Monztor Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 This face-up card's name is treated as "Des Frog". You can remove from play 1 "Frog" monster in your Graveyard, except "Frog the Jam", to Special Summon this card from your Graveyard. This card cannot be used as a Synchro Material Monster. Mass Driver moar? Will this guy help Frog's reach sage mode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Nin-Ken_Dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Rrey Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 Will this guy help Frog's reach sage mode? Yes it will, it makes Substitoad ubberly powerfull!! He is the one who reaches the sage mode!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monztor Posted April 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Nin-Ken_DogWow. How did I miss this? GG Naruto. GG. Well, this guy certainly helps fuel two different OTKs: D3S Frog OTK and also Mass Driver. And works so amazingly well with swap and substitoad..... I like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 I keep on making people rage when I consistently FTK them with Frogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanAtlus Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 Sweet.A wall for the Sneak.I'll go for Deckout again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 Sweet.A wall for the Sneak.I'll go for Deckout again. LOLWUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Unclean One: VK Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 What's the FTK? This guy is gonna make Frogs go up a tier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysty Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 What's the FTK? This guy is gonna make Frogs go up a tier. 1. Have this, Substitoad, and Mass Cannon in play.2. Use Sub.'s effect to tribute Ronin and get another Frog.3. Tribute frog for Cannon.4. Resurrect Ronin by removing frog.5. Repeat steps 2-5 until your opponent's life is 0 (should take 16 frogs). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 What's the FTK? This guy is gonna make Frogs go up a tier. 1. Have this' date=' Substitoad, and Mass Cannon in play.2. Use Sub.'s effect to tribute Ronin and get another Frog.3. Tribute frog for Cannon.4. Resurrect Ronin by removing frog.5. Repeat steps 2-5 until your opponent's life is 0 (should take 16 frogs).[/quote']Edits: 1. Substitoad and any other monster are the actual requirements.5. It's 400 per Tribute, so roughly 20 Frogs are needed, give or take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbra Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 I was under the impression that the FTK was this + 141 + Mass Driver, but I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 1. Substitoad and any other monster are the actual requirements. How would you get this thing out in order to actually win, then? It's only treated as Des Frog on the field, so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysty Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 What's the FTK? This guy is gonna make Frogs go up a tier. 1. Have this' date=' Substitoad, and Mass Cannon in play.2. Use Sub.'s effect to tribute Ronin and get another Frog.3. Tribute frog for Cannon.4. Resurrect Ronin by removing frog.5. Repeat steps 2-5 until your opponent's life is 0 (should take 16 frogs).[/quote'] Edits:5. It's 400 per Tribute, so roughly 20 Frogs are needed, give or take. Oh wow, I thought it was 500. Must be Cannon Soldier that does 500. EDIT: yep, it is.Actually, only 19 frogs give or take are needed. Substitoad can be launched as well, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 1. Substitoad and any other monster are the actual requirements. How would you get this thing out in order to actually win' date=' then? It's only treated as Des Frog on the field, so...[/quote']Summon Swap Frog... What's the FTK? This guy is gonna make Frogs go up a tier. 1. Have this' date=' Substitoad, and Mass Cannon in play.2. Use Sub.'s effect to tribute Ronin and get another Frog.3. Tribute frog for Cannon.4. Resurrect Ronin by removing frog.5. Repeat steps 2-5 until your opponent's life is 0 (should take 16 frogs).[/quote'] Edits:5. It's 400 per Tribute, so roughly 20 Frogs are needed, give or take. Oh wow, I thought it was 500. Must be Cannon Soldier that does 500. EDIT: yep, it is.Actually, only 19 frogs give or take are needed. Substitoad can be launched as well, right?Yeah, I said give or take since I personally use 19(or 18, possibly) since I usually have a monster out when Mass Driver is played, and others going conservatively may use more. You may end up with an empty field, who knows how. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanAtlus Posted April 24, 2010 Report Share Posted April 24, 2010 OT: I think Jam Breeding Machine and Aqua Chorus were also Part of the OTK. >< Seriously guys, a "vague condition" that would require 20 Frogs in Grave is not consistent. The first person to mention Frogsworns will get flamed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted April 24, 2010 Report Share Posted April 24, 2010 OT: I think Jam Breeding Machine and Aqua Chorus were also Part of the OTK. >< Seriously guys' date=' a "vague condition" that would require 20 Frogs in Grave is not consistent. The first person to mention Frogsworns will get flamed.[/quote']Shut up until you actually know what Frogs can do. HINT: One of them can send every Frog in the deck to the Graeyard. Edit: Oh, you're the guy who thought this could be a wall at the Sneak. I shouldn't have bothered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakupenguin Posted April 24, 2010 Report Share Posted April 24, 2010 sage mode + frogs = crap. i dont know about support though... maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BehindTheMask Posted April 24, 2010 Report Share Posted April 24, 2010 OT: I think Jam Breeding Machine and Aqua Chorus were also Part of the OTK. >< Seriously guys' date=' a "vague condition" that would require 20 Frogs in Grave is not consistent. The first person to mention Frogsworns will get flamed.[/quote'] All you need is like, 3 cards to win. Substitoad tributes Ronin, to get a frog. Mass Driver Kills the frog and burns for 400. Ronin is revived. Repeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted April 24, 2010 Report Share Posted April 24, 2010 It's not just Ronin, you can Tribute anything to do the FTK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BulletMan Posted April 24, 2010 Report Share Posted April 24, 2010 I mean, I know the FTK and that it has plenty of draw cards, but it just doesn't seem it's going to be as big as predicted. You need at least 19 frogs of course. Then you need this in, what? 3s, or something, and of course, Substitoad. You're running a lot of monsters and draws. Not much else to counter the opponent all to much, since siding would be hard. And then we have DD Crow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monztor Posted April 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2010 True. But you don't nessesarily need to base the whole deck off the OTK. Its a great bonus. Start of as usual, lockdown with dupe's or substitoad. Beat down with Submarine and Uni. Clean up with mass driver and ronin if you get him later. DD Crow will see a lot more side use if they get more popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted April 24, 2010 Report Share Posted April 24, 2010 no des croaking otk? it seems like it would be a lot easier now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted April 24, 2010 Report Share Posted April 24, 2010 no des croaking otk? it seems like it would be a lot easier now.This FTK seems to be more efficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted April 24, 2010 Report Share Posted April 24, 2010 what esle do you run in this deck to make it work so fast? I mean, when you put every monster from your deck into the grave, you do kinda leave yourself open to retaliation.I mean, I discard hanewata at the 1200 mark. you deck has lost almost every monster, and shouldn't be able to finish the job now. would you just scoop then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted April 24, 2010 Report Share Posted April 24, 2010 Chances are you won't have a Hanewata 2 out of the 3 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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