Ultimate Skill Drain

[Ghoulish]

image credit to jazin kay.

The only place the effects cant be activated are ones that activate on the field, weird i know but if the effects arent activated on the field as well thenit would be to Opd... if im wrong plz tell me. comment and rate.

 

 

 

This card cannot be activated except by Tributing 1 "Skill Drain" you control and by paying 1000 Life Points. The effects of all Effect Monster Cards that activate either on a player's field, hand, Graveyard, Deck or removed from play area are negated. If the effect is activated in a player's hand, side of the field or Deck then destroy the card and send it to the Graveyard.

[MibeR]

the cards is destroyed

[Ghoulish]

???

[ARandomCardMaker]

Name: 7/10

Stars: N/A

Effect: 2/10 Way to overpowered.

Attribute: 3/10 Again, to overpowered. You would be playing a vanilla game,

Type: N/A

ATK: N/A

DEF: N/A

Pic: 7/10

OCG: 6/10 "Deck or removed from play are negated and destroyed." Doesnt make sense.

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TOTAL: 5/10

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5/10 It's really, not that good.

[Ghoulish]

"Deck or removed from play are negated and destroyed." Doesnt make sense.

first of all that isnt what i wrote. 2nd of all re word it

[LourDeath]

this card make sense for cards that

 

1. activates when destroyed

2. activates when sent to graveyard

3. activates when removed

 

and such ^.^

[Ghoulish]

yea its basically the opposite of skill drain, and @ cardmaker it doesnt have an attribute lol

[ARandomCardMaker]

"Deck or removed from play are negated and destroyed." Doesnt make sense.

first of all that isnt what i wrote. 2nd of all re word it

 

It's redundant to say "Cards removed from play" because, well, they are already removed from play, so you can't activate their effect anyway.

[Ghoulish]

so u havent heard of DD Survivor before? if so ud knopw that during the end pohase if he was removed from play he ccan be special summoned, same for scout plane....

[usetheforcehan]

'The effects of all Effect Monster Cards that activate either in a player's hand' date=' Graveyard, Deck or removed from play area [b']are negated and the cards destroyed.'[/b]

 

Errr... but you are already negated that effect with this card, you don't have to destroyed it.

 

Example:

1. Monster Card's effect is activated from hand ► 'Ultimate Skill Drain' negate that effect and destroy it ► Discard that Monster Card from hand to the Graveyard. (OK!)

2. Monster Card's effect is activated from the field ► 'Ultimate Skill Drain' negate that effect and destroy it ► Send that Monster Card from the field to the Graveyard. (OK!)

3. Monster Card's effect is activated from Graveyard ► 'Ultimate Skill Drain' negate that effect and destroy it ► Send that Monster Card from the Graveyard to the Graveyard. (WTF?)

4. Monster Card's effect is activated from removed from play Zone ► 'Ultimate Skill Drain' negate that effect and destroy it ► Send that Monster Card from the removed from play Zone to the Graveyard. (WTF?)

 

See? The Graveyard and removed from play location will put an unusual logic. Especially point no. 3 (from the Graveyard to the Graveyard). It would be better if you just put the negated part and delete the destroy part. ;)

[Ghoulish]

thats tru but then agin cards can be removed from th field withou bing destroyed, so in a way they stll can be destroyed, but nah i see what u mean and yea ill chage it btw it doesnt negate effects on the field do u think i should add it?

[Ghoulish]

thats tru but then agin cards can be removed from th field withou bing destroyed, so in a way they stll can be destroyed, but nah i see what u mean and yea ill chage it btw it doesnt negate effects on the field do u think i should add it?

[Morgan LeFlay]

I'll use your own rating system to rate this :P

 

ORIGINALITY = 2/3

PICTURE = 1/1

NAME = 0/1

OCG = 1/3

OVERALL IDEA = 1/2

 

Total 5/10

 

Okay, so it's a decent concept. I don't like the name "Ultimate Skill Drain", it seems unoriginal and unfitting. I do like the picture. It seems a bit underpowered, and I think that it should negate effects that activate on the field as well. Also, your card doesn't negate continuous monster effects by the current wording either, and I don't like the wording you used to get rid of Skill Drain. You don't really Tribute Trap Cards, but sending it to the Graveyard as a cost would be pwned by Macro. I'd go with the cost of destroying Skill Drain, and although no TCG cards do this, it works in this case. Like others have said, the card shouldn't be destroyed.

