.-~ Demons rule all! New archetype... [6/29] ~-.

[Cloister]

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So here is my new archetype. Their names are composed of the word "Demon" followed by a number of letters. Some names are fusions of "Demon" and an already existing word. Their Attribute is DARK and they are all Fiend-Type monsters.

 

Here for the special part:

 

The monsters have ? as ATK and ? as DEF. But they are treated as the have NO ATK and DEF (not meaning 0) so they cannot gain or lose ATK and/or DEF and can therefore not be used to inflict damage based on their ATK/DEF. They cannot attack or be attacked which makes your opponent able to attack you directly and you could easily lose Life Points. They cannot be destroyed by battle but they can still have their effects negated and be destroyed by Spell and Trap Cards.

 

I have now made about 25 of them and I might make some more. I will post all of them so be sure you check this out once in a while if you like them to see the updates and the new cards.

 

LATEST CARDS:

 

This card is treated as it has no ATK and DEF. This card cannot be attacked. If you would take damage, you can activate 1 of the following effects: * Discard 1 card and halve the damage taken. * Add 1 Level 4 or lower DARK monster from your Deck to your hand. * Change 1 monster your opponent controls to Defense Position.

 

Your opponent cannot control monsters with 2000 ATK or more. Once per turn, if a monster would attack directly, you can negate that attack. If you control a face-up non-DARK monster, destroy this card.

 

Activate only when a DARK monster you control would be destroyed. Tribute 1 monster that is treated as it has no ATK and DEF to Special Summon the destroyed monster.

 

 

[spoiler=Monsters (4)]

 

This card is treated as it has no ATK and DEF. This card cannot be attacked. You can Tribute 1 face-up "Demonio" or "Demonie" to halve all damage you would take this turn.

 

This card is treated as it has no ATK and DEF. This card cannot be attacked. When this card is destroyed, add 1 each of "Demonia" and "Demonio" from your Deck to your hand and discard 1 of them.

 

This card is treated as it has no ATK and DEF. This card cannot be attacked. Each time your opponent Normal Summons a monster, you can add 1 Level 4 or lower DARK monster from your Deck to your hand.

 

This card is treated as it has no ATK and DEF. This card cannot be attacked. If you would take damage, you can activate 1 of the following effects: * Discard 1 card and halve the damage taken. * Add 1 Level 4 or lower DARK monster from your Deck to your hand. * Change 1 monster your opponent controls to Defense Position.

 

 

 

 

 

[spoiler=Spells (1)]

 

Your opponent cannot control monsters with 2000 ATK or more. Once per turn, if a monster would attack directly, you can negate that attack. If you control a face-up non-DARK monster, destroy this card.

 

 

 

 

 

[spoiler=Traps (1)]

 

Activate only when a DARK monster you control would be destroyed. Tribute 1 monster that is treated as it has no ATK and DEF to Special Summon the destroyed monster.

 

 

 

 

 

[spoiler=Update & Edit List]

Month/Date/Year - Card's name

 

Updates:

 

05/06/10 - Demonia

05/06/10 - Demonie

05/06/10 - Demonio

 

05/07/10 - Demondra

05/07/10 - Demon Shield

05/07/10 - Demon Rebirth

 

Edits:

 

 

 

NOTE: The cards are made in MSE (Magic Set Editor).

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[Lexadin]

Intersting cards and lolish names imo.

Pics are excelent.

OCG looks good, effect is ballanced becouse of the direct attack part.

A 9.2/10, hope to see some more.

[Ghoulish]

original thats for ure, ill need to see othershowever as to gain an understanding of the effectiveness of the set

[Cloister]

Thanks. I will add some cards tomorrow. And if you think they are unbalanced, please say.

[usetheforcehan]

Not to useful imo. A monster, no matter how weak it is, can be used to tank your opponent attack and stall their Duel progress. This 'Demon' archetype is nothing but an 'accessories' if you manage to Summon it on the field. You will be massacre by your opponent, especially the one with Rush Deck, Beat-down Deck or Swarm Deck because you have no defense whatsoever. You should make this cards have a Continuous Effect to balancing its drawback.

 

In short, its UP'd. But because it's an original effect, i'll gives you a higher score (because an original effect is YCM is a freakin' RARE).

