quote'] School IS mandatory in some regions. And that's a good thing. Sorry, I meant college. If they wanted us to have a good life and grow up to be succsessful, they'd mandate college just like they are stopping us from suiciding. The government has NO RIGHT to tell me I cannot injure myself. They can only say I cannot injure others. =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatty Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 If you suicide, that CONSUMES resources. First, your parent's resources for uselessly taking care of you. Second, the states resources for it having to make a report and then dispense of your body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 What's your underlying point again? It's not making much sense. It's not like 50% of the world suicides in a day and we need to evacuate everyone from New Mexico to dump all the bodies. =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatty Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Just because the economical damage is low, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 I still don't understand your point. Care to explain it again with different words? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatty Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Unexisting God damn it, I submit and resign. Let suicidal be damn legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Unexisting God damn it' date=' I submit and resign. Let suicidal be damn legal.[/quote'] No, you don't have to give in. I am just not understanding your point fully. Can you explain again? 3: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Lol, illegal suicide. :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Lol' date=' illegal suicide. :S[/quote'] More than that, I lol at them eventually putting a dead guy in jail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted February 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Extreme atheism is just as dumb as extreme theism. Your posts are almost always about religion in some shape or form and it's pretty annoying. How exactly is extreme atheism 'just as dumb as' extreme theism? Also' date=' define 'extreme atheism'.[/quote']For someone who really doesn't believe in something you sure spend a lot of time trying to beat it down. One of the things found annoying with religion is the people that try pressing their beliefs, and that's essentially what an extreme atheist does. Extreme atheism is essentially like the religious guy that needs to constantly remind you of their religion, except he's always telling you about how christians are dumb and religion is stupid when you really don't care. Have you seriously not realized I'm trolling? I'm astounded. I do all this religion bashing because I'm trolling. I'm not pressing my atheistic ideals on anyone, I'm making fun of the religious. All thieves, murderers, liars, suiciders, anarchists and hateful and racist people must be conscious about how wrong their ways are. Dunno who said this, but can you explain to me how thievery, murder, lying, suicide, anarchy, hate, and racism are morally wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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