 

With the above changes and corrected OCG:

Activate by destroying 1 "Skill Drain" you control and paying 1000 Life Points. The effects of all Effect Monster Cards are negated.

[Ghoulish]

yea but if reworded like that would it still appl to cards in the hand deck grave and remove from play area? Also i was thinking about making the name "Ultinate Defect Zone" better or worse?

[Ghoulish]

yea but if reworded like that would it still appl to cards in the hand deck grave and remove from play area? Also i was thinking about making the name "Ultinate Defect Zone" better or worse?

[Morgan LeFlay]

Yes it would, because it doesn't specify face-up Monster Cards.

[usetheforcehan]

The name is great (according to me), don't change it. Because this card is actually a subtype of 'Skill Drain' (much like a 'Bottomless Trap Hole', a subtype of 'Trap Hole') and has deeply connection with 'Skill Drain'.

 

About the field' effect, yes. I believe this card should able to negate effect on the field too (hey! It's THE ULTIMATE Skill Drain right?).

 

There are also some common term that has been misinterpretation in Yugioh TCG. I will tell you the one i know:

1. Tribute: Applied ONLY to Monster Cards on the field. Usually to Summon high level Monster Cards.

2. Destroyed: Applied ONLY to Monster Cards on the field that has been destroyed in battle.

3. Removed from the field: Applied to ALL Cards on the field that has been destroyed by Card's Effect (not by battle).

4. Discard: Applied ONLY to Cards at hand. From hand straight to the Graveyard.

5. Send: Applied ONLY for hand to Deck, Deck to hand, Deck to Graveyard, Graveyard to hand.

6. Removed from play: Applied to ALL Cards in hand, Deck, field, and Graveyard that has been removed from play by Card Effects.

[Ghoulish]

kk ill change the ocg keep the name add the feild effect thx heaps for the comments

[LourDeath]

"Deck or removed from play are negated and destroyed." Doesnt make sense.

first of all that isnt what i wrote. 2nd of all re word it

 

It's redundant to say "Cards removed from play" because' date=' well, they are already removed from play, so you can't activate their effect anyway.

[/quote']

 

dont joke

 

D.D. Surivor activates when removed ^.^

gosh sir

[Parion555]

Seeing how no one fixed the OCG nicely i'll do it:

 

This card cannot be activated except by Destroying 1 "Skill Drain" you control and by paying 1000 Life Points. The effects of all monsters that activate either on a player's field, hand, Graveyard, Deck or removed from play area are negatedthat are removed from play are negated. If the an effect is activated in a player's hand, side of the field or Deck then destroy the card and send it to the Graveyard.

 

Overall everything seems fine except 1000 is not a big enough cost for such a Powerful effect.I say change it to at least to 2000.6/10.

[pipipa]

The name is great (according to me)' date=' don't change it. Because this card is actually a subtype of 'Skill Drain' (much like a 'Bottomless Trap Hole', a subtype of 'Trap Hole') and has deeply connection with 'Skill Drain'.

 

About the field' effect, yes. I believe this card should able to negate effect on the field too (hey! It's THE ULTIMATE Skill Drain right?).

 

There are also some common term that has been misinterpretation in Yugioh TCG. I will tell you the one i know:

1. [i']Tribute:[/i] Applied ONLY to Monster Cards on the field. Usually to Summon high level Monster Cards. Correct

2. Destroyed: Applied ONLY to Monster Cards on the field that has been destroyed in battle. Incorrect, this could mean Spell or Trap cards aswell that are destroyed by card effect (or in field Spell card case another one activated) and Monster cards can be destroyed by Card effects aswell, look at the commonly used Mirror force. It even states in the card text "Destroyed"

3. Removed from the field: Applied to ALL Cards on the field that has been destroyed by Card's Effect (not by battle). Incorrect, removed from the field can mean many things, however it's mainly when something is Sent or Destroyed, to go to graveyard or RFP. But can also mean back to the hand or deck, these are still considered removed from the field.

