Anti-Meta and Support-Meta? WTF? [Oleon]

[~Oleon~]

[align=center]Guanta. Elroro.

It means: Winged Satan.

As you will see here.

 

I was making this and thought crazy. I actually made a support card for the cards its anti-ing. o_O

 

Say both you AND your opponents are running Blackwings. Its level gets increased like mad and you can get a Godly "The Calculator". So Godly that Godly needs a capital "G".

 

It fits into Necroface and DD Decks, because it can be removed instead of going to the Grave, getting out a "Escape to the Dark Dimension" to get it back out again to strike fear into your opponent.

 

It stops attacks to let burns flow.

You can use DNA Surgery to make them all Winged-Beast Type. Simorghs have to stand away from it because when they get on the field, this does also~

 

Without any further ado, I present to you...

[spoiler=[color=#DDA0DD]Guanta Elroro[/color]]

Lore:

If a player Special Summons a Winged-Beast-Type monster, you may Special Summon this card from your hand. As long as this card is face-up on the field, all Winged Beast-Type monsters can't attack. If the effect of a "Blackwing" monster activates, you can increase this cards Level by 1. If this card is used for the Tribute Summon of a Winged Beast-Type monster, you can remove this card from play instead of it being sent to the Graveyard.

 

 

[spoiler=[color=#8B4513]Guanta Trilifad[/color]]

 

I believe Lore is readable - if not, request it.

 

 

 

As always, the Image Credit is to my dear friend HP Doom. We love ya, dude. ;D

 

Rate/Hate/Enjoy/Employ

 

Dammit, every time I make a Single Card thread it ends up turning into a set. So now I need an Intro for it.

*sighs*

 

The Guantas are cards based on the DARK Attribute, and are Winged Beast. Like an altered, more original version of Blackwings with added effects on their effects. They run around blocking and appearing at your opponents Special Summons, and have mild swarm abilities to get your right cards out. Having making your opponent and you have no way of attacking, chances to peform your OTKs are high - getting the right Stall Power you need. Anyways, I hope you enjoy the set!

:D

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[-DOOM]

I don't like that the 3rd effect is so specialized on BW. And i don't get it why i should remove it from play when i tributed it.... can you explain me please?^^

OCG fix:

may = can

can't = cannot

 

But it's pretty nice. I <3 the first 2 effects, these damn BW deserved an Anti-Support >=]

[~Oleon~]

Hell yeah. D:<

Zeo will hate this thread.

The pic is epic too. ^^

 

Thanks for the OCG, I will change it later.

For being removed - DDs.

It can give you an instant comeback with DNA Surgery - if they are about to win the duel, flip up an Escape to the Dark Dimension and it puts them at a standstill. Its like an eradicating weapon of peace to Antis.

[-DOOM]

Now i understand. It's pretty pro IMO. Nice job mate ;]

 

lolspam and + 1 post count xD

[~Oleon~]

Thanks, I hope it isn't OPed. I seem to be finding it harder and harder to make it balanced - first its OPed and then UPed. >.<

 

It makes both players go standstill whilst they collect their strategies - and you will be most likely to move. Say put on a Caius show with this, Return from the Dark Dimension summoning Guanta Elroro, tribute it with Caius' effect, takes 1000, and then you can let your strategies go. Fun, fun fun.

 

Could you make an older version of the pic so I can make Guonata Eridados?

The basically next form of this card. ^^

[-DOOM]

Actually i can xD It's a miracle, usually i don't have 2 renders that look related to each other.

[-Griffin]

Seems a little lackluster, since I don't know any Winged-Beast-Type Decks that Special Summon without this missing timing and actually need tributes. BW don't tributes, Dragunity miss timing with this if they SS a Winged-Beast.

 

Yeah, nice idea, but doesn't actually work anywhere =/

DNA Surgery is too inconsistent to use with this.

[~Oleon~]

I know - but Scroll of Bewitchment wouldn't work here - would it?

 

And what about Sirroco. Blackwings normally swarm and get him later, tribute it and then power up the BWs like crazy. This stops them in their tracks.

 

And Dragunity is...?

[-DOOM]

Seems a little lackluster' date=' since I don't know any Winged-Beast-Type Decks that Special Summon without this missing timing and actually need tributes. BW don't tributes, Dragunity miss timing with this if they SS a Winged-Beast.

 

Yeah, nice idea, but doesn't actually work anywhere =/

DNA Surgery is too inconsistent to use with this.

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I'm not sure, and please don't be too harsh when this is wrong, but i think a "If" phrase never misses the timing.

 

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Missing_the_Timing

[-Griffin]

Dragunity is a huge archtype that is getting their own Structure Deck.

That's the sort of thing you REALLY need to know when making cards, they're a fairly competitive Dragon/Winged-Beast Archtype that might get somewhere in the meta with the support from the SD they're getting.

