Aximil Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 No it is not. That deck mixes too much stuff and is full of clutter. Your deck is bad. Don't give the thread creator bad hints that won't help. AT Thread creator: Make either the blue eyes or the red eyes builds. they don't work together too often or at all in most cases. No it is not. That deck mixes too much stuff and is full of clutter. Your deck is bad. Don't give the thread creator bad hints that won't help. AT Thread creator: Make either the blue eyes or the red eyes builds. they don't work together too often or at all in most cases. first of all this is an aggro deck not a dragon deck so he can mix them and also white stone of Legend is a tuner and for stardust it goes well with red-eyes for the tune-up so he needs red-eyes or a lv4+a lv3 and sangan would be the best but he has too few weak monsters for that so i say red-eyes works best for that Stop being bad at the game and go away. We're helping superandrew99 get better' date=' not worse.[/quote'] i do well at turnys so i know how to play thank you verry much and i know how to build a deck so i wont go away and i will continue to give my great advise like how he is not using a theme deck it is an aggro deck so you stop trying to get him to have a theme aggro decks need no theme aggro decks are not very good most of the time but, i have dueld vs. a deck simmiler many times, i have a friend who runs an aggro deck and i used to have my own, i have also seen my friend use it at turnys and it is an anoying deck to duel and tends to average 1 out of 2 duels vs. every one he duels even the blackwings and lightsworns as a matter of fact he has seen this guy's deck and the 2 decks look almost identacal to him even the guys who do better then my friend and i at the turnys say it is good I simply don't believe you. There's no way you and your friends could win so consistantly with such horrible decks. And even aggro decks require a theme. Also, those supposed Blackwing and Lightsworn duelists must have been horrible at the game and just netdecked or were running them completely wrong. You cannot and will not beat a tier 1 deck with a deck like that. And one more thing. You said it won 1 out of every 2 duels. A good deck should win 9 at least 9 out of every 10 duels. i am not saying it could go to nationals i think with a little work it could though and on average we only have maby 10 people if that at the local turnys and they know what they are doing because the blackwing decks there can swarm themselves to a full field in 1 to 2 turns And then easily finish you in those 2 turns, stopping everything you do and killing your entire field, attacking for game. nope not with the right cards in the deck you see there are some blackwing killer cards and they are not hard to get i own like 5 i think There are a ton of different "blackwing killer cards". But a lot are bad and can easily be avoided or played around. But either way, you're advise is terrible. Once you start topping in large tournaments or at least understand how to make decent deck with a theme, you will be a horrible duelist. There is no way around that fact. thread creator this guy seems to build with skill not heart and you need both to build a good deck because you can have all the skill in the world and your deck could still suck because you over think and loose the real abillaty to think but, if you use heart you can duel with what ever hand you are given belive me i have tryed both ways and i find that seeing is not always beliving so you build your deck with skill and heart and you can use any cards you have in your hand to keep your self alive because the skill will make sure you have the cards you need but your heart will help you know things that are not alwayse the most obviuse things so you can use the cards right, you see with heart comes knowlege and with that comes skill but with out the heart being there the knowlege will fade and then the skill will fade as well and i know that this sounds like something from the tv show but, it is true i have had to find that out the hard way You're a Yugi/Jaden/Yusei fanboy. It's not heart that allows you to see the plays that aren't always obvious, it's skill. It allows you to be able to see every possible way a card could be played because you know how other cards interact with it and what cards you opponent could be running depending on their build. And you won't be needing to keep yourself alive if you build a good deck because you would have already beaten your opponent. i am no fanboy for your info and without wanting too or as i called it heart you would not have learned all of that now would youyou kiaba fanboy First of all, you were saying exactly what Yugi/Jaden/Yusei say except in a different context. Second of all, heart is useless. What you're saying is that if a 4 year old has enough heart, he can take on a professional sports team and win. And third, what I am saying is nothing like what Kaiba says. kiaba does not belive in heart either genius and no a 4 year old could not do that but a 4 year old could go to the yugioh world championship and win you see with the heart they can learn how to use the cards creating skill and with a big enough wallet they can build a deck that would win 1st place you see skill has to start with wanting to learn and some might call that