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Brushfire' date=' what is "trolling"?

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A post intended to create a negative reaction from the person being "trolled". Shame though, I was hoping you'd defend me after the stuff I've done for you, but apparently not.

 

37 does not dislike you at all' date=' and I'm not sure if you even have an opinion on it or not, but please, don't speculate on what the rest of its member base - the vast majority - think, say and do, when you don't use it and don't know. That's uncalled for.

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If your memberbase including it's admin wants to insult me and my friends, then I'll do so back. That's not uncalled for.

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WOAH WOAH WOAH GUYS' date=' CHILL OUT, I GOT THIS.

 

Here is pretty much a complete rebuttal to everything Sammy boy has said in this topic:

 

"lol"

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And it's turned out to be a lot better than what you've said, how ironic.

 

Actually, what's really hilarious is the fact that you can't be bothered to defend yourself against all of my quotes on this page, so you just say that instead to try and make yourself look good. So basically: you lose.

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This thread has shown to me everyone's true colours. Surprising, it is the one's deemed "trolls" (Dark, Eury, etc.) in the past that have stuck with me. And Josh too.

 

Nice one Ty, we got on before, we might not have spoke in a while but that was a total dick move.

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I'm confused. So what is what? I completely agree people like Brushfire, Dark, and Crab Helmet were definitely arrogant if need be. Yet, besides them and a rather small clique, they are all retards. Maybe that's why I only come to this site about once a week.

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~ P O L A R I S ~ Newbie

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Brushfire' date=' what is "trolling"?

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A post intended to create a negative reaction from the person being "trolled".

 

I know for a fact that you cannot calculate intent and therefore cannot prove intent. To accuse someone of "trolling" is always inaccurate. Same goes for accusing people of "intentional spamming".

 

Shame though' date=' I was hoping you'd defend me after the stuff I've done for you, but apparently not.[/quote']

 

I respect that you helped in the early parole of Atlas, but I'd rather believe that you'd done that because it was the obvious right thing to do than to have done it with my interests in mind.

 

I would rather have my opinions be influenced by an assessment of the scenario at hand than by biases based on how loyal I might feel towards you. I think you've done great things and have potential to do many more great things, but in this particular scenario I actually believe you're incorrect here.

 

I'd love to defend you if I felt the current situation warranted it, but as I recall, you struck first, throwing a whirlwind of accusations at members of 37. It's really just a place to escape from the constant political nightmares in YCM (as well as how it tends to get stagnant and boring after a while, but that's not relevent here).

 

There's an arcade, Reece's made apparent efforts to act more kindly and more relaxed to fit his role as admin at 37, and it really just seems like a legit, friendly board.

 

As I recall, you opened fire on 37 before it opened fire on you. I don't see your arguments here against 37 as being particularly warranted, and so in this particular situation I'm just going to tell you to chill and find something worth ranting about to rant about. I'm not going to barrage you in the insults you've gotten from Ben, which you really should've expected by the way considering that you did strike first.

 

Basically, just calm down, let 37 be, go about your own business.

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No need to prove intent when he's admitted it, Polar.

 

You'd be right of course, I did it because I felt it was right to do so and I knew that despite claiming otherwise, Atlas DID like being active in the TCG section here.

 

Your scenario is completely incorrect from the start, as I did not strike first. Ben struck at me first. So perhaps you should've thought that through and saw that Ben attacked me (though the thread itself was directed at Josh, he decided to attack me in it anyway) beforehand, all I did was defend my friend and got attacked for it. I won't be seen as the enemy here, even if Frunk "proved" it in his PM's.

 

However, since talking to Frunk I've found that 37 is in no way responsible for Ben's actions, and it does seem like a nice forum. However, me personally not getting on with either Ben nor Frunk I won't be active on it.

 

Why should I calm down? I wake up to find a thread named "A Public Smackdown on Faint Brushfire"- a thread completely devoted to insulting me and apparently I need to calm down because I'm the one in the wrong? Yeah right.

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EXCUSE ME I SAID NO SUCH THING SERIOUSLY

 

I think I'm mainly a General guy now' date=' anyways. :S

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Oh come on, those 48575 double accounts all but said that you didn't care about YCM lol.