 

And Scroll is inconsistent, so no.

And a good player wouldn't want to tribute for Sirroco unless they were desperate. saving cards for later is good. If they really needed to tribute it, they'd be better off to use Jester Confit =/

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Seems a little lackluster' date=' since I don't know any Winged-Beast-Type Decks that Special Summon without this missing timing and actually need tributes. BW don't tributes, Dragunity miss timing with this if they SS a Winged-Beast.

 

Yeah, nice idea, but doesn't actually work anywhere =/

DNA Surgery is too inconsistent to use with this.

[/quote']

 

I'm not sure, and please don't be too harsh when this is wrong, but i think a "If" phrase never misses the timing.

 

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Missing_the_Timing

 

Not sure, but it doesn't change that it isn't very runnable.

[-DOOM]

Seems a little lackluster' date=' since I don't know any Winged-Beast-Type Decks that Special Summon without this missing timing and actually need tributes. BW don't tributes, Dragunity miss timing with this if they SS a Winged-Beast.

 

Yeah, nice idea, but doesn't actually work anywhere =/

DNA Surgery is too inconsistent to use with this.

[/quote']

 

I'm not sure, and please don't be too harsh when this is wrong, but i think a "If" phrase never misses the timing.

 

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Missing_the_Timing

 

It can miss. The effect is optional. Anything from the hand always will be able to miss.

 

ok, thank you for telling me. Man, i still have to learn so much O_O

[-Griffin]

Seems a little lackluster' date=' since I don't know any Winged-Beast-Type Decks that Special Summon without this missing timing and actually need tributes. BW don't tributes, Dragunity miss timing with this if they SS a Winged-Beast.

 

Yeah, nice idea, but doesn't actually work anywhere =/

DNA Surgery is too inconsistent to use with this.

[/quote']

 

I'm not sure, and please don't be too harsh when this is wrong, but i think a "If" phrase never misses the timing.

 

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Missing_the_Timing

 

It can miss. The effect is optional. Anything from the hand always will be able to miss.

 

ok, thank you for telling me. Man, i still have to learn so much O_O

 

Actually, edited that post, you might be right on this one. "If" seems to be quite rare =/ It's never come up for me before.

[Guest Zeonark]

And what about Sirroco. Blackwings normally swarm and get him later' date=' tribute it and then power up the BWs like crazy. This stops them in their tracks.

[/quote']

 

Blackwings don't Tribute. Sirocco is basically their Cyber Dragon.

 

What I don't understand is, if you're going to involve Blackwings in it's effect, why not just make it a- never mind. It could work with Gale, SS it and use it's effect to make this a Level 4 and then sync into Goyo or Brio. And maybe Normal Summon Blizzard, use it's effect for an extra level. Making BRD and Armor Master available.

 

Good enough for it's other stuff. It's Winged Beast attack blocking kinda killed it for just me though.

[~Oleon~]

Thats right. I just killed your Deck. D:<

 

And you were saying Special Summon this with Blizzard:

Notice where it says:

"Level 4 or lower Blackwing monster from your Graveyard."

Exactly. This also stops it from being used in a Zombie Deck for the opponent to get their hands on with Zombie World. This card can drive them MAD. They can chase it but never get it. :D

 

You also said about Gale.

...*thinks of how it stops it*

I sware I had put in a thing where it stops BWs effects for a cost. o_O

[-DOOM]

Dragunity is a huge archtype that is getting their own Structure Deck.

That's the sort of thing you REALLY need to know when making cards' date=' they're a fairly competitive Dragon/Winged-Beast Archtype that might get somewhere in the meta with the support from the SD they're getting.

 

And Scroll is inconsistent, so no.

And a good player wouldn't want to tribute for Sirroco unless they were desperate. saving cards for later is good. If they really needed to tribute it, they'd be better off to use Jester Confit =/[hr']

Seems a little lackluster' date=' since I don't know any Winged-Beast-Type Decks that Special Summon without this missing timing and actually need tributes. BW don't tributes, Dragunity miss timing with this if they SS a Winged-Beast.

 

Yeah, nice idea, but doesn't actually work anywhere =/

DNA Surgery is too inconsistent to use with this.

[/quote']

 

I'm not sure, and please don't be too harsh when this is wrong, but i think a "If" phrase never misses the timing.

 

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Missing_the_Timing

 

Not sure, but it doesn't change that it isn't very runnable.

 

Would it be good in the Side Deck?

[-Griffin]

Dragunity is a huge archtype that is getting their own Structure Deck.

That's the sort of thing you REALLY need to know when making cards' date=' they're a fairly competitive Dragon/Winged-Beast Archtype that might get somewhere in the meta with the support from the SD they're getting.

 

And Scroll is inconsistent, so no.