heart like i did, it's like if you are on a team , i'll go back to your sports thing, you can win the game ok but, your just not in the game because your mind is not there you are burned out and your mind is wandering. will you make the shot? the answar is no. If it makes me Kaiba by not believing in the heart of the cards, then you believing in it makes you Yugi/Jaden/Yusei. And no he can't. They don't have the brain power to strategize as well as most older players, especially against anyone with skill. And about this, "it's like if you are on a team , i'll go back to your sports thing, you can win the game ok but, your just not in the game because your mind is not there you are burned out and your mind is wandering. will you make the shot? the answar is no.", the majority of the world is doing this daily. They're doing their jobs even though they may hate them. They're not just going to stop doing their job and lose their house and everything else because "their mind isn't in it". you have some good points but, i have dueld a kid who was maby 5 or six and this kid knew just about every thing about yugioh and by the way that deck i posted was the tc's deck with some changes, just thought i should menchon that because i copied it i did know how to quote at the time also if you are so good at this game prove it i know a way to duel online for free and no personal info will be shared it is totaly safe i do it all the timeWhenever I try to download an online dueling system of any kind, I get that error. I have been challenged many times and use that image to prove I'm not back out. And I won't duel over an instant messanger because it's too easy too cheat. Just follow LuffyLaxer's advice and stop making it harder for us to help out superandrew99. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbzdbz11 Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 it is not an online dueling system have you ever heard of teamspeak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuffyLaxer Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 You mean yugioh network? I duel you there then? oN topic: TC what type of deck do you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aximil Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 it is not an online dueling system have you ever heard of teamspeak Yes I have. A few of my friend's on Warcraft III wanted me to download it so we could have an advantage in clan matches but I wasn't able to download it. EDIT: Aximil i still want to run the BEWD and Montage dragon cards' date=' do you have any suggestions on the spells and traps i can replace the current cards with? i don't want the deck to be too dragon heavy, just in case of buster blader. do you find anything wrong with using D-hero defender?[/quote'] Hope that answers your question, Luffy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbzdbz11 Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 it is not an online dueling system have you ever heard of teamspeak Yes I have. A few of my friend's on Warcraft III wanted me to download it so we could have an advantage in clan matches but I wasn't able to download it. oh too bad well i will just have to keep giving advise and well i will just give better and better advisetc add 1 or 2 ultimate offerings to help you swarm the field it may cost life points but it is the best continuas way to swarm without monster effects eg: blackwingscan anyone think of a less costly way to swarmcan anyone think of a less costly way to swarmsorry that last one is on twicedouble summon is good but you can only use it once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aximil Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 it is not an online dueling system have you ever heard of teamspeak Yes I have. A few of my friend's on Warcraft III wanted me to download it so we could have an advantage in clan matches but I wasn't able to download it. oh too bad well i will just have to keep giving advise and well i will just give better and better advisetc add 1 or 2 ultimate offerings to help you swarm the field it may cost life points but it is the best continuas way to swarm without monster effects eg: blackwingscan anyone think of a less costly way to swarmcan anyone think of a less costly way to swarmsorry that last one is on twicedouble summon is good but you can only use it once Now you're just purposely trying to make his deck worse. This section is to help make decks better. I'm giving you a fair warning. Keep it up and I will neg you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbzdbz11 Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 how can he beat blackwings without a blackwing killer if he has no way to swarmi am seriouse you tell me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aximil Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 Anti-meta decks are the only decks that should be running cards to counter the more popular decks. The top tier decks (Twilight, Zombies, Plants, Lightsworns, Gladiator Beasts, Blackwings, etc; etc; ) all have so much aggression that they don't need to focus on countering certain decktypes because they overwhelm their opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbzdbz11 Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 ok well what if the tc does'nt want those deck types what then no other deck