I don't think trolling with alts really showed much care for the forum, and a lot of the wannabe's alts got pinned on me when in actuality only the successful ones like Coolio and Waluigi were actually mine.

 

Haven't seen you around much. ._.

also theres this too

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Let me draw this out for you then.

 

[spoiler=Initial Conversation]

Ben says (12:06 AM):

The Heart Sutra is a text that has a lot of Buddhist philosophies in it.

 

PERSON says (12:07 AM):

And that'll work

I'll remember to memorize it later

 

Ben says (12:07 AM):

But basically the Sutra outlies was is basic Buddhist believes. It teachs that we shouldn't have connections to other things, because it causes delusions

 

PERSON says (12:07 AM):

No. The delusion is claiming that connecting to another causes something that isn't there.

 

Ben says (12:08 AM):

Well, not delusions as like, Crazy Schiztophrenia(spelling)

but Delusions as to how the world is actually

 

PERSON says (12:08 AM):

I am fully aware of what you mean

PERSON says (12:09 AM):

Would you say that Happiness is a delusion?

Based on those teachings?

 

Ben says (12:09 AM):

Yeah

 

PERSON says (12:09 AM):

Then you are the one with the delusion.

As I told my friend

 

Ben says (12:09 AM):

Emotions are attachments to a certain way of thinking

 

PERSON (12:09 AM):

"Everyone believes in Love, it is merely what you call it that changes."

 

Ben says (12:10 AM):

you should read the Fundamental Wisdom of the Middle Way, by Jay L. Garfield.

 

PERSON says (12:10 AM):

Including Buddhists who have claime to "Detach themselves from Material Possessions and Emotions".

 

PERSON says (12:11 AM):

Those funkers do cherish and share and emotion with something.

Can you take a wild guess what the most basic one would be?

 

Ben says (12:11 AM):

It's not the detachment of themselves and Material Possessions and Emotions

 

PERSON says (12:11 AM):

And no... I will not read.

Because I treat each belief (including my own), as just that.

An individual belief.

 

Ben says (12:12 AM):

It's the idea that everything lacks identity/essence, and therefore, doesn't really exist

 

PERSON says (12:12 AM):

So therefore the teachings do not exist

And can be ignored.

I funking hate teachings like that

Its like a vague double standard

 

PERSON says (12:13 AM):

We all exist, therefore we are

 

Ben says (12:13 AM):

That is an incorrect believe though. I'd be bothered to correct you, but I don't wanna type up like, 7 pages of the book

 

PERSON says (12:13 AM):

I do not want the book

I want YOUR belief

 

Ben says (12:13 AM):

I don't believe we exist

Ben says (12:14 AM):

Like, I know I don't exist. Because I am constantly changing. What "Ben" is, is highly different from what "Ben" was 10 minutes ago

 

PERSON says (12:14 AM):

Then kindly kill yourself

Because if you dont exist

It wont matter

Humans are naturally emotional creatures. To ignore that is to ignore who we are.

 

Ben says (12:14 AM):

I should rephrase

 

PERSON says (12:15 AM):

You know

 

Ben says (12:15 AM):

"Ben" does not exist. The biological machine that "Ben" is composed of functions, but "Ben" can't really exist.

 

PERSON says (12:15 AM):

This same thing is why I hate religion etc

I DONT CARE ABOUT THAT

I CARE ABOUT YOUR BELIEF

YOUR BELIEF

Not some funking teaching

Not some lesson some hippie taught you

 

PERSON says (12:16 AM):

I want your belief

 

Ben says (12:16 AM):

That is what I believe though

 

PERSON says (12:16 AM):

And if you believe a doctrine word for word

You do not believe

Because it is not your words

Do you see what Im getting at?

 

Ben says (12:17 AM):

Yeah, but that is an ignorant way to look at things.

 

PERSON says (12:17 AM):

How so?

 

Ben says (12:17 AM):

Do you believe that 1 + 1 = 2?

 

PERSON says (12:17 AM):

It focuses on human individuality

Beliefs do not equal scientific proofs

 

Ben says (12:17 AM):

but, do you believe that 1 + 1 = 2?

 

PERSON says (12:18 AM):

Yes.

 

Ben says (12:18 AM):

Why do you believe that?