4. Discard: Applied ONLY to Cards at hand. From hand straight to the Graveyard. Semi-Correct, although, occassionally the term can mean from discard from Deck to Graveyard, for example Needle Worm.

5. Send: Applied ONLY for hand to Deck, Deck to hand, Deck to Graveyard, Graveyard to hand. Incorrect, aswell as those, they can also be applied from Hand to Graveyard (for example the cost of Prime Material Dragon) or SENT from the field to the graveyard, (for example Sangan)

6. Removed from play: Applied to ALL Cards in hand, Deck, field, and Graveyard that has been removed from play by Card Effects.

Correct

 

This may help a few people with the confusion surrounding what the Card Text says, these terms are different.

 

A perfect example would be to say, if I discard "Fabled Lurrie" to the graveyard by the effect of "Snipe Hunter", I could special summon "Fabled Lurrie". If I sent "Fabled Lurrie" from the hand to the graveyard via effect of "Hand Destruction", I could not summon it, since the "Fabled Lurrie's" Card effect's term used is "Discarded" not "Send from hand to graveyard".

 

As for Ultimate skill drain, I think the card, personally is perfect, the OCG needs a few tweaks, as stated before, you cannot tribute a Spell or Trap card that is currently in the Spell and Trap card zones, I'd change the cost to "Pay 1000 LP and send a face-up "Skill Drain" to your graveyard" or something like that. Overall I think the effect is really balanced, and to be honest, with the amount of Spell and trap Card removal these days, it's not like it'd stay on the field that long.

 

Also, if I were you maadd, I'd remove the part of the effect that says "card effect from deck" or something, because very few cards actually activate from the deck so it just wastes space, unless you're playing an opponent with the barely used Serpentine Princess.

 

Because this is the advanced version of Skill drain, I think it should say something like, "Negate the ACTIVATION of a monster card effect that activates in.." etc, instead of the effect. Also, there's no need to write "and Destroy it", these are monster cards not continuous spell or trap cards.

 

I really hope my short essay on this helped some people.

 

P.S Sometimes I find YGO terminology quite diverse, it took me ages to figure out the difference between the cost of a card and the effect of it lol.

[yigha]

This card cannot be activated except by Tributing 1 "Skill Drain" you control and by paying 1000 Life Points

-->This card cannot be activated except by sending 1 "Skill Drain" you control to the graveyard and pay 1000 Life Points.

[Ahmmed6]

????

[Ghoulish]

bump

[Wrathos]

There are some errors here.

The name is great (according to me)' date=' don't change it. Because this card is actually a subtype of 'Skill Drain' (much like a 'Bottomless Trap Hole', a subtype of 'Trap Hole') and has deeply connection with 'Skill Drain'.

 

About the field' effect, yes. I believe this card should able to negate effect on the field too (hey! It's THE ULTIMATE Skill Drain right?).

 

There are also some common term that has been misinterpretation in Yugioh TCG. I will tell you the one i know:

1. [i']Tribute:[/i] Applied ONLY to Monster Cards on the field. Usually to Summon high level Monster Cards.

2. Destroyed: Applied ONLY to Monster Cards on the field that has been destroyed in battle. Countless cards destroy other cards by effect. Also, cards can be destroyed in the deck as well, Chain Destruction for example.

3. Removed from the field: Applied to ALL Cards on the field that has been destroyed by Card's Effect (not by battle).

4. Discard: Applied ONLY to Cards at hand. From hand straight to the Graveyard. You can discard cards if Macro Cosmos is on the field, they are removed from play.

5. Send: Applied ONLY for hand to Deck, Deck to hand, Deck to Graveyard, Graveyard to hand. Dark End Dragon begs to differ, he isn't unique either.

6. Removed from play: Applied to ALL Cards in hand, Deck, field, and Graveyard that has been removed from play by Card Effects.

As you can see these terms have broader use than many think.