types can beat the current meta they are too power full tc do you want those decks or would you rather have an aggro deck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aximil Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 It's either a meta deck, an anti-meta deck(which can losely incorperate most non-meta decks that have a theme), or a non-themed pile of garbage that can't stand up to either. The best chance he would have with an "aggro" deck is a Skilless Beatdown. Which could be classified as an anti-meta deck. You need a theme to win in todays format. And he has already stated that he wants a deck revolving around Montage Dragon and/or Blue-Eyes White Dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superandrew99 Posted March 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 the reason i use such "random cards" as you put it is that it tends to keep an opponent guessing. so maybe someone can suggest certain cards that are good in just about any deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbzdbz11 Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 thats fine but, that my not be enough for 1 theme but it is enough for 2 themes and that is an aggro deck because he could use Montage Dragon and/or Blue-Eyes White Dragon for beat down then have no more dragons in his deck so it is not a dragon deck it is an aggro deck becaus an aggro deck is just a modified beatdown deck also beatdown decks have no theme eitherand tc these guys can't do that they require a theme while you don'ttc they can't understand how we used to duel in the old days because they either forgot or have not been playing that long so tc we are a dying breed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aximil Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 They're called staples. They're easily splashed into any deck (or at least 95%) of decks because they're good and don't have to rely on certain cards. Most decks have a large amount of staples in them. If you'd please, go here and look through the deck types. Not just A-C.http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Deck_Types:_A-C Or, if you'd like to play with a certain archetype of cards (cards that were realesed and designed specifically to go together like the Lightsworns and other decks) go here.http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Archetype(There are two pages to that one. But not many are on the second page.) Pick as many as you'd like and come back with the list. I will (and anyone else that happens to come along) can help you narrow it down to 1 as the deck you would most like to use. Then someone can give you a basic decklist for that specific deck. EDIT:thats fine but' date=' that my not be enough for 1 theme but it is enough for 2 themes and that is an aggro deck because he could use Montage Dragon and/or Blue-Eyes White Dragon for beat down then have no more dragons in his deck so it is not a dragon deck it is an aggro deck becaus an aggro deck is just a modified beatdown deck also beatdown decks have no theme either[hr']and tc these guys can't do that they require a theme while you don'ttc they can't understand how we used to duel in the old days because they either forgot or have not been playing that long so tc we are a dying breed Beatdown decks do have themes. And I've been playing since the hour of the first release in the United States. A theme is what makes a deck good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superandrew99 Posted March 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 i have friends at the local hobby shop who have seen what my deck is like and are also trying to help me build it into one that works with my personality, in fact a few people feel that it can be very good with the right type of hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aximil Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 i have friends at the local hobby shop who have seen what my deck is like and are also trying to help me build it into one that works with my personality' date=' in fact a few people feel that it can be very good with the right type of hand.[/quote'] But as I've stated, it won't stand up to an anti-meta or a meta deck. I'm also trying to help you find a deck that fits your personality. That's why I gave you those links in my previous post. I still play with my favorite deck quite often even though it isn't anti-meta or meta simply because I like the way it plays. But it has a theme and I'm constantly trying to think of ways to make it better so that it can one day get out to the meta rank. (If you're curious as to what type of deck I'm talking about, it's Crystal Beasts.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superandrew99 Posted March 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 if i go with a theme that where BEWD and Montage are at the core of the monster selection, and i keep the different forms of yubel for montage what other monsters would be good to use till i get them out?i'm also working on a semi decent sacred beast deck and i'll post that later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aximil Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 If you want to run Montage, BEWD, and the Yubels, I suggest not running them all together. BEWD decks don't mix very well with most decks except Hopeless Dragon. And Yubel decks are better off on their own. But if you insist on running all 3 different types together, go with White Stone of Legend (it's a Tuner so you can Synchro and it adds BEWD to your hand for Montage) and The Calculator because you'll be running a lot of high level monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e.x.l.t. Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 I really think you should scrap the Majestic dragon at least, and run starlight road as protection from torrential, Mirror Force and heavy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 thats fine but' date=' that my not be enough for 1 theme but it is enough for 2 themes and that is an aggro deck because he could use Montage Dragon and/or Blue-Eyes White Dragon for beat down then have no more dragons in his deck so it is not a dragon deck it is an aggro deck becaus an aggro deck is just a modified beatdown deck also beatdown decks have no theme either[hr']and tc these guys can't do that they require a theme while you don'ttc they can't understand how we used to duel in the old days because they either forgot or have not been playing that long so tc we are a dying breed Gtfo now. Please. Learn how to spell, learn to actally have decent grammer and learn how to play this game. The old days non-theme decks were actally kinda good. Now there a pile of junk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e.x.l.t. Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 I just realized dbz doesn't use full stops... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aximil Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 thats fine but' date=' that my not be enough for 1 theme but it is enough for 2 themes and that is an aggro deck because he could use Montage Dragon and/or Blue-Eyes White Dragon for beat down then have no more dragons in his deck so it is not a dragon deck it is an aggro deck becaus an aggro deck is just a modified beatdown deck also beatdown decks have no theme either[hr']and tc these guys can't do that they require a theme while you don'ttc they can't understand how we used to duel in the old days because they either forgot or have not been playing that long so tc we are a dying breed Gtfo now. Please. Learn how to spell, learn to actally have decent grammar and learn how to play this game. The old days non-theme decks were actally kinda good. Now there a pile of junk. You should read our whole quoting argument. It's hilarious. EDIT: I fixed where you said grammer. It should have said grammar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavv10 Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 I luv you guis xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aximil Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 I luv you guis xD Even me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e.x.l.t. Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 thats fine but' date=' that my not be enough for 1 theme but it is enough for 2 themes and that is an aggro deck because he could use Montage Dragon and/or Blue-Eyes White Dragon for beat down then have no more dragons in his deck so it is not a dragon deck it is an aggro deck becaus an aggro deck is just a modified beatdown deck also beatdown decks have no theme either[hr']and tc these guys can't do that they require a theme while you don'ttc they can't understand how we used to duel in the old days because they either forgot or have not been playing that long so tc we are a dying breed Gtfo now. Please. Learn how to spell, learn to actally have decent grammar and learn how to play this game. The old days non-theme decks were actally kinda good. Now there a pile of junk. You should read our whole quoting argument. It's hilarious. EDIT: I fixed where you said grammer. It should have said grammar. You should have fixed 'actually' and 'they're' as well :D And they should put a limit to the number of posts you can quote within a quote... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aximil Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 thats fine but' date=' that my not be enough for 1 theme but it is enough for 2 themes and that is an aggro deck because he could use Montage Dragon and/or Blue-Eyes White Dragon for beat down then have no more dragons in his deck so it is not a dragon deck it is an aggro deck becaus an aggro deck is just a modified beatdown deck also beatdown decks have no theme either[hr']and tc these guys can't do that they require a theme while you don'ttc they can't understand how we used to duel in the old days because they either forgot or have not been playing that long so tc we are a dying breed Gtfo now. Please. Learn how to spell, learn to actally have decent grammar and learn how to play this game. The old days non-theme decks were actally kinda good. Now there a pile of junk. You should read our whole quoting argument. It's hilarious. EDIT: I fixed where you said grammer. It should have said grammar. You should have fixed 'actually' and 'they're' as well :D And they should put a limit to the number of posts you can quote within a quote... Grammar being spelt with an e is more annoying. And I think that it shouldn't have a limit. Just that it should automatically be spoilered after a certain amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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