 

PERSON says (12:18 AM):

Because it is the name for a single object with another single object together

 

Ben says (12:19 AM):

Would you accept that 1 + 2 = 3?

 

PERSON says (12:19 AM):

Yes

Because we know that so much of a single object is called two.

So we place another single object in there and name it 3.

 

PERSON says (12:20 AM):

I am aware of what name placements are

 

Ben says (12:20 AM):

so, you use what has been proven to decide what you believe?

 

PERSON says (12:20 AM):

Proven by whom?

Myself or something else?

 

Ben says (12:20 AM):

By the laws of mathematics

 

PERSON says (12:20 AM):

I use the law of mathematics as a guide.

PERSON says (12:21 AM):

If you listened to what I said

You'd know that

In Kindergarten

You were taught that placing multiple single carrots together, can be seen as what we call two

However

It is JUST a name placement

 

Ben says (12:22 AM):

But, using the laws of something, to apply it to a set of situations, you come to conclusions.

 

PERSON says (12:22 AM):

Thank you for changing the topic

 

Ben says (12:22 AM):

That isn't different than a person accepting the Literal Wording of a belief system to decide that by taking the SAME exact wording to apply it to life

 

PERSON says (12:23 AM):

but preaching it word for word is not theirs

 

Ben says (12:23 AM):

What makes it so?

 

PERSON says (12:24 AM):

Because I am speaking to you

Not a book

Not some scroll

And not some teachings

Seriously?

If I was at a church

And a priest wanted to say something to me

 

PERSON says (12:25 AM):

And he pulled out a bible

 

Ben says (12:25 AM):

But, what if your understanding of the universe coincides perfectly with what is written in a book?

 

PERSON says (12:25 AM):

I'd knock that bible out of his hand, kick him to the ground and tell him "Now speak from your words, not what the book tells you"

 

PERSON says (12:26 AM):

And there we go

You just said it

 

Ben says (12:26 AM):

?

 

PERSON says (12:26 AM):

"what if your understanding"

Meaning it remains to the individual

 

PERSON says (12:27 AM):

Your words are your own. There is no correct in your mind, except what you have chosen to believe.

I got what I wanted out of you.

 

Ben says (12:27 AM):

but, if I choose to believe word for word everything in the Koran, that doesn't make them my believes according to you

 

PERSON says (12:27 AM):

As long as you dont speak to me directly from it

 

PERSON says (12:28 AM):

I have no reason to say you arent correct

From memory is fine

Because there is a forced emotional aspect

 

Ben says (12:28 AM):

so emotions = logic?

 

PERSON says (12:28 AM):

Humans are emotional creatures

Why cant we have Emotional Logic?

 

Ben says (12:29 AM):

Because by definition emotion cannot = logic

 

PERSON says (12:29 AM):

By yours haha

By Websters maybe

But humans cannot, not be Emotional

So thus, we must have Emotional Logic

 

PERSON says (12:30 AM):

Logic that has been diluted by who we are

But then again

By my own definition

 

Ben says (12:31 AM):

............I'm not gonna argue that, because you can just say "lol, i can change the meaning of any word, even though it doesn't refute your point"

 

PERSON says (12:31 AM):

Logic already IS

^:

I argue myself sometimes

To try and see if Im wrong

And I just did

Logic is inherently Emotional because it is a human requirement.

 

PERSON says (12:32 AM):

It is because of this, that I seperate it

Into "Absolute Logic"

Which I don't say to many people

Absolute Logic, can actually cause a Panic Attack with me xD

And it has

 

PERSON says (12:33 AM):

Lmao...

Knocked out 1 phrase

Thanks Ben

 

Ben says (12:33 AM):

...?

 

PERSON says (12:33 AM):

I've always had it like this

Emotion, Emotional Logic, Logic, Absolute Logic (Pure Greed)

But I dont need Emotional Logic anymore

 

PERSON says (12:34 AM):

Because by my own definition of it, all logic is naturally emotional.

 

Ben says (12:34 AM):

oh okay

 

PERSON says (12:34 AM):

So yeah...

I can't just say what you said

Im not so silly as to go against my own words to twist it into my favor.

 

PERSON says (12:35 AM):

You claimed I would

I actually have a set standard haha.

Its just so heavily "Your words come from your mouth and nowhere else".