And a good player wouldn't want to tribute for Sirroco unless they were desperate. saving cards for later is good. If they really needed to tribute it, they'd be better off to use Jester Confit =/[hr']

Seems a little lackluster' date=' since I don't know any Winged-Beast-Type Decks that Special Summon without this missing timing and actually need tributes. BW don't tributes, Dragunity miss timing with this if they SS a Winged-Beast.

 

Yeah, nice idea, but doesn't actually work anywhere =/

DNA Surgery is too inconsistent to use with this.

[/quote']

 

I'm not sure, and please don't be too harsh when this is wrong, but i think a "If" phrase never misses the timing.

 

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Missing_the_Timing

 

Not sure, but it doesn't change that it isn't very runnable.

 

Would it be good in the Side Deck?

 

Not at all. Trap Hole is the current side against BW iirc, and I'd rather side Battle Fader/Waboku/T-Roar to stop OTKs and LV to clear the field - heck, I'd add Radiant Mirror Force to my side before this =/

 

And of course, Starlight against Icarus.

[Guest Zeonark]

Thats right. I just killed your Deck. D:<

 

And you were saying Special Summon this with Blizzard:

[img*]http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090512231550/yugioh/images/2/2c/Blackwing-BlizzardtheFarNorthRGBT-EN-R-1E.jpg[/img] Notice where it says:

"Level 4 or lower Blackwing monster from your Graveyard."

Exactly. This also stops it from being used in a Zombie Deck for the opponent to get their hands on with Zombie World. This card can drive them MAD. They can chase it but never get it. :D

 

You also said about Gale.

...*thinks of how it stops it*

I sware I had put in a thing where it stops BWs effects for a cost. o_O

 

I never said SS this with Blizzard. All I said was use it's effect. >_>

[-DOOM]

Dragunity is a huge archtype that is getting their own Structure Deck.

That's the sort of thing you REALLY need to know when making cards' date=' they're a fairly competitive Dragon/Winged-Beast Archtype that might get somewhere in the meta with the support from the SD they're getting.

 

And Scroll is inconsistent, so no.

And a good player wouldn't want to tribute for Sirroco unless they were desperate. saving cards for later is good. If they really needed to tribute it, they'd be better off to use Jester Confit =/[hr']

Seems a little lackluster' date=' since I don't know any Winged-Beast-Type Decks that Special Summon without this missing timing and actually need tributes. BW don't tributes, Dragunity miss timing with this if they SS a Winged-Beast.

 

Yeah, nice idea, but doesn't actually work anywhere =/

DNA Surgery is too inconsistent to use with this.

[/quote']

 

I'm not sure, and please don't be too harsh when this is wrong, but i think a "If" phrase never misses the timing.

 

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Missing_the_Timing

 

Not sure, but it doesn't change that it isn't very runnable.

 

Would it be good in the Side Deck?

 

Not at all. Trap Hole is the current side against BW iirc, and I'd rather side Battle Fader/Waboku/T-Roar to stop OTKs and LV to clear the field - heck, I'd add Radiant Mirror Force to my side before this =/

 

And of course, Starlight against Icarus.

 

kk, Trap Hole is really better.

 

But still, i think it can have it uses in Monarchs

[ragnarok1945]

it's Winged Beast, not Winged-Beast for the type

 

shame that when you raise its level you don't raise its attack.

 

I find it useful only for set ups for synchros, but I'll give it 7.9/10

[~Oleon~]

Kay. Thanks for your comments - and Griffin for your negative spam.

Anyways, I'm gonna add a new one soon.

[-DOOM]

Kay. Thanks for your comments - and Griffin for your negative spam.

Anyways' date=' I'm gonna add a new one soon.

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If you don't like conversations of raters in your Threads, i'll stop it next time ;] Sorry mate!

[~Oleon~]

No, I don't mind it - just when it gets negative and flame-ish I start to.

And - I have to keep milking this - Icy spamming - I am uncertain that some Mods do spam themselves a fair few times.

 

Anyways, I am adding Guanta Trilifad now. ;]

[-Griffin]

Can you tell me how you considered my posts spam? I first discussed where you can use the effect - without that, you can't even really tell what it does. I then discussed where you can use it, and pointed out that it isn't a good option against Blackwings because there are better side options, and that's it's too slow in BW. That leaves no real Deck for it to work in which makes it UP'd. All I did was look at how usable or balanced it was, is that really spam? =/

 

The new one is interesting, unfortunately I feel it's outclassed by Dragon Ice for all facts except that it's DARK Winged-Beast, which is a more situational point. Still, it could be entirely viable in some builds since it's less tied down to type/archtype, so this is a better card IMO.

[~Oleon~]

I know - I slowly made the better one. ;D

 

Sorry - I am just new to the new rules and they are confusingly strict and soft-going at the same time.

 

Thanks for your rates, anyways.