 

8/10. ;)

[Cloister]

Thank you. I will see if I can balance them. These will also swarm a little bit. But I will still see if I can balance them. NOTE! I have made cards to stop your opponent from attacking etc.

[usetheforcehan]

I come up with 3 possibility to balance this Demon Archetype:

 

1. Make them have a Continuous Effect.

2. Create a Continuous Spell/Trap or Field Spell to support this Archetype (something like: 'The opponent's monster can't inflict damage to the player directly.' Because your opponent's monster cannot attack you directly AND cannot attack any 'Demon' monster you control, you're practically invincible!)

3. Support them with other 'Demon' monster.

 

I hope it help! :)

 

PS: One more thing, it would be better if you change the lore into: 'This card cannot be attacked. This card cannot gain ATK or DEF.' and change all 'Demon' monsters ATK and DEF to 0 (zero) instead of ?.

[Cloister]

I have Spell and Trap cards that support. Thank you for the suggestions. and bump.

[Slicer224]

Nice job on the cards, a cool original idea I give you an 8.5/10 because they are unbalanced. Good job though! :)

[Cloister]

I don't think they are unbalanced tbh. But I guess that's because these don't really explain much. I have other stronger cards waiting to be posted. New cards will come tonight!

[Cloister]

Bumping. Added 3 cards.

[pipipa]

How can something with no attack and defense be treated as something with no attack and defense. That's like eating an apple and afterwoods coming to the conclusion that "Eureka moment..! Apple tastes like Apple!". By the way, normally when a monster has ? ATK and/or ? DEF, there is a way to increase the ORIGINAL attack or the ORIGINAL defense of the card, normally by removing monsters in the graveyard. but there is no point in the ? ATK and ? DEF in demondra because it has no effect of its own that increases its ORIGINAL stats. You might as well just put 0 ATK and 0 DEF and rename ur support card accordly

[Cloister]

Lol. The cards CANNOT gain ATK. Not with Spell Cards. Not with Trap Cards. And not with Monster Cards. Impossible. So I could give them 9999 ATK. They would still have NO ATK and DEF.

 

But thanks I guess.

[usetheforcehan]

▼My previous suggestion about this whole 'no ATK and no DEF'-thing, in case you didn't notice▼

PS: One more thing' date=' it would be better if you change the lore into: 'This card cannot be attacked. This card [b']cannot gain[/b] ATK or DEF.' and change all 'Demon' monsters ATK and DEF to 0 (zero) instead of ?.

 

Just a suggestion though. It's all up to you. ;)

[Cloister]

I noticed. But I have explained that they cannot gain/lose ATK and DEF since they have none. I am just too lazy too fix it, but I totally understand what you mean and I agree. But since YOU know their effects that they have in common, I don't really see the problem. And the ? should be 0, would fit little better, but again, too lazy.

[Cloister]

For the greater good of god. Bump.

[longrod31394]

very nice idea and some unique names. The effects are extremely original which just adds to the awesomeness. If they released these cards i would totally run a deck with these :D

[Cloister]

Thank you. :)

[~Shin~]

"Your opponent cannot control monsters with 2000 ATK or more."

so if you use this while he control 1 what will happen ?

I do not like this set idea..

but still good cards so my current rate 6.5/10.

[Cloister]

Lol, it is destroyed. Didn't actually think about that. And thanks...... I guess.......

[Guest Cursed Reaction]

I think it's a unique concept and surprising no-one thought of it. None of them are OPed and they work brilliantly together. As always, brilliant.

[Cloister]

Thank you. I love that comment, you made my day C.R! <3

[Lexadin]

Nice new cards.

1 only have 1 comment: Demon Shield is totaly OP, you should do the same as you did with the Trap, make in only ussable with The "Demon" archtype, becouse it totaly abusable now.

 

A 9.5/10 (after fix)

[Cloister]

Well, I understand what you mean.

 

But you need to have ONLY non-DARK monsters. But I'll see how I can balance it.

 

Thanks for the comment.

[Darth Naxetor]

Right now, i cannot fathom a strategy to use these cards. However, if you were to add cards that depend on your opponent attacking you directly and causing deck destruction/ life points annihilation, i could see a great potential in this concept. I would suggest a trap that either deals damage or forcing your opponent to discard for the number of cards on the field and other cards that lock spells. Or maybe even a field spell that is specific for this deck that inflicts damage or deck destruction when a player attacks directly.

8.2/10