 

PERSON says (12:36 AM):

I preach individuality to the extreme

 

Ben says (12:37 AM):

ah lulz

 

To sum up the gist of the above convo, Icy goes on a tirade of intolerance against Ben's religious beliefs, tells him to "kindly kill himself", etc.

 

Now obviously, Ben isn't going to appreciate this. This's why Ben goes on a counter-tirade. That one-liner against you was retaliatory to your support of Icy's argument against Ben's religious beliefs. Anyway, it's just retaliation because he was angered by the assault on his beliefs and everything included with it. Icy could've just accepted that Ben had different beliefs, but no, he had to stubbornly assert his own, he had to indulge his ego at Ben's expense. Icyblue struck first and you chose to back him up.

 

You with me here?

 

Also' date=' Brushfire = GIGANTIC BAD WORD THAT WOULD GET ME BANNED IF I SAID IT LOLOLOLOLOL

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I love you too.

 

Also, both Draco and Frunk are egocentric morons who are highly overrated. Oh yeah, and memes don't make you look cool at all, they make you look like a retard. Making a thread so obviously directed at someone isn't very intelligent either, mostly because the person who this is directed at would rip you apart anyway.

 

It's a real shame that 2sick would support this also.

 

Do you get that this's the wrong way to respond? Ben's merely promoting 37 in the same post as standing his spiritual ground. That doesn't mean you go on an all-out attack against 37. It wasn't enough for you to attack Ben, you had to attack everything Ben was trying to represent.

 

Yeah sure, Ben gave you more rage than communication of why he was enraged, but you're hardly any less at fault for not dropping the whole hate-fest of belief systems vs. belief-systems and instead picking it up where you left off.

 

Then Ben gave you more rage today, you had it coming for not dropping the religious battle. Just opt out while you still can, let's all chill down.

 

You see what I'm saying here?

 

Oh, and Legends Incarnate's still going strong btw, just thought I'd let you know.

 

I'm still confused' date=' and who's this atlas guy?

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Who's this "Raylen" guy? >_>

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I always preach that Harm unto oneself before Harm unto Another.

And here's the key part:

Ben says (12:14 AM):

Like, I know I don't exist. Because I am constantly changing. What "Ben" is, is highly different from what "Ben" was 10 minutes ago

 

PERSON says (12:14 AM):

Then kindly kill yourself

Because if you dont exist

It wont matter

Humans are naturally emotional creatures. To ignore that is to ignore who we are.

I explicitly state that purely as an exaggeration, not seriously. As evident by my words "Because if you don't exist, it won't matter".

 

I did that to provoke something (does that mean I "trolled" him?), as my whole point during that convo was that if you wanted to tell me something, say it from memory unless NEEDED (such as a Document for science etc). I like his beliefs and have praised it on more than one occasion.

 

The reason I ask for memory, is so that you word it naturally in how you believe it. Nothing more, nothing less. Surely, he could have copy+pasted the text and rewrote it in his own words (as one is taught in school). And that would have been done with.

 

I will admit fault for vast exaggerations. But I did not mean ill.

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Then Ben gave you more rage today' date=' you had it coming for not dropping the religious battle. Just opt out while you still can, let's all chill down.

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It is not my intention to continue any religious battle against Ben, I've been defending his claims against me, not anything he said to Icy. I didn't even know about the discussion beforehand, I simply believed that he decided to attack Icy for whatever reason, and I'd rather back my friend up than not do so.

 

Why should I opt out? I've done nothing but been insulted and will allow that to stand without defending myself. I don't wish to fight with you, though I know you have best interests in mind and you don't mean any ill intentions.

 

Oh' date=' and Legends Incarnate's still going strong btw, just thought I'd let you know.

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If you want me to come on, you can just ask.

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I always preach that Harm unto oneself before Harm unto Another.

 

So let's say there's you and a guy in the street. You have a knife. You have to stab either him or yourself in the stomach. With what you posted, you're saying you're going to stab yourself in the stomach instead of some guy you've never even met before in your life. Perfect logic.

Now if you just weren't being specific enough and you mean a family member or something, then I understand.

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Because YCM is serious business. I don't feel like taking sides here' date=' so all of you just shut up and go back into your holes. Thankies~

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[spoiler=It's not just YCM. It's the whole internetz.]

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