Community Custom YVD Project <Planning Thread>

[-Griffin]

I find a CCG with no/minimal dueling pointless. You only post a card, get a 'yes/no', then see it on a list. For all it's worth, you might as well just post it in Realistic as a separate thread and have some 'Best of Realistic' thread that just lists nice cards. The point of a Custom Format, in my eyes, is to play a Custom Format, not to just sit and stare at it like some old darts trophy collecting dust.

[Morgan LeFlay]

That's true, but it's not necessary for everyone who contributes to duel.

 

I only personally have 2 days off per week. I'm also now working on YVD X. Plus I have other things that I want to do, and am still in the XCG another project that I don't have time to duel for.

 

To expand on how the XCG does things, they have a limit on how many cards they can submit (also limiting certain other factors) but there is no 'yes' or 'no' really. The only cards not accepted are those deemed unrectifianly broken from the start, and then the creators can change them again before set is finalized

[-Griffin]

If you can't duel, you don't have to. I'm really looking for people who have the time to spend dueling and working on getting good sets. If you don't have that time, don't feel pressured to join the project because you worked on older versions. From the looks of it, you've already got your hands full enough without having to work on this too.

 

I want to be able to have enjoyable tournaments, and even slightly OP'd cards can push a Deck to get overplayed in a tourney, so I'm going to be reasonably tough on balance, and I don't want to accept useless cards. As my signature says, nothing should have useless parts.

[Morgan LeFlay]

If you can't duel, you don't have to. I'm really looking for people who have the time to spend dueling and working on getting good sets.

 

I don't mind submitting stuff when needed but I don't think that dueling should be an absolute requirement.

 

If you don't have that time, don't feel pressured to join the project because you worked on older versions. From the looks of it, you've already got your hands full enough without having to work on this too.

 

I wouldn't mind joining but there's always certain issues that I disagree with in these projects. In this case it's the forced duel to submit aspect and the fact that the person in charge may reject a card because it's too weak.

 

I want to be able to have enjoyable tournaments, and even slightly OP'd cards can push a Deck to get overplayed in a tourney, so I'm going to be reasonably tough on balance, and I don't want to accept useless cards. As my signature says, nothing should have useless parts.

 

Ok so I might play in an organized tournament but other than that probably not so much. To compete in the TCG if we are using TCG cards, new submissions have to be somewhat good to compete. Also not many cards out there are completely useless.

[-Griffin]

If you can't duel' date=' you don't have to. I'm really looking for people who have the time to spend dueling and working on getting good sets.[/quote']

 

I don't mind submitting stuff when needed but I don't think that dueling should be an absolute requirement.

 

I've tried before to run it with it being a soft-requirement, and people made every excuse to just post cards and hope everyone else would duel with them, only 3 people really dueled. I would love to be able to let people just submit whenever, but in practice that will mean nothing but submitting. It's "You must duel" or "We'll duel... later", and the second just never works out.

 

I want to be able to have enjoyable tournaments, and even slightly OP'd cards can push a Deck to get overplayed in a tourney, so I'm going to be reasonably tough on balance, and I don't want to accept useless cards. As my signature says, nothing should have useless parts.

 

Ok so I might play in an organized tournament but other than that probably not so much. To compete in the TCG if we are using TCG cards, new submissions have to be somewhat good to compete. Also not many cards out there are completely useless.

 

Well, I think we'll only be taking a select number of cards from the TCG. And I know not 'many' cards are completely useless, but I want cards to be at least runnable. If someone makes "x" support, but Deck "x" has a better option or would just never find space, then I'd rather avoid the clutter. I won't say, "if it doesn't make the Deck tier 0, it's not allowed", but usable is a must.

