Guest Chaos Pudding Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Congress is debating on it. What are you thoughts? And if you're just going to parrot what you heard from your parents or Faux News, then don't bother posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyfe. Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 I hate it. I really really hate it. If you can't pay for it, you get fined $2,000. If they can't pay it, they obviously don't have money. And isn't the government excused from it? I hate Obama with all my life. I HATE AMERICA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 I hate it. I really really hate it. If you can't pay for it' date=' you get fined $2,000. [b']Source?[/b] And isn't the government excused from it? False. Seriously, if you're going to make claims like that, then back them up. Otherwise, don't make them. And Joker, next time I see you spamming in one of my precious threads, I'm warning you. ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Congress is debating on it. What are you thoughts? And if you're just going to parrot what you heard from your parents or Faux News' date=' then don't bother posting.[/quote'] Honestly, I don't care. It doesn't really affect my family all too much anyways, and being the selfish bastard I am, I don't care much about others. Does that mean I want it to fail? No, not really. But I don't care and it won't change how I feel about anything politically. And I promise that was not copy/pasta from my parents and I (obviously) did not steal that from ze dumbass channel. I hate it. I really really hate it. If you can't pay for it' date=' you get fined $2,000. If they can't pay it, they obviously don't have money. And isn't the government excused from it? I hate Obama with all my life. I HATE AMERICA[/quote'] Obama was okay 1st year of presidency. He's kind of going downhill for me, though. And McCain would not have been any better. He'd fuck things up more. And I hate America, too. But I don't profoundly state it in CAPS LOCK to make a point. I wanted Candy the Magic Dinosaur to be President. Whatever. He never ran for president. But I'd vote for him, for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyfe. Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 I hate it. I really really hate it. If you can't pay for it' date=' you get fined $2,000. [b']Source?[/b] And isn't the government excused from it? False. Seriously, if you're going to make claims like that, then back them up. Otherwise, don't make them. Are we on two different pages here? You are forced to pay for Health Care. If you don't, you are fined. If you can't pay for it, then you can't pay the fine, or along those lines. And uh, I just watched the news. People who are helping pass the law were excused from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 I hate it. I really really hate it. If you can't pay for it' date=' you get fined $2,000. [b']Source?[/b] And isn't the government excused from it? False. Seriously, if you're going to make claims like that, then back them up. Otherwise, don't make them. Are we on two different pages here? You are forced to pay for Health Care. If you don't, you are fined. If you can't pay for it, then you can't pay the fine, or along those lines. And uh, I just watched the news. People who are helping pass the law were excused from it. You aren't forced to do anything. It will save you loads of money in the long run if you get health insurance, but the reform won't force you one way or another. And the news you watched was incorrect. There was never a provision in the bill to exempt Congress, nor has there been any vote for any other bill that would do the same. Out of curiosity, was it a major cable news channel that you watched, or was it local news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyfe. Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 I believe it was local news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 DEAF PANLZ SOCALZM WHATEVER OBAMA SAYS I BELIEVE THE OPPOSITE MARKET FORCES SOLVE ALL THE WORLDS PROBLEMS DOWN WITH THE GOVERNMENT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 DEAF PANLZ SOCALZM WHATEVER OBAMA SAYS I BELIEVE THE OPPOSITE MARKET FORCES SOLVE ALL THE WORLDS PROBLEMS DOWN WITH THE GOVERNMENT Insightful as always, salty. Now do you mind actually posting your actual thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 DEAF PANLZ SOCALZM WHATEVER OBAMA SAYS I BELIEVE THE OPPOSITE MARKET FORCES SOLVE ALL THE WORLDS PROBLEMS DOWN WITH THE GOVERNMENT Yeah, I understood all of that except 'DEAF PANLZ'. Someone care to explain? x_x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 DEAF PANLZ SOCALZM WHATEVER OBAMA SAYS I BELIEVE THE OPPOSITE MARKET FORCES SOLVE ALL THE WORLDS PROBLEMS DOWN WITH THE GOVERNMENT Yeah' date=' I understood all of that except 'DEAF PANLZ'. Someone care to explain? x_x[/quote'] Death panels. Some people erroneously believe that the health care reform will bring with it government-run panels that decide when people are no longer worth giving health care to, and therefor which members of society die due to lack of health care. Needless to say, this is total bull****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Insightful as always' date=' salty. Now do you mind actually posting your actual thoughts?[/quote'] There is nothing to debate. The current system is horribly broken and the reforms improve things, so you pass the reforms even if they aren't absolutely perfect. Especially since the results of the Clinton administration's efforts show that failing to pass a healthcare reform bill shuts down all discussion of healthcare reform for the next fifteen years, which is plainly unacceptable. Also, those four things I listed are the only "arguments" against the bill that I've seen, so unless some people have come up with well-reasoned logical arguments against the bill and decided to drop them in favour of the usual Republican nonsense, I can only assume that well-reasoned logical arguments against the bill simply have never been constructed at all, and so there is no reason not so support the bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 DEAF PANLZ SOCALZM WHATEVER OBAMA SAYS I BELIEVE THE OPPOSITE MARKET FORCES SOLVE ALL THE WORLDS PROBLEMS DOWN WITH THE GOVERNMENT Yeah' date=' I understood all of that except 'DEAF PANLZ'. Someone care to explain? x_x[/quote'] Death panels. Some people erroneously believe that the health care reform will bring with it government-run panels that decide when people are no longer worth giving health care to, and therefor which members of society die due to lack of health care. Needless to say, this is total bull****. I always thought death panels are for those old people who have a terminal disease and are asked whether they want to die or not. But what you just said is major bullshit. Do Republicans have any sort of brain? Even if it's microscopic, I'll feel better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Oh, wait, I guess I've seen a fifth "argument" against healthcare reform now: "It will fine people who can't afford to pay!". Thank you, YCM, for proving to be even stupider than the mainstream Republicans. You must be so proud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 And it just passed in the House. 219 to 212. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 I hate every single government official in the world. They're self-centered and bad to the bone. That's what humans are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 I hate every single government official in the world. They're self-centered and bad to the bone. That's what humans are. What does that have to do with the issue at hand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoDemonX Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Why can't you people see that Universal health care is good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 The health care bill was cannibalized by teh republicans a long time ago. Not even a public option anymore. Still, it's better than what we've got, and hopefully it will represent a trend in progressive health care reform in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 ALL PEOPLE WITH BLACK HAIR ARE EVIL BECAUSE HITLER HAD BLACK HAIR. And I hate America' date=' too. But I don't profoundly state it in CAPS LOCK to make a point.[/quote'] FRAIL WEAKLING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoDemonX Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 ^ Polaris why do you hate Universal health care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 Not sure how you got that from my post but sure, I'll play along. I hate universal health care because it means crashing bores and uniformed whores live longer with fewer afflictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoDemonX Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 Not sure how you got that from my post but sure' date=' I'll play along. I hate universal health care because it means crashing bores and uniformed whores live longer with fewer afflictions.[/quote'] Lol At least the Insurance companys can't deny anyone and thats a good thing, also yes the news of this is in Canada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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