 

Here's a first draft of the list of cards I'd like to take to the CCG, feel free to comment/remove/add:

 

[spoiler=Rather long list]

Armory Arm

Junk Warrior

Magical Android

Gaia Knight

Black Rose Dragon

Urbellum

Colossal Fighter

Mist Wurm

 

Light and Darkness Dragon

Beast King Barbaros

Prime Material Dragon

Dragon Ice

The Tricky

Kuraz the Light Monarch

Anteatereatingant

Archfiend of Gilder

Mist Archfiend

Tragoedia

Tualatin

Dark Dust Spirit

Destiny Hero - Plasma

Lava Golemn

Fabeled Soulkius

Spawn Alligator

Power Invader

 

All 1500 ATK attribute searchers

The Immortal Bushi

Krebons

Cyber Phoenix

Summoner Monk

Drill Synchron

Amazoness Chain Master

Card Guard

Breaker the Magical Warrior

Sangan

Hyper Hammerhead

Hydrogeddon

The Calculator

Dimensional Alchemist

Card Trooper

Rigorous Reaver

Ryko

Blizzard Dragon

Chiron the Mage

D.D. Survivor

Kycoo the Ghost Destroyer

Summoner Monk

Necro Gardna

Battle Fader

Bazoo the Soul Eater

Grave Squirmer

D.D. Assailant

Doomcaliber Knight

Phantom Skyblaster

Wall of Illusion

Dandylion

Deep Diver

Copycat

Cyber Valley

Junk Synchron

Newdoria

Mist Valley Falcon

Ally of Justice Cyclone Creator

Drillroid

Dark Resonator

Level Eater

Max Warrior

Zero Gardna

Shiny Black "C"

Asura Priest

Field-Commander Rahz

Strike Ninja

 

Book of Life

Reinforcement of the Army

Axe of Dispair

Big Bang Shot

Solidarity

Book of Moon

Shrink

Enemy Controller

Scapegoat

Burden of the Mighty

Hand Destruction

Gold Sarcophagus

Mind Control

Rush Recklessly

Mystic Box

Trade-In

A Legendary Ocean

Mystical Space Typhoon

Soul Exchange

Future Visons

Heavy Storm

Lightning Vortex

 

Torrential Tribute

Mirror Force

Solemn Judgment

Skill Drain

Trap Hole

Dust Tornado

Security Orb

Treacherous Trap Hole

Anti-Spell Fragrance

Zoma the Spirit

Dimensional Prison

Kunai with Chain

Compulsory Evacuation Device

Metalmorph

Black Horn of Heaven

Widespread Dud

Fiendish Chain

Skill Successor

 

 

 

Again, feel free to call me stupid for some choices - or for forgetting some, but those are a good selection of cards in my mind (probably not enough there though)

[Morgan LeFlay]

I probably won't comment on your card choices...just seems like random pickings or something, I dunno..

 

Anyway I think there should still be a small minimum like 5 cards or something for those that didn't duel.

[-Griffin]

That could work, although 3/4 is more likely.

[-DOOM]

Here's a first draft of the list of cards I'd like to take to the CCG' date=' feel free to comment/remove/add:

 

[spoiler=Rather long list']

Armory Arm

Junk Warrior

Magical Android

Gaia Knight

Black Rose Dragon

Urbellum

Colossal Fighter

Mist Wurm

 

Light and Darkness Dragon

Beast King Barbaros

Prime Material Dragon

Dragon Ice

The Tricky

Kuraz the Light Monarch

Anteatereatingant

Archfiend of Gilder

Mist Archfiend

Tragoedia

Tualatin

Dark Dust Spirit

Destiny Hero - Plasma

Lava Golemn

Fabeled Soulkius

Spawn Alligator

Power Invader

 

All 1500 ATK attribute searchers

The Immortal Bushi

Krebons

Cyber Phoenix

Summoner Monk

Drill Synchron

Amazoness Chain Master

Card Guard

Breaker the Magical Warrior

Sangan

Hyper Hammerhead

Hydrogeddon

The Calculator

Dimensional Alchemist

Card Trooper

Rigorous Reaver

Ryko

Blizzard Dragon

Chiron the Mage

D.D. Survivor

Kycoo the Ghost Destroyer

Summoner Monk

Necro Gardna

Battle Fader

Bazoo the Soul Eater

Grave Squirmer

D.D. Assailant

Doomcaliber Knight

Phantom Skyblaster

Wall of Illusion

Dandylion

Deep Diver

Copycat

Cyber Valley

Junk Synchron

Newdoria

Mist Valley Falcon

Ally of Justice Cyclone Creator

Drillroid

Dark Resonator

Level Eater

Max Warrior

Zero Gardna

Shiny Black "C"

Asura Priest

Field-Commander Rahz

Strike Ninja

 

Book of Life

Reinforcement of the Army

Axe of Dispair

Big Bang Shot

Solidarity

Book of Moon

Shrink

Enemy Controller

Scapegoat

Burden of the Mighty

Hand Destruction

Gold Sarcophagus

Mind Control

Rush Recklessly

Mystic Box

Trade-In

A Legendary Ocean

Mystical Space Typhoon

Soul Exchange

Future Visons

Heavy Storm

Lightning Vortex

 

Torrential Tribute

Mirror Force

Solemn Judgment

Skill Drain

Trap Hole

Dust Tornado

Security Orb

Treacherous Trap Hole

Anti-Spell Fragrance

Zoma the Spirit

Dimensional Prison

Kunai with Chain

Compulsory Evacuation Device

Metalmorph

Black Horn of Heaven

Widespread Dud

Fiendish Chain

Skill Successor

 

 

 

Again, feel free to call me stupid for some choices - or for forgetting some, but those are a good selection of cards in my mind (probably not enough there though)

 

*shock*

Is this the dimension in which TCG cards will be added to the CCG?

Absolutely no themed Decks? =O

[-Griffin]

Of course there can be themed Decks, but people will have to submit them. There's simply no TCG themed Decks.

 

Thought of any list changes? The s/t section is a bit barren.

 

Shallow Grave? Dark Core? Dragged Down into the Grave? Machina Fortress? Sacred Phoenix of Nephys? Divine Sword - Phoenix Blade? Escape from the Dark Dimension? Reverse Trap? Robbin' Goblin? Good Goblin Housekeeping?

[Morgan LeFlay]

I guess it's certainly an interesting idea to just pick and choose. It's a certain medium between using no cards from the TCG (like the old YCCG and XCG) and a project that uses all TCG cards and follows the TCG banlist except editted for the cards they add to it (like the ICCG on xerocreative)

 

Personally if there are no themes in the beginning duels are gonna be boring and people might not wanna play with a limited card pool. You have already seen that happen in the first project. Another barrier is that no one ever goes on the IRC so we won't really connect to duel except by tournaments.

[-Griffin]

MSN is a good way to connect, as are simply chatrooms like Chatzy or whatever (while less advanced than IRC, more user-friendly).

 

No themes might not seem fun, I admit, but that's why I think I'll allow the 4 cards to be submitted before dueling, plenty for a theme. (And about half of these were taken from a highlander Deck I run. These Yusei-styled Decks are fun in my eyes. Just because themes aren't spelled out in the names like archtypes doesn't mean you can't make a Deck from these.)

[Morgan LeFlay]

Are we going to allow cards exclusive to the yugioh anime, or yugioh video game cards? What about pop culture cards?

[-DOOM]

Of course there can be themed Decks' date=' but people will have to submit them. There's simply no [i']TCG[/i] themed Decks.

 

Thought of any list changes? The s/t section is a bit barren.

 

Shallow Grave? Dark Core? Dragged Down into the Grave? Machina Fortress? Sacred Phoenix of Nephys? Divine Sword - Phoenix Blade? Escape from the Dark Dimension? Reverse Trap? Robbin' Goblin? Good Goblin Housekeeping?

 

In general, some staples for TCG themed decks. What about Gigaplant and such? Or Psychics? I think we can add a base of each theme, but you shouldn't be able to build a Deck only out of them.

[-Griffin]

No Pop Culture. People can submit cards from the TCG/OCG/Anime/Games and they'll be accepted under the same criteria as any other card would be.

[Morgan LeFlay]

okay and i'm hoping you aren't going to require images..?

[-Griffin]

Of course there can be themed Decks' date=' but people will have to submit them. There's simply no [i']TCG[/i] themed Decks.

 

Thought of any list changes? The s/t section is a bit barren.

 

Shallow Grave? Dark Core? Dragged Down into the Grave? Machina Fortress? Sacred Phoenix of Nephys? Divine Sword - Phoenix Blade? Escape from the Dark Dimension? Reverse Trap? Robbin' Goblin? Good Goblin Housekeeping?

 

In general, some staples for TCG themed decks. What about Gigaplant and such? Or Psychics? I think we can add a base of each theme, but you shouldn't be able to build a Deck out of them.

 

Did you bold Fortress because it's the only one you wanted, or the one you wanted most? Gigaplant could be viable, nothing worth really adding for Psychics though, IMO.

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No images required. Optional, though.

[-DOOM]

Of course there can be themed Decks' date=' but people will have to submit them. There's simply no [i']TCG[/i] themed Decks.

 

Thought of any list changes? The s/t section is a bit barren.

 

Shallow Grave? Dark Core? Dragged Down into the Grave? Machina Fortress? Sacred Phoenix of Nephys? Divine Sword - Phoenix Blade? Escape from the Dark Dimension? Reverse Trap? Robbin' Goblin? Good Goblin Housekeeping?

 

In general, some staples for TCG themed decks. What about Gigaplant and such? Or Psychics? I think we can add a base of each theme, but you shouldn't be able to build a Deck out of them.

 

Did you bold Fortress because it's the only one you wanted, or the one you wanted most? Gigaplant could be viable, nothing worth really adding for Psychics though, IMO.

The one i wanted the most. ^^

 

I meant all types in general. We should add a base of cards for all types/ themes. Like Gigaplant and a few others for Plants, REDMD for Dragons etc. Do you know what i mean?

[Morgan LeFlay]

Also, I don't really have MSN..we should def come up with a centralized meeting place for everyone

[-Griffin]

Of course there can be themed Decks' date=' but people will have to submit them. There's simply no [i']TCG[/i] themed Decks.

 

Thought of any list changes? The s/t section is a bit barren.

 

Shallow Grave? Dark Core? Dragged Down into the Grave? Machina Fortress? Sacred Phoenix of Nephys? Divine Sword - Phoenix Blade? Escape from the Dark Dimension? Reverse Trap? Robbin' Goblin? Good Goblin Housekeeping?

 

In general, some staples for TCG themed decks. What about Gigaplant and such? Or Psychics? I think we can add a base of each theme, but you shouldn't be able to build a Deck out of them.

 

Did you bold Fortress because it's the only one you wanted, or the one you wanted most? Gigaplant could be viable, nothing worth really adding for Psychics though, IMO.

The one i wanted the most. ^^

 

I meant all types in general. We should add a base of cards for all types/ themes. Like Gigaplant and a few others for Plants, REDMD for Dragons etc. Do you know what i mean?

 

Yes, and I agree, it's why Book of Life and RotA are on the list. Although I think Mark of Rose or Lonefire rather than Gigaplant.

[Morgan LeFlay]

How many people are you looking for to help run this? I could probably help get some tournaments going down the line.

[-Griffin]

As many people as are willing to help. There's no problem with everyone being a leader if they're all trusted.

 

Also; http://irc.stelivo.com:8000/?room=YCCG

Password is YCCG. Please continue convo there.

[Morgan LeFlay]

Would I be talking to myself?

[Morgan LeFlay]

I'm having trouble getting reconnected to the chatspace, it just lags there and doesn't load

[-Griffin]

Odd, working perfectly for the rest of us. Do you know any other chat app that would be better?

 

The TCG cards we will use are as follows:

http://pastebin.com/we9pQRqG

 

Rules Draft:

http://pastebin.com/HgYt6nzL

[Guest JoshIcy